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 End The ZT Alliance?
Posted: September 29, 2010 06:12 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: His Lordship
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I will not post any information that may bias the vote.
Just vote with your existing knowledge.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 06:14 pmTop
   
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Why not strengthen it other than terminating it?
We never know, one day they might help us..
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 06:14 pmTop
   


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i voted yes because i never seen annyone of em

 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 06:15 pmTop
   
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Voted.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 06:16 pmTop
   
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voted.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
~~Colin Powell ~~

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Posted: September 29, 2010 06:16 pmTop
   
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Voted yes due the fact since I joined like 2-3 months ago, I only ever seen 1 of their members and we never done anything with them like we have with our other ally
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 06:27 pmTop
   
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The WG-ZT alliance is overshadowed by the WG-TS for one.

We never really did much with ZT. With TS, we're out together every other day. ZT... we had a couple of Falador raids together, and that was it really mellow.gif

They're a good clan, but I can't see much good coming from the alliance anymore unsure.gif
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

Posted: September 29, 2010 06:48 pmTop
   


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Didn't we teamed a few times with ZT in 2009 Summer?
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 07:05 pmTop
   


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i never really seem them but i only joined this year
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 07:40 pmTop
   
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I voted yes.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 07:56 pmTop
   
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Well we have to consider WHY we made an alliance with them. It was more for the sake of "extending" our 3v0 alliance. It wasnt that we thought both clans could help each other grow. The formation of the alliance was barely validated.

Anyways, I found them pretty good allies way back when we started. They attended many of our raids, and we had frequent interclans to learn from each other. However, if theres no coordination at all between the two clans to work together, and no raid leader of ours or there is working together, then theres no point.

Us alerting them that we have a raid short prep and inviting them along does not count as working together; prepped allied events only.
 
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"It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations."

Posted: September 29, 2010 08:16 pmTop
   
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Is it hurting us?
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 08:22 pmTop
   


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They offer us nothing.
They never invite us to anything nor do they try to strengthen the alliance.
And to be honest, I don't consider WG + 2 ZT members an allied raid.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 09:14 pmTop
   
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Whose all in ZT that comes to raids with us?
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 09:29 pmTop
   


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QUOTE: Flame Outlaw @ September 29, 2010 05:14 pm)
Whose all in ZT that comes to raids with us?

CJ (Underceige) and Torreoria are pretty much the only two we ever see
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 09:34 pmTop
   
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Merge.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 10:18 pmTop
   


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But I love CJ sad.gif

(voted yes though. I never knew much about ZT except CJ)
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 10:25 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Rodney75 @ September 29, 2010 05:18 pm)
But I love CJ sad.gif

(voted yes though. I never knew much about ZT except CJ)

CJ left ZT I think.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 11:20 pmTop
   
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Posted: September 29, 2010 11:38 pmTop
   
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I for one, and I know Kcross did a lot of this, as has the current council... we have all tried to re-invigorate this dead alliance... but to no avail.
I tried hosting events with them, but they were largely unwilling to organise them.
When I try inviting their members, I am met with no responses either on forums or IRC... so i've stopped trying.

Their members don't even want to attend our raids, including their leaders.

I think my post is low enough down for me not to influence people's votes... but I wanted to say the above neko2.gif
 
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Posted: September 29, 2010 11:42 pmTop
   
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Posted: September 30, 2010 12:04 amTop
   
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Yes.
 
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Not the destination."

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Posted: September 30, 2010 12:50 amTop
   
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QUOTE: George @ September 29, 2010 06:38 pm)
I for one, and I know Kcross did a lot of this, as has the current council... we have all tried to re-invigorate this dead alliance... but to no avail.
I tried hosting events with them, but they were largely unwilling to organise them.
When I try inviting their members, I am met with no responses either on forums or IRC... so i've stopped trying.

Their members don't even want to attend our raids, including their leaders.

I think my post is low enough down for me not to influence people's votes... but I wanted to say the above neko2.gif

Before people started putting in opinions, it was 15-3 so I doubt that will effect it much
 
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"It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations."

Posted: September 30, 2010 01:16 amTop
   


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Who proposed the Alliance, ZT?
If they initiated the relationship, I think it would be best to discuss with them the potential of our leaving.


I don't know much about the situation, but I'm under the impression that many members are somewhat irritated by it - and for what seems like good reasons - therefore, wouldn't protest breaking the alliance.
 
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Posted: September 30, 2010 02:42 amTop
   
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From when I was active within WG, ZT were great active allies. I have no idea of how things have been since then.

I do know that they are not the most active clan, both on forums and events.
 
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