Think of the benifits of that Joe we would get exposure in f2p/get f2p war practice AND it would be less stress on fbi so either way both sides win.
 
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<+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour
<+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH

F2P = fighting PH and getting no kills or getting smashed by a clan with twice our opts. No thanks.
 
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July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011

F2P = fighting PH and getting no kills or getting smashed by a clan with twice our opts. No thanks.

Joe knows what he's talking about
 
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i get what your saying but seeing as all the raids that are planned these days are all p2p and most of our wars are f2p im sure it would help to have a specialized side for f2p raiding to help us practice what we need to win wars
 
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<+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour
<+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH

I have not seen a god damned free play raid in over 2-3 months and i feel that freeplay is vital to help us win so of the wars we fight and no one can argue that at all because it's true. and seeing as raid leader doesnt plan f2p raids and seeing as regular members get extremely fucking poor pulls this is quite possibly the bestoption.
 
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<+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour
<+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH

I have not seen a god damned free play raid in over 2-3 months and i feel that freeplay is vital to help us win so of the wars we fight and no one can argue that at all because it's true. and seeing as raid leader doesnt plan f2p raids and seeing as regular members get extremely fucking poor pulls this is quite possibly the bestoption.

our raid leaders dont host f2p stuff because nobody shows up to them + there is only like one active Raid Leader + they just host raids to make money anyway

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7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended.

I have not seen a god damned free play raid in over 2-3 months and i feel that freeplay is vital to help us win so of the wars we fight and no one can argue that at all because it's true. and seeing as raid leader doesnt plan f2p raids and seeing as regular members get extremely fucking poor pulls this is quite possibly the bestoption.

it's actually not true because it's a theorem.

as an investor. rule of thumb....
previous performance dosen't guarantee future performance thus it must be proven thru actions such as....

a public raid? a war. etc.

and we recently had an f2p raid except it was cancelled. why? god knows

i can tell you this much.

-WG has always Strived in P2p Matches
-the majority of members are P2P.
-Winning wars isn't dependent on where you are but experience and leadership.
raid leaders do plan f2p but it's not a priority because of the above facts. the pursuit of winning wars in itself dosen't suit the clan fundamental values but rather what i call, "self-sustenance."
-P2p is FUN, F2p is MEh
-Member pulls aren't dependent on F2p or P2p Status. that's dependent on Clan health and Activeness of it's members

let's see...and to go back to the fact that you have not seen a goddamned f2p raid. you've been given the option to host your own at will. (which you did)

before you try to prove a theorem to be true there has to be a principle behind it.

and besides, there is a raid leader and the fact remains wether you like his actions or not. thus one can only hope for the best as established systems will certainly provide changes overtime. meanwhile....keep up with the suggestions as the principle behind a suggestion is that the idea will get across and possibly become a truth. even if it does fail it's been tried.


just read dnovelta post. i have one small thought on it.

^this is a quote from "the enlightened one"

i truly think we should go back to basics 101. there are many reasons why the clan as a team isn't working now and it's due to the changes that have taken place. for example. recall the banishment policy changes that took place. eventually we all did circles around it until it came back to the same conclusion.

as for not doing anything, i think we've done plenty. i mean seriously, if you want a brief description from the moment i joined (i think it was around that time that the clan was struggling) until now...which i hope is rock bottom. look @ everything that has been done. what more do you want? if you want to keep making excuses as not pulling enough it certainly dosen't cut it. it only takes a minority to move a majority and it's the reason why the world rotates on it's axis.

minority-leadership
majority-members

rule of thumb. we're not the headless horsemen. we have leaders and members and a team. and it's obvious that members want to do something except that since most are watching (like myself) for personal reasons or obvious reasons. in a way, the way i see it, is that instead of focusing on other people commitment one has to search one's own commitment. my commitment to wg is simple,

thru good and bad
best or worse
i will be evil if i must
i will be loyal till i die

and according to that commitment it comes down to your current role, wether it's a guardian, higher, elite, ect. my current role as a guardian is listed below.

guardian duties

and after the current goal it comes down to what else i'm going to do...which i won't share with you until i actually mastered the idea to an extend.

and the last is the ascension. basicly you have a hill to climb so you better start climbing. start dreaming.

and i wrote too much. ROFL


 
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If ALL of WG thought F2P isn't fun then why is this thread here?

Let me remind you guys of our last F2P raid (Allied with TS)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU01J5xdzuc&fmt=22

And our wars? Crimson Raiders was F2P.

P2P is intense, full of adrenaline, fast-paced, and the risks and profits are huge. I like P2P. But I like F2P and solo in deep PvP a lot of the time. It's a more mellow and simpler environment, with decent profits. Some people like that better than being on the edge of your seat trying not to get 1-hit KOed by d claws or barraged to fuck all the time. And to be fair, I'm not in it for the money, I do it to have fun. I'm not sure about having a F2P-only raid leader but pushing F2P PvP completley out of the clan is not something I support.
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

This

@Keanu, instead of 2-3 people who interested in F2P, it's not a majority.
 
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the reason we haven't had any f2p raids it's because there literary isn't any raids established.

like stated before, stop making excuses and actually do something. you'll always have low pulls and high pulls, it's one of those variables that you cannot control.

but you can control consistency in hosting events. fun dosen't necesarily have to be a win but rather an adventure. i'm suprised as men that we are that we are willing to go the extra mile with a women and be persistent and consistent seek her attention. this is absolutely different since you don't have an emotional equity but either way. this is built by the raid leader who i am more Bold to say what he's doing currently dosen't cut it.

as for the last statement. pardon the sarcasm. if you can make more council members (we had like 4-5 in one time) then why not make more raid leaders (8-10). LOL!

^i know why, because it's inneficient and brings forth lazyness
 
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