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 We Are Not A Community Clan
Posted: October 5, 2010 09:36 pmTop
   
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There are a few ambiguities that need to be cleared.


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Community vs PVP

I wish to make it all official in the form of an announcement.
The Wilderness Guardians is a warring (PVP) clan.
We have been a PVP clan since we were founded.
We have never been a community clan.

This means a few things:

1. You must attend all wars unless sleeping or occupied in real life
2. Official raids are mandatory to attend if you are online. Spontaneous raids remain voluntary.
3. You must sign up for all long-prep (5+ days notice) fights as a yes or a no.

However, as we advertise, you may play when you like, how you like apart from the above considerations.

On a related note, let's not turn our PVP into a joke. It's the driving force behind WG. PVP events should be the major consideration when you visit these forums. Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights, automatically get into the habit of wanting to sign up for whatever possible. Know your raid times and keep that part of your week free to attend. We have two set times. Surely most people can make one. If you can't, speak to the leadership and we'll see if we can make the times better.

If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


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Multiclanning

There has been a change of rules, however most rules remain the same.

1. Skilling clans are fine. Community-only clans are fine
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.
3. Minor WG events may be skipped for another clan's events. Major WG events always get first priority. (Official raids, wars, PKRIs, major community events such as in the anniversary)




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Emeritus

The Emeritus rules are not written down and only really known through general knowledge. I think it should stay that way, simply because by the time you get to a position worthy of emeritus, you should know the system well enough anyway. I write them down here, so store them in your mind.

1. Emeritus is not guaranteed to anyone except council ranks, but is *usually* given to tertiaries assuming they've served properly.
2. Some elite members are also eligible, but it is not certain at all.
3. The main criteria is outstanding service to WG. previously it was allowed to Higher Guardian+, and then more recently Elite Guardian+. No longer. We've made it harder to get emeritus, so that only the most memorable members can achieve it once they retire. That comes down to the council's discretion
4. On the plus side, there is absolutely no activity requirement (even a forum activity requirement) for the rank any more. You earned it for good.
5. If you're Runescape-active, you have to have an active rank. Emeritus is not suitable.




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Forum Activity Requirements

If you cannot visit the forums at least twice a week, you'll need an inactivity topic. Extended time periods will be granted based on your standing with the clan. Sign-ups for fights will now be taken as activity checks. If you don't have an inactivity topic and you are not signed up, you will be removed after several consecutive strikes.




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These new rules (apart from the Emeritus rules) can be found in the updated rules topic, here:

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=13492

I will answer any related questions you guys have.
Just post below with your questions and comments.
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 09:53 pmTop
   


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It confuses me how the Gladz war is at a somewhat similar time as the allied raid yet we only pull around 10 (wg) to that... and then suddenly 45 to the war? If people would start having the same motivation to go to raids WG would be unstoppable. Thank you for the post Lordy it should really clarify things.
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 10:39 pmTop
   
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I agree to everything on this list. I appreciate your commitment to the clan and where you're trying to take it. I'm having troubles finding the updates in the rules, but maybe that's just because I'm being stupid. tongue.gif

I also agree about the thing about the war and the raids, but for someone like in my case, I've only -just- got Saturday's off starting this week, so I'm kind of lucky on that thing.

Anyways, good topic, hope all goes well.
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:04 pmTop
   
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If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


Does this mean we are getting more wars p/week because at this moment we have one every two weeks-ish.

edit: just saw the 20 hour prep war, w00t

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Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights


This is what we need. Everyone needs to get pumped for wars#.

Great stuff to finally lay down the law and tell people we aren't a community clan Eugene. king.gif
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:12 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Zooby69 @ October 05, 2010 11:04 pm)
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If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


Does this mean we are getting more wars p/week because at this moment we have one every two weeks-ish.

edit: just saw the 20 hour prep war, w00t

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Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights


This is what we need. Everyone needs to get pumped for wars#.

Great stuff to finally lay down the law and tell people we aren't a community clan Eugene. king.gif

I'd like to keep our major fights to every few weeks Josh. Personally I think several a week is overloading WG. We'll get fed up with fighting.
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:12 pmTop
   
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I've been waiting for a topic like this for years now. Good to finally see it.

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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:15 pmTop
   
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I love this !
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:20 pmTop
   
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Bit bothered that Emeritus don't have to attend wars if they are a little active. Meh.

Besides that I am very happy about this as I had to continuously debate and argue these rules with some members. I asked for clarification and you gave this topic so I'm grateful.
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:24 pmTop
   
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Finally...biggrin.gif
 
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Posted: October 5, 2010 11:31 pmTop
   
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Clarification was long overdue. I'm glad this topic is up now.
 
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Posted: October 6, 2010 12:10 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Randy @ October 05, 2010 09:53 pm)
It confuses me how the Gladz war is at a somewhat similar time as the allied raid yet we only pull around 10 (wg) to that... and then suddenly 45 to the war? If people would start having the same motivation to go to raids WG would be unstoppable. Thank you for the post Lordy it should really clarify things.

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Does this mean emeritus are excluded from sign ups as per the no forum activity requirement?
 
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Posted: October 6, 2010 12:18 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ October 05, 2010 07:10 pm)
QUOTE: Randy October 05, 2010 09:53 pm
It confuses me how the Gladz war is at a somewhat similar time as the allied raid yet we only pull around 10 (wg) to that... and then suddenly 45 to the war? If people would start having the same motivation to go to raids WG would be unstoppable. Thank you for the post Lordy it should really clarify things.

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Does this mean emeritus are excluded from sign ups as per the no forum activity requirement?

They always were, but we ask them to our most important wars. Hope we still do at least.
 
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Posted: October 6, 2010 04:04 amTop
   


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Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Posted: October 6, 2010 08:40 pmTop
   
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What do you qualify as RuneScape active?

I appreciate this topic. It has been long overdue.
 
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Posted: October 6, 2010 10:50 pmTop
   
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Ohh so I guess I'm the elite of the most honorable members of the clan since I'm emeritus, yeah?

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Posted: October 7, 2010 02:04 amTop
   
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Amen.
 
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Posted: October 7, 2010 02:32 amTop
   


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QUOTE: His_Lordship October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks
 
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Posted: October 7, 2010 02:44 amTop
   
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QUOTE: His_Lordship October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

AF definitely isn't allowed, and isn't Brut NH so they wouldn't be allowed even if they're on RC or not.
 
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Posted: October 7, 2010 02:50 amTop
   
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We did have an exception with Leecable because they were in AF before it came in place. Lee is in AF retired list and it was a huge issue for us in his acceptance. So don't try to use Lee as a way to get in AF.

But our rules are clear here. AF is not allowed.

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...ndpost&p=233586
 
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Posted: October 7, 2010 03:33 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Tweek900 @ October 07, 2010 02:32 am)
QUOTE: His_Lordship October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.
 
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Posted: October 8, 2010 12:46 amTop
   
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i would love to go to more raids wars and so on, it just seems to rarely coinside with my RL schedule, recently ive been pritty busy and video games havent been prioity on my list as a result.

however i do try to sign up to all i can and take part in all i can too.

in honesty it doesent help my mates in the clan (sativas topwobler and supremopete) havent been all that active either recently when they return to regular play im sure my attendance will improve, and i feel a bit out of my depth arround some more of the hardcore pkers or war vets.

tonights tank practice was good, i enjoyed it alot and hope to attend more.

anyways theres my, i guess it kinda sounds like and excuses for my relative inactivity recently.
 
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Posted: October 8, 2010 01:47 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Indivi2you @ October 06, 2010 10:50 pm)
Ohh so I guess I'm the elite of the most honorable members of the clan since I'm emeritus, yeah?

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QUOTE: His_Lordship @ October 07, 2010 03:33 am)
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QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.
 
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QUOTE: His_Lordship October 07, 2010 03:33 am
       
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QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.

yes and neither would i.... so i should be aloud in af?
 
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Posted: October 9, 2010 12:36 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe October 08, 2010 01:49 pm
       
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QUOTE: Tweek900  October 07, 2010 02:32 am
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.

yes and neither would i.... so i should be aloud in af?

No, Lee is a long standing and respected member of WG who I have the utmost respect and trust in. eviltardsmile.gif
 
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