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Posted: October 5, 2010 06:46 am  | |||
      IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208    | I'm opening up this topic, cause as time goes on there isn't really any pictures that have been put up for reference, to show us what WG should or could be taking to the war vs Gladz. While looking over the restrictions for the war repeatedly ive tried to create what i think are the some decent ideas for Gear. I'm not saying, I wish for people to make comments on what they think they would change, preferably adding their own pictures because its needed at this point. Basic Melee Setup  Now with this setup you might be thinking, "Where the hell is the Neitz helm?", But according to the Gear Restrictions, these are not allowed but Fremmenik Helms and Dragon Meds are aswell as an exception. By checking them both i found that Dragon Med is the all round best, better than a Berserker Helm as that is really more for str bonus. And of course better than a Warrior Helm. You could change the Prayer Book for a rune kite if you wish to be abit more defensive, id reccomend this for people that are -85 in Defence. But everyone else should really want Attack Bonus. Unless you think that your not exactly much of a tank. I apologise for the fact that I have used a Guthix Book cause I don't have a Zamorak book at this point. Zamorak Book is reccomended if you want more attack bonuses than Defence. In this picture I'm using Dragon Boots cause i believe that the bonuses are good and I'm not exactly worried about the costs. If your very lenient with your budget then you could take various rings for bonuses such as a Warrior or even a Zerker. I myself chose to use Explorers Ring cause you never know, you could be tanking for years and may need the energy, plus the +1 prayer must help that little bit where other rings don't. I'm not expecting ANYONE to bring a Ring of Life cause that is just an absolute no-no. With this gear id hope that everyone would have a Dragon Spear or Dagger as an alternate Spec weapon. These are going to be needed, especially the Spears! Basic Mage Setup  With this setup I'm sure that were not allowed to use Barrows armour, if we were id recommend an Ahrims Hood over Farseer any day. But for this particular war, it looks like Farseer is the best were gonna get due to the restrictions. Again id also Recommend using a Zamorak Book instead if u have it because the Magic attack bonus is +8. If your after more Defence bonuses of course you can replace it with another Prayer Book but you'd have to sacrifice your attack bonuses. Taking a Rune Kite is a Bad idea in my opinion, as it takes down your Magic attack bonuses drastically. We must not use Ancient Staffs in this battle as it is part of the restrictions, God Staffs and Battlestaves are allowed, which is why i chose to use a Water Battlestaff as they have much higher bonuses compares to God Staffs. And of course you could substitute the Ring for something else, quite possible a Seers Ring if your interested in having +4 Magic Attack and Defence for and extra 500k. If you still have the lunar outfit hiding in your bank or closet in your house, Grab the ring. It has +2 to Magic Attack and Defence. Basic Range Setup  I imagine the majority of Rangers would be using this gear as it is the most common. Snakeskin boots take priority over Climbing Boots for sure, offering slightly more Attack and Defence bonuses at a very minuscule cost, highly recommended. But again if you wanted to bring Dragon Boots for the extra Defence go for it, It's well worth the risk for this special occasion in my opinion. But to take it one step further, you could also take an Archers Ring at a hefty cost of 1.8M for +4 Range Attack and Defence. NO CROSSBOWS ALLOWED, this is why I am using a Magic Short-bow with Rune Arrows in this setup, best option that could be found. It's quick when set to rapid, and the Special Attack also has the power to KO, but I would hope that EVERYONE is bringing a Dragon Spear/DDS to use for Spec weapons. You could also use D'hide chaps instead of Rune Platelegs/Skirt but you would be sacrificing quite abit of Defence, I'd only reccomend this to those who can tank VERY well and are 99 Defence please. Ok, now I've got all that out, I'm sorry if it doesn't exactly feel like my place to post this. But it was getting to the time where it was needed. And these ideas needed to be brought forward. These pictures are only for the 3 BASIC SETUPS. It's up to you to figure out how you are going to Hybrid/Tribrid depending in your strengths. If anyone is able to post Some example Inventories that would be appreciated as everyone uses alot of different layouts. I didn't want to confuse people with my hectic Inventory. And PLEASE POST YOUR IDEAS/CRITICISM, i want people to say what they think could/should be changed so when we get further along we can come out with the PERFECT Gear for each area. FORGET THE SHIT ABOUT THE RINGS I forgot that we are going to have infinite run  -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum!   | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 06:56 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 | Prayer book?  Looks good  although I'll have to bring dragon gauntlets instead of barrows gloves  --------------------  [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 08:10 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 |
Well id bring a spirit shield if i could but with the restrictions as they are, we cant :S -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum! | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 08:25 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | for range would have full dhide with rune platelegs in inventory as it will help freezes splash. and then poison arrows as every little helps. would use rune kite instead of prayer book as defence bonus is going to be very important for tanking. Inventory would take some phoenix necklaces, just think of how many time rol has saved you, phoenix necklace can give you that little extra help taanking. for ring. Dragonstone(i)>diamond (i) > ring of recoil extra prayer bonus shouldn't be too important as you have prayer pots too keep you going and for run you should have infinite run or/and summer pies to give as much run as you need. but overall good set ups -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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Posted: October 5, 2010 09:10 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | What's up with the rings? We have infinite run. --------------------  | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 09:12 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 |
That is the one thing i forgot about, thanks. -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum! | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 01:48 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
Your setup in my gear -  A better setup -  * Yes, I realize the range defence is (+10) not (-10). On a side note, melee should definitely be taking a rune kite in any case for tanking purposes, as well as rangers + mages. Your mage setup has quite low defensive; sure you want to be offensive, but mages are a primary target. I'd at least be maging with either a d med or rune kiteshield on for the defensive edge. I'd only switch to the book if there was no risk of getting piled. If gladz saw a lone mage standing out with basically no defensive gear on, that's an easy target. As it is mages are going to be piled heavily, so I'd go for defensive. In regards to rings, if you're under 115 f2p, please take a ring of recoil. Chances are you're going to get piled first, so it won't be worth taking an imbued ring (or zerker/seer's/archer). You'd do more damage with the 400 LP a ring of recoil hits on the opposing team. For mages, same rule applies as above to under 120 f2p. Mages have higher probability of being piled, and a mage under 120 f2p is a massive target. Take a recoil. Continuing on with rings, please try and get an imbued ring if you're 115+ f2p melee/range or 120+ f2p mage. It'll take you hours, its not fun at all, but I personally find them very useful. The diamond (i) gives +4/5 on all combat stats, so its like a free archer/seers/warrior ring. If you don't want to get one, considering bringing a zerker/archer/seers/warrior. Some of the cheap ones are around 500k, and we're only doing this war once. Every little bit counts. Barrows gloves are a must, and the god cape is probably the best cape you can take, unless you're wanting to risk a fire cape. Everybody, regardless of what you're going as should have the standard tank gear in their inventory, which is the d med, black d-hide body, rune platelegs, rune kiteshield. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 02:03 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Mages, take a god staff...gives you 10%..ermm ill edit more. When I think some more. --------------------    | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 02:50 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | god staves don't give +10% damage unless it's void mace so water staff is better for +10 mage attack and better defence -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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Posted: October 5, 2010 03:47 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | So yea, Im Lee. For the guys that dont know me, I used to be a raid leader. I had a big thing for p2p, so this is kinda where im useful. Errm Anyone want any tanking tips, PM me on IRC, or on the forums, I can talk you threw it on TS or something. Melee DDS - No, simple as. Noone is to have one. You are not a 1 man army. P2p is about team work. Not running around, and trying to spec someone out. YOU ARE NOT TO BRING ONE. D Spear - If you are melee, then you are to bring one. Its simple as that. The spec for a D Spear is amazing, you spec someone, and it freezes them, and they cant eat. 2 Specs are enough. D Scimitar - This is the weapon to bring with the d spear. The spec is also good, but only if you do damage. It removes overhead prayers. If you are higher than 115 f2p, then d scim spec is for you, below and you wanna be using d spear. D spear spec never fails. If you cant buy any, PM me, but you should all have them. Range - No matter what, you are to bring Range. If you get frozen, outside the pile, then you can just switch to range, and continue to range the pile. = Constant Damage. Also, if you see they are praying melee, then you can range them.  As you can see, I have gone for a warrior helm, over Dragon Med. This because of the +6 slash attack, and +1 mage defence. Idea is to get the d scim doing some damage As you can see, I have lined up my food, to make tanking easier. I shall explain this later. I dont have an imbued ring, but if you have time to get one, then you want to be getting diamond ring (i). If not recoil, or explorers ring...explorers ring is kinda pointless, as you wont really be running, but its up to you. Noone is to bring a ring of life. Anyone seen porting out, will be sat on, by my fat ass mother. Magic Magic is very important in p2p. It helps to stop people running off. Making it easier for you to pile them. The idea with mage, is to make it hidden. Dont be running around in your mage gear. The idea is to freeze, and then right click and follow. DO NOT STAND IN THE OPEN. YOU WILL BE PILED... 2 styles, when maging, isnt so critical, because normally, you end up running around in only mage, just with your tank gear on. So what you need todo, is bring enough runes to last you, then bring a D SPEAR. DO NOT FORGET YOUR D SPEAR. As mentioned earlier, d spear is as good as maging, apart from mage can be caught from a distance. I checked both god staff, and battle staff. Battle staff is tons better. So if your maging, bring a watter b stave. God Books are a waste. If you use Zammy, you have no defence. If you use sara, you have no attack. So use a rune kite. You may say, 'oh but it lowers mage attack'. Yes I know, but it'll stop some of the range sniping your gonna get. And it'll help tanking. Using a dmed, for the same reason. It'll help tanking, and if your in tank, with your dspear, you can easily blag it off as a melee'er.  Range Left this untill last...as its kinda pointless...but here we go... Range is ok. With crossbows, but we are not allowed them, so bringing a mage short, and rune arrows..is pretty pointless... Unless your shit poor, then talk to me about it..ill sort something...just please..dont turn up in just range. Tanking As you can see, in both pictures, I lined my food up, so I can click across, Basically, rocktail, brew, pizza doesnt work anymore. Or I cant get it to work. So whatcha wanna do, is click rocktail and then brew, all in 1 motion, and then, if you think your in crap, spam click your pizza, so that bring you outa trouble... Phoenix Necklace... If your like a pro tank..(BTO, Me, Not darth), when you get speared, you can put on whats called a pheonix necklace. If you go below 200 hp, then it brings you back up to 500 and then your saved, you can stick these on, whilst being speared. Alot of the noobs use them..but they are veryyyyy handy. But this is for someone, who is very confident in they're tanking abilities. If I have missed anything, then PM me..I dont think I have. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 03:52 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Yea, I forgot, just checked. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 07:37 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Lee do we need that many D Spears? It would be better for 50% of WG to take spears, and pull them out slowly over the course of the fight. We only need one or two at a time. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 07:51 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 | Oh one other thing. I was trying to come up with a use of G Mauls for this war. I think JC came up with the idea of getting about 5 people with 99 Attack/Strength to go along with the pile and scout a mage. Then when they are ready, make the call and just drop the mage in a second. Not sure if this would be a good or a bad idea. Discuss? -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum! | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 08:10 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 |
Very helpful when P2P tanking -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 11:22 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 |
D spears are like crucial, to the whole of p2p... And yea BTO, but how many people can actually use one, and use it well.. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 5, 2010 11:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | Hmm thats cool, didn't know about the phoenix necklace. Should buy few hundred. --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 6, 2010 07:10 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: `Woof Group: Ex-Member Posts: 488 Member No.: 2301 Joined: June 24, 2010 Total Events Attended: 52 |
Very good idea in my opinion, have a little "g maul sniper unit" going around spec KOing their weaker guys/magers. -------------------- They call me the Master woof   | ||
Posted: October 6, 2010 08:17 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | how good do you need to be to use phoenix necklaces? I mean as long as someone puts one on then chances are they survive an extra second or so which is all helpful and it only replaces one or two food which in likely hood if the phoenix necklace didn't save them would have been wasted anyway -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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Posted: October 6, 2010 10:20 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | G maul idea is pointless. Waste of 5 peoples spec bars, and takes to much co-ordination. Wait untill we can easily ruin gladz in pvp, then we shall start fannying about with gmaul sniper units. Pyro, thing I worry about is weather people are gonna even stick there tank gear on if they're piled, let alone worrying about a necklace switch. Lols. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 6, 2010 10:57 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | yeah I get that, but then it doesn't make much difference what they have in their inventory -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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Posted: October 6, 2010 11:11 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Yea, well if you want to bring one, then bring it...they do help tanking, I use them all the time.. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 6, 2010 05:33 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | option of elite black platelegs 40def requirement, 80k more def except for crush, but no one uses crush weapons less range attack negativity but hardly any difference -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
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