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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:23 pmTop
   
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Quite a simple poll, really. What do you believe you like to do the most?
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:26 pmTop
   
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Matched ops.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:28 pmTop
   
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PKRIs are fun neko2.gif
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:32 pmTop
   
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Variety is nice, but i've always been a fan of the real deal - full-outs

But it is cool to have run-ins when the opts aren't matched because it shows off more of your organisation
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:34 pmTop
   
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Full outs.
PKRI are only good on p2p
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:35 pmTop
   


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I nulled.
I don't "prefer" one type over another - I like variety.

Matched Ops- I hate and love these at the same time. This is how you prove you're more skilled than another clan, but at the same time all it takes is one member to d/c or get KOed to mess it up. If we're going to have more of these, there should be LOTS of instruction for those who aren't too familiar with warring.

Full Out- Most times these rely on numbers rather than skill. WG has always been good at pulling higher than the other clan, but that's mainly because we war clans we know we can out-pull. These tend to be our best war types, but if we had a full out with tougher clans my opinion on this would change.

PKRI- Depends. CWA PKRIS depend on skill and PvP PKRIS depend on half skill/half bank. My favorite is the time-capped PvP PKRIs because it's mostly skill. We haven't had these in a long time and I feel our members are slowly becoming accustomed to CWA. More of these please.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 05:56 pmTop
   
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I like matched ops least due to people getting cut and pressure of getting koed / dcing
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 07:48 pmTop
   
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Matched opts practice and build core skills, and allow for the development of many strategies. This puts alot more emphasis on individual skills, though theres a ton of things a clever leader can do to push turn the tides.

Fullouts assess what you learn from matched opts, and gives a clan a better measure of its numerical strength. These put less emphasize on individual skill, and more on organization and leadership. It generates a ton of hype, really works the clan into a frenzy, and is a good way to push the clan forward in the clan world.

CWAPKRIs are similar to fullouts in the way that you test numerical strength and leadership, but there is slightly more emphasis on individual skill and consistant leadership ability.

For building quality members, matched opts with raids is the way to go. Fullouts and PKRIs should be an uncommon occurance.

I've always favored matched opts in both F2P and P2P with raids, with a rare fullout every 2-3 to push things forward. I generally dislike F2P pkris, but I enjoy P2P runins. Capped of course.

I'd rather have a strong group of core, skilled members then a large group of people who get koed/cant stay organized
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 08:15 pmTop
   
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Full-outs = 99% of the time we win if we outpull.
Matched = You die, you die. Half the time we lose.
PKRI = You die, you come back, you die. Repeat. And half the time we lose.

It's blatiantly obvious.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 08:35 pmTop
   
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PKRI's suck ass. I hate them. Would rather never ever attend one, especially F2P where its just boring as fuck.

Matched Ops is ok I guess, at least its evenish to start

Full out is best though since it sort of shows the strength in numbers of each clan
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 09:20 pmTop
   


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I like everything except for Matched Opts/Full Outs in PVP. In a PKRI there's a chance even if we lose I won't die.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 09:36 pmTop
   
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Voted for Full Out, but in all honesty would prefer we just did P2P.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 09:41 pmTop
   
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Full out, and like others are saying yes I would prefer more p2p
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 09:53 pmTop
   


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QUOTE: WG_Keanu September 20, 2010 04:15 pm
Full-outs = 99% of the time we win if we outpull.
Matched = You die, you die. Half the time we lose.
PKRI = You die, you come back, you die. Repeat. And half the time we lose.

It's blatiantly obvious.

I agree we win more Full Outs than the other types, but that's not always such a good thing.
As I said earlier,
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Most times these rely on numbers rather than skill. WG has always been good at pulling higher than the other clan, but that's mainly because we war clans we know we can out-pull. These tend to be our best war types, but if we had a full out with tougher clans my opinion on this would change.

The only way to better our PvP skills is to war clans that are better than us.
As the old saying goes "No pain, no gain"
Judging from the PKRI vs DW, our members need practice and they won't get that by warring a clan 30 vs 20 where the result is obvious from the start.
We need even fights or at least ones in which it's close.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 10:39 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Randy @ September 20, 2010 04:53 pm)
QUOTE: WG_Keanu September 20, 2010 04:15 pm
Full-outs = 99% of the time we win if we outpull.
Matched = You die, you die. Half the time we lose.
PKRI = You die, you come back, you die. Repeat. And half the time we lose.

It's blatiantly obvious.

I agree we win more Full Outs than the other types, but that's not always such a good thing.
As I said earlier,
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Most times these rely on numbers rather than skill. WG has always been good at pulling higher than the other clan, but that's mainly because we war clans we know we can out-pull. These tend to be our best war types, but if we had a full out with tougher clans my opinion on this would change.

The only way to better our PvP skills is to war clans that are better than us.
As the old saying goes "No pain, no gain"
Judging from the PKRI vs DW, our members need practice and they won't get that by warring a clan 30 vs 20 where the result is obvious from the start.
We need even fights or at least ones in which it's close.

Start pushing that button.
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 11:23 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: George @ September 21, 2010 03:28 am)
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Try an uncapped pkri hash.png
 
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Posted: September 20, 2010 11:49 pmTop
   
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This poll makes me think we should do matched opts. Obviously people dislike what they are weakest at lol. Not necessarily leaning their strongly but we need to up our wars per week. Short prep, under an hour to do. Shouldn't be too demanding honestly.
 
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Posted: September 21, 2010 01:19 amTop
   
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Matched options although I hate when we have massive turn outs and a shit ton of people get cut.
 
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Posted: September 21, 2010 03:35 amTop
   
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Full out. We have superior numbers to shit loads to clans, why not use it to our advantage?

I also love seeing spam messages from 100 people in scape. tongue.gif
 
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Posted: September 21, 2010 04:03 amTop
   


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full out nothing brings out the best/worst of a clan in a full out
 
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Posted: September 21, 2010 05:42 amTop
   


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i love full outs=)
and i hate pkri as i die 20 times without purpose.
 
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Posted: September 21, 2010 06:11 amTop
   
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Just imagine for a moment, just one moment everyone that reads this. Imagine if we had our numbers we have now with excellent organization and experience. We would redoubtably be one of the top warring clans.

Rethink matched wars. It is the ultimate test of a clan's levels, but also their fundamental skills in tanking and binding. We could have matched opts of three rounds so that everyone that comes to the war can get a turn as well. So it wouldn't be just our best guys improving on their own skills but everyone.

Not thinking of just this at the moment...

Soon we will be doing some drastic changes this week or near end of it or next. There will be more wars and we will be developing our core of strong warriors.
 
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Posted: September 21, 2010 06:12 amTop
   
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this is a one sided vote smile.gif
 
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Posted: September 22, 2010 12:23 amTop
   


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Voted. I am in the minority.
 
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