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Posted: September 28, 2010 05:37 pm  | |||||||||
     IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499    | Raiding is not about loot and making money but it certainly boosts the enjoyment of it. Getting kills is the goal however this cannot be achieved unless a few members sacrifice their ability to do damage for TBs and Spears. In order to get a kill efficiently it is very much necessary. The problem here is that the TBers and Spears end up getting very few kills if any at all. I bring this up because some have noticed that others, including myself, are guilty for never TBing or Spearing on raids. The reality is that the higher stats are much more useful in doing damage and therefore getting the kill. I'm suggesting a simple solution to this which is kind of like a reward system. It is not mandatory but definitely encouraged. If you're not TBing or Spearing, I'm suggesting you give a free 76k to a TBer or Spearer for every kill you get (ex. 4 kills = 4 free 76ks). Most kills range from 300k-1m. A 76k subtraction from every kill will not make a significant impact on your overall gain. Remember, you probably wouldn't of got a kill in the first place if it wasn't for them. This could potentially give someone back all of the sets the may have lost. This makes the raid a bit more enjoyable for everyone and people will no longer get frustrated at dying with no gain. The only catch here would be that all of this must be done at the end of the raid so no one starts begging and losing focus. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 05:40 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 | I miss 2006. Sounds good to me though. *banks DDS and brings out spear*  --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 05:40 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 | I agree to a degree. I used to TB all the time but recently ive been on ancients as i was fed up of getting kills. BUt thats not to say tbers dont get kills. And i would say even those using spears get kills. As joe got one from me the other day that i killed but joe got the drop with a damn spear.. The only way round this is that we have some sort of rota to whose tbing or ancienting. And if you do miss a raid. then you will be tbing or whatever at the next one. Ofc that means if you dont have 85 mage then you will be spearing. +P --------------------     | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 05:46 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 |
It's definitely possible to get kill but you have to be REALLY lucky. By the time you get a TB off, people have already hit a few times and the target should be near dead. As far as spears go, if they're doing it right, they shouldn't usually get the kill since the spec doesn't do damage, but there are always the times when it's recharging. Hm. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 05:57 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 | aye ofc. But then maybe we should get everyone to bring dspears and swap who uses them per encounter? -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 06:06 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Ret[Keith] Group: Emeritus Posts: 2049 Member No.: 86 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 82 | I've TBed a few times, it's wicked annoying when people go "TBers should be doing better" when you're on a raid... if you think the tbers aren't doing a good job, DO IT YOUR FUCKING SELF (explodes) -------------------- Best Firemaker in WG no lie   <--- rofl1st joined WG: October 18th, 2005. Ex-WG mod, OPH winner  ^My original idea (U GOIN DOWN TWIZ)^ 189th person to get "100" firemaking Hash Unit, Tun Unit, C-Unit    | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 06:08 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 |
Oh i totally agree with you on that. Ive stopped raiding before cos of that. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 06:10 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Ret[Keith] Group: Emeritus Posts: 2049 Member No.: 86 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 82 |
Yeah and I agree with Randy here - because basically when you decide to TB, you're ensuring that you won't get kills and then being selfless by helping other people get kills -------------------- Best Firemaker in WG no lie <--- rofl1st joined WG: October 18th, 2005. Ex-WG mod, OPH winner ^My original idea (U GOIN DOWN TWIZ)^ 189th person to get "100" firemaking Hash Unit, Tun Unit, C-Unit | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 06:21 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | I normally use spear specs and things if i'm on low ep. I would love to see more spearing I know it's similar to tbing when raidleaders complain about a person not staying frozen and it just needs one spear to kill them. and the few times i've tbed it's been really anyoying the tbs splashing and it takes 3-4 attempts just for someone to complain. -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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Posted: September 28, 2010 07:12 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 |
I myself also TB every single raid. Even the impromptu ones i switch over for no matter what im doing. Just that after the first raid i had with WG, noone TBed, so i made this my goal. I really do appreciate those people that do give me 76k's, cause i rather need them. I lose quite a few sets but I don't exactly complain cause there is always one person that will regularly give me a 76k. I'm all in favour of the rewards system Randy. Good idea. -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum!   | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 07:17 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | Spear every time the whole time.  -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 07:32 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | I'll usually TB/spear if im low EP -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 10:59 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guest Posts: 387 Member No.: 2058 Joined: August 16, 1938 Total Events Attended: 38 |
i agree with this. And mark if you ever need a 76k hit me up =) --------------------  | ||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2010 11:41 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mmangler Group: Emeritus Posts: 1595 Member No.: 1580 Joined: December 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 165 | Thanks for posting about fairness. When I raid I usually mage in some manner and I really do not care if I get kills. I do care when people rage about those maging. We do not intentionally splash so yeh if you do not like the splashes do it yourself. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: September 29, 2010 12:37 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | I found tb'ing with a Dbow makes up for the lack of damage from casting a TB . But yes Randy you're completely right, it's a shame the way PvP loot system has fanned out in runescape where the whole quote "share i tbed" has become nulled and pretty much shunned out all tbers from any of the excitement of receiving any awards from the person they tbed. -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||||||||
Posted: September 29, 2010 01:06 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | im not fussed, as you touched on, raids arnt about getting kills, its about getting the clan together firstly, and secondly get the name WG out there again, and fighting other teams/clans. The loot is just a bonus, and shouldnt be looted until the team has been cleared (this also means for killing lone people) so i tb every raid, im not fussed, i havnt lost a P2P set in around 6 weeks, guess it helps to have people like maths, vephy and fbi is zuriels lolz --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||||
Posted: September 29, 2010 02:19 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 | I've died once in the last two months whilst raiding. I've only ever d speared/d scimmed. Yes the people who never get a kill should get a free 76k. This is already happening, after every raid jordan, or whoever gets like 2mil from the raid is like "who wants a 76k?" or if i ask for one someone will give me one. Its not like members refuse to give them. The person who makes the most money on the trip should offer to give a few 76ks. Not be forced. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||||||
Posted: September 29, 2010 06:59 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 |
Is it wrong but i get kills when i MSB +) and tbing +) MSB's are pro. maybe next time bring darkbow hmm -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: September 29, 2010 12:19 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 |
MSB>dark bow i've had more kills with msb on a raid than I did with db -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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