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Posted: December 8, 2010 06:22 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I had a talk with Keanu today. Lay down the issues that have angered WG. I defined the attitude that upset WG. ![]() Self-promotion, boasting, craving attention. And it's all made worse by apparent leadership bias. This topic is a place for civil discussion about Keanu. I don't want any exaggeration. I don't want any flames. Keanu will be reading this and learning from it. You all need to be mature. If you have a problem with him, you can't simply go off "he's immature". You need to tell him specifically what put you off. As long as you are not attacking him, and you are being constructive, you will be heard. GOOD EXAMPLE:
BAD EXAMPLE:
The fact still remains... he wrote the clan history when nobody else would. He *might* have written it incorrectly, but he didn't know that. __________________________________________ I'm going to raise a few key points now. Historian Rank None of you would really dispute this based on his work. His work for WG is already worthy of council. The attitude is the dealbreaker. The fact is, the haircut was the cherry on the cake, and not the full reason for his promotion. His work makes him worthy of this rank, which he needs anyway to access certain archive forums. As for half-op, I don't see the harm in rewarding him with it as long as he's not abusive. Considering what he's done to EARN the rank, yes EARN, a tiny little reward like that isn't that much to ask. DDS on Raids A rather stupid topic to make, but you guys were so angry with him at the time you failed to see that the main point of his topic was about antiRPKing. DDSing on raids was his way of commenting on how we were RPKing. Poor way to deal with it I know, and I've spoken to him about it. He won't pull something like that again. Bias from Leaders This refers to several things including the Historian rank, which I've justified. It also refers to Keanu's lack of punishment for crimes like running from a DM with Lee. I admit I'm in a minority to not see it as a big deal. But if WG sees it as cowardly, so it is. Rachel taking away his mentorship seems like a slap on the wrist, doesn't it? Well the thing is, Keanu's been punished by WG as well. You outcast him, and publicly spat on him in a topic. and that's far worse than a suspension. In other matters where he may have deserved punishment, I will look at them again if you post them... but I feel we're all ready to move on. ______________________________________________ This is a vicious cycle. Keanu is CRAVING appreciation. He works so hard on WG.com, the wiki page, events, videos... This isn't to say that other members have given much to WG. But what Keanu has given is too much for me to ignore. Historian rank is a comparatively meager reward for it all. All he wanted was to be valued and respected. When at first he wasn't, be began to post it to draw our attention to it. Refer to his signature and other posts where he brags. He thought we'd see what he'd given. How wrong he was. He hosted the summer awards, and to remind us of that it went into his sig. He thought we'd be grateful for him hosting the awards. No. We were unimpressed that he bragged. He's a good man who made bad decisions. It is not in my conscience to punish him, the one who is so selfless. Why do I sympathise so? Because I was just like him. To earn respect, I used to brag too, and WG put up with it because I was the leader. They sort of HAD to give me respect, and once I had it, I stopped. For Keanu, nobody HAS to respect him, and things are getting worse. Anyway, I've spoken to him about his attitude, and he sees what went wrong. It is now time to get things out in the open. Be respectful. There is lots of anger. Control it. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 06:38 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Gene, you've said exactly what I felt. Keanu, you're a good guy at heart. I honestly think you are. You really do have good intentions for WG, but the way you go about your business is all the wrong way. I'm not sure if you're serious or not when you say it, but when you say things like "I don't need to train anymore" or dumb stuff like that, it's THAT kind of attitude that makes WG hate you. I am sure that you joke around when you say things like that. It gets to the point though to where it just pisses people off. It's now at the point to where you have such a big part in WG's current community, when you look stupid, everyone bashes you for it. You hold a prestigious position, and you're making it look like a joke with your trolling. If you could just simply.. stop being an outcast. Be more involved with the community, and actually add on constructive posts into serious topics, then yes Keanu, what Lordy said is right. You CAN go far in WG. For now, though, your attitude is sinking you lower and lower, and only you can change it. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 07:03 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu Group: Council Posts: 4782 Member No.: 2033 Joined: August 25, 2009 Total Events Attended: 173 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I've applied for Council a few times. When asked about my weakness, I say my immaturity. Whether or not that's the correct term, the line I put in which explains my way of addressing it is:
How wrong I was. Every time. Or I would have seen this coming months ago. It took His Lordship's post here to make me understand not only what I've been doing, but the reasons why. That's something I would know myself if what I said was true. I was explaining my reasons behind the DDS stunt to Gene when he showed me the topic, and when I read it, I stopped speechless. I was wrong about knowing when I'm wrong. Until we talked tonight and I saw this post, I had no idea. For whatever reason I just couldn't see why my self-destruction in WG had happened. Maybe it was because I'm the focus of it, and needed an outsider's perspective. Or maybe I was ignorant to it. I don't know. In retrospect it seems obvious, that I was seeking attention. Maybe immaturity is the right word after all. I always simply asked myself, "Do I seem immature?" and replied "Yes". I never thought to take a closer look at the word itself, and what attributes applied to me that defined it. And that, in itself, is immaturity. Realising this was a stepping stone that I should have taken already, but has had to be handed to me. I'm thankful for it, because I can see that without it I would never have continued. The next one, as I said, is to stop. Without it, the third stone of reconciliation is meaningless - as I will always be able to apologise and make up for my actions, but if these actions continue, my apologies and efforts will lose their meaning. I don't know. You guys are going to question that. You'll say "How hard can it be to stop acting like a douche?" and in truth, it's not. But when I ask myself, "Can I stop this right now?", I don't come up with a clear "yes". Having to have someone explain myself to me has put me in a state of confusion. And if I have any doubt in my mind, I don't make promises if I'm not sure I can keep them. So I will start by taking the two stones at once. I apologise for everything I've done - the DDS stunt, awards sig, the video, the DM, every single detail. I know that I've done wrong, and I regret it, and I would not do any of those things again. But there are more mistakes that I could make and problems that I could cause. After tonight, I cannot promise that those will not happen. But I will promise that I will do my best to do what I can to prevent them. And if I am successful, then maybe that apology will be worth something. I also apologise for the length of this post. Thank you WG, for understanding, and giving me this opportunity. There are few to no other clans that would go so far. That, I respect and admire. -------------------- ![]() [05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic [05:42] <%kat> same | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 08:26 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Please listen then Keanu and dont post back would be better i feel. Listen man. Ive got mixed emotions on one side of a great amount of respect5. You may not remember but i certainly do when you came into tsa irc and apologized about WG's shoddy attendance at the stealing creation event with my guys. Yuo didnt have to but you did so uch respect for that. On the other hand all the stuff about RPKing. One. If you run from the fight. That shows how much you care about it. There is no honour in running from a fight Two. DDs on a raid. Thats being immature most of us get annoyed when on a raid. Seems silly on your part about posting that you know what feedback you would get. Thirdly. The clan history read it. And take out the part where you mention me. Yes its not in name but in all honesty man i dont appreciate it. You could of at least asked. Ive seen people say you can go far in WG. Yes you can and proberly will. But you have One choice to make. A. You stop being like you are and grow up or whatever it takes let WG embrace you as they do with some of the other staff. Build those bonds of friendship. Two. Carry on the way you are now. Where if you do get anywhere you will be hated. And then people will not listen to you. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 09:01 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Danb1992 Group: Emeritus Posts: 243 Member No.: 2421 Joined: October 4, 2010 Total Events Attended: 89 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'm in agreement with most people here, Keanu you're an awesome guy. From what I see you do put huge amounts off effort to better this clan and as Gene said, you are a great asset to the clan and I don't think anybody can truly deny that. Seems to me though when it comes to pk'ing various people have problems with the way you go about things, dds on raids i've witnessed and you've been warned to put it away and do so eventually.. but it does take time for that to happen, I've heard other people have problems or comments, but it's not my place and I don't know enough about it to make comment on it. Please don't take any of it in offence, I was just commenting to point out the things i've personally noticed, no offence intended. You're awesome Keanu and i'd hate to see this turn into a big thing when it could all be solved quite easily D; -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 09:16 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 ![]() ![]() ![]() | The way I see things is, if you are doing something just to make yourself seem better, or to get respect for people, instead of actually just doing it for the better cause, then thats selfish. The detication I see from you, attending most raids and wars is great, but when I see stuff like you making a sig claiming your the best WG awards host, or saying you are WG's best f2p pker, or even you claiming respect for doing the things you do as historian, that is horrible. tl;dr - Don't do the work as historian if you are just doing it for personal gain, do it because you want WG to succeed (I know you do). -------------------- ![]() This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 02:49 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Historian Rank Half op is completely unnecessary for the rank and he's already abused it by kicking me frivolously. DDS on Raids The last time I did something similar I had a suspension or a warning for it. Bias from Leaders Look at this topic... Who else has a topic made about them for this? If I was not a WG member and I heard about a STAFF member running from a DM I would be in heaven. What a perfect way to ruin WG's reputation when they say they're all about honor but their "Historian" can't even maintain it. Every staff member should be a model for WG members to follow. On Tip.It the staff is expected to go above and beyond proper behavior at ALL TIMES. WG should take a lesson from that and not treat misbehavior by the staff as something to be swept under the rug. Along with your posting style, it's completely unacceptable. I've had 1k of my posts removed and multiple warn levels for a posting style the same or better than yours yet you get by without a blemish. This one is more the fault of the staff but since Gene mentioned it. Respect and attitude, respect is earned not given. I had great respect for Keanu when he was on his I'll make an account and train it to meet WG's requirements (weird you must admit but whatever). What changed was that his attitude became unacceptable, nobody likes the person who is "holier than thou" -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 03:02 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: WizardOfGod Group: Banned Posts: 808 Member No.: 2429 Joined: October 13, 2010 Total Events Attended: 40 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I respect this thread, also agree with jayson you shouldn't want a rank to have a rank, but want that rank because of the work that comes with it. The lowest 'clan' rank can have more inuence than a high rank because of his respect of his peers on my iPhone I'll fix this post up when home -------------------- ![]() Finally the #1 fisher in WG :) Wilderness Guardian's Top Fighters F2P Safe- Levylov F2P Dangerous- Levylov P2P Hybridding- Ching P2P Dangerous- Ching P2P Safe- Levylov Wanna take these ranks down join the 1v1 ladder! http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=22029 | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 03:53 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Just be mindful of others always. Never look at things solely from one perspective. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 04:00 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: ZurvivorMan Group: Emeritus Posts: 1098 Member No.: 1528 Joined: December 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 99 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I have no troubles with Keanu, I think he's great a guy the few times i've talked with him. He's doing a great job in WG, but sometimes he can be a bit high on himself. No offence. -------------------- You don't have to feel like a waste of space You're original, cannot be replaced If you only knew what the future holds After a hurricane comes a rainbow Maybe you're reason why all the doors are closed So you can open one that leads you to the perfect road ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 04:01 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Joe I read your post objectively, and continued to scroll down and saw your sig. It is hypocritical of you to question his attitude when your own is in serious doubt. This is not a democratic system. Get it out of your head that punishment should be consistent. We aim to be objective and as consistent for the most part, but this is a dictatorship. I punish with the members' personality in mind; their capacity to change and reconcile, their maturity. Equal punishment doesn't work Joe. For instance, some people take the warn logs seriously - they see that their actions have manifested negatively and they learn from it. Others use the warn levels as currency; there's no learning curve. They take it and wait for them to disappear so they can cause commotion later on. That's why in some exceptional cases, I've not allowed warn levels to decrease. How I've handled Keanu's situation is one of the decisions I'm very proud of. I can see that he's going to do his best to change and to his credit, he's taking our criticism of him and not fighting us every step of the way. He's really listening. If he's listening, then this has been an effective resolution. The reason I don't do this all the time is because I can't think of many people who could have a topic inviting criticism, and then take it all to heart. Most people including myself would get very defensive, and some might close themselves off from WG. For most others, this method would never work, so I'd resort to suspensions or something else to get the point across... but I always start by talking. If they can't be reasoned with, it gets more and more sever until eventually they are forced to leave either by expulsion or being outcast from the clan and deciding to quit. Fortunately for Keanu, despite his other personality shortcomings, he does have the ability to change from conversation. I'm not a jury, I'm a parent. I judge according to what's most effective on a particular person. Get the idea of democracy out of your head. EDIT: If Keanu DDS's on a raid, he'll be given the appropriate warn level. Asfor post count Joe, we've discussed this. Keanu and others post heaps of trash and spam as you are better known for, but they compensate by writing up some quality posts as well. If you had made more posts like the one above, your post count would never have been deducted. EDIT2: Also, Keanu is not staff. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 04:08 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I wouldn't use the word parent, that sorta seems odd to me. Especially with a lot of people being 18+ here and Keanu nearly himself. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 04:14 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 ![]() ![]() ![]() | You get what I'm trying to say. The WG rules are guidelines. The very first paragraph says "use logic to apply the rules and don't take them too literally." That is not the mark of a democratic society. I'd discipline a clan member in a similar way a parent disciplines a child. For some children, you can just open up discussion and they have the maturity to change from it. Others have to be grounded. I am not equally strict on everyone. I'm only strict when strictness is required. This may seem biased, but really it isn't. You can't expect me to treat everyone the same way. You're all really different people. Blanket rules and stock punishments are beaurocratic and were not meant for small internet communities. Larger ones like Tip.it are different. You don't have the opportunity to know everyone. EDIT: This doesn't mean I pretend to be your parent. I realise that most of WG is 18+, but it remains true that everyone needs a unique approach. Rachel is a strong advocate of NOT punishing actually. She talks things through most of the time and I have been watching from the sidelines. Sometimes a big issue can be resolved in a few minutes from discussion. Sometimes it takes weeks or even months (one particular incident I won't name) to get a result. If it were me, I wouldn't have spent those months of discussion. I would have just gone down to a form of punishment ans saved myself the time. But Rachel is very kind and she affords the time. Anyway, back on track. I would think this is what you want - to be weighed according to your own merits and judged as an individual. EDIT2: On a final note, I agree with you Joe that staff always need to set exemplary standards. If we're both in the IRC and free, I'd like to hear your thoughts on where you might think our shortcomings are. I'm not good at taking criticism, but I'll do my best to be objective. -------------------- ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 06:03 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Howcome no one every writes essay posts about me? ![]() -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 09:31 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Slayz0rr Group: Emeritus Posts: 328 Member No.: 2212 Joined: January 12, 2010 Total Events Attended: 97 ![]() ![]() ![]() | All i can say really is that he does not think before he speaks. He will say stuff against the people who like him without considering the consequences he will face, and for some strange reason, In result, He does not have any consequences. this is only my prospective on the situations. I know that me and keanu have problems but i'm willing to look past them if we can mutually apologise for thigns we've both said. Im still not going to overlook the comment about my dog. And we'll never be on level ground until I can, -------------------- Always Going For GOLD ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 09:42 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Im just gonna try to be brief since I should be doing my physics right now. It seems to be a personality/attitude problem that just makes it hard for people to respect you. Things to work on: - Don't brag. No one likes a cocky person. - Don't be an "attention whore" or overly dramatic. - Don't be immature. As a "staff" member, you have to uphold a higher level of responsibility and maturity. - Don't be a glory hound. Everyone wants to be appreciated, but sticking it in peoples faces is not the way to do it. - Be responsible. - Stop doing dumb stuff that makes it easy for people to make fun of you for. Seriously, you make it too easy. - Don't say silly things. Its fine if you do every once in a while, but just know being silly doesn't neccessarily make you more likable. Also know that the more silly you act, the less people will be able to take you seriously. - Act smarter. You're smarter than what you put off. - Don't speak to other clans on behalf of WG. You are not in the position to do so. Not as important, but things that make ME personally want to attack you. - Don't be so naive. Don't assume, don't jump to conclusions. - Don't assume you know more than others. Listen. - Be more realistic. I've heard so many people in the past state long run goals with no plan/knowledge/experience. Things are easier said than done, and ideas mean nothing without the plan and action behind them. - Control yourself more. You often act on impulse and instinct. Best advice I can give you: Listen well, think more, speak less. -------------------- bto ![]() Ex-WG Warlord ![]() "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 10:31 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Ex-Member Posts: 632 Member No.: 2467 Joined: November 27, 2010 Total Events Attended: 26 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Keanu, I think you're a good guy. I won't talk shit but what I can contribute to this thread is: just listen to criticism from your peers. If somebody asks you to bank a DDS, don't hesitate, just do it ![]() Other than that, just think before your actions. Think of the possible consequences, and how others will react to it. Learn from your mistakes. -------------------- Our greatest glory consists of not in never falling, but rising everytime we fall. ![]() ![]() ![]() # MAX # COMBAT # | ||||
Posted: December 8, 2010 11:51 pm ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Keanu, you are so worth any discussion or time that I spend talking to you. I'm always open to help you with whatever you need. Only two things you have done sorta bugged me. One was bragging about giving to WG money. Somehow, to me there is no value to be seen in what a person gives. If I have 30K in the bank and send $50 and another person has $10 in their pocket and sends $10. That second person gave so much more. It is not the amount that you give but that a person gives from their heart. This is something that may help you in all areas of your life. Give always with a cheerful heart. The other thing is when you offend others. Sometimes, you become so defensive that you fail to see the other person's side of it. It is always better to be humble and apologize. It can be as simple as . . . I'm sorry. I'll just agree to us not agreeing on this matter . . . You don't have to be a fake about it, be sincere even if you can't agree with them. Overall, you are an inspiring member that has let me with a feeling of great admiration. I can turn to you when distressed or anxious about something. You are a good friend. I see you make the effort required to do something. You put a lot of time and thought into so many projects. Your intelligent and very likable. I can't see just the bad, I see this wonderful uncut raw diamond in you. Just needs some crafting and polished up to be a rare precious gem of great value. -------------------- ![]() Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~ ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 12:14 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Be humble, you have been given so much, act like you at least deserve what has been awarded to you, not like you are owed it. WG doesn't owe you anything. Consider what you can give from your heart to make WG greater. You are a nice person, act like it. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 12:40 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Kung_man149 Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 1054 Member No.: 2111 Joined: October 30, 2009 Total Events Attended: 79 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Keanu, we're friends and we get along great, I mean you've helped me become the video maker I am today and you've earned my respect by being a dedicated member of WG but there are a few thing's that put me off from hanging out with you on TS or talking to you all that much on IRC and that's the way you brag about what you have, or how you sometimes put people down. Maybe that's something you can work on man, I know you can do it because you have the drive to help WG move forward and you now want to change yourself for that same purpose. So prove everyone wrong and become a better person. -------------------- Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔ <+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour <+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 01:48 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I don't have the time to make a constructive post here. When I'm online and so is Keanu, we'll have our little talk. -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 01:54 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I'll respond more tomorrow after my exam lolz -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 02:25 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ah, yes, thanks for reminding me BTO. I also feel that Keanu posting topics on behalf of WG on RSC personally annoying. If raid leaders / warlord believe a topic should be posted, then they should do it themselves, otherwise, get out of the position. Topics on fan sites should be posted by the leaders themselves, not any member that feels like doing it. I know it shows Keanu's dedication to working hard and going out of his way to help, but it really should be done by the leaders. -------------------- ![]() This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 06:10 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I got half way through this thread and started to get bored. Everyone is just repeating each other. We've picked on Keanu enough, its bad for new members, they come in and see people picking on a another, a staff member no less, they will think it is ok, I did when I joined and I troll'd keanu. Hislordship, Keanu is staff in my eyes, he deserves it a lot more than some others who have been given staff. Anyone who disagrees with that is a joke. Also, about the gloating, everyone gloats, its an ego boost so get over it, Ill give you a prime example of staff/ex-staff gloating; Gorge, (not picking on your gorge but you're a good example) every staff related post has him gloating about his near 3 years as an Event leader and his 18 months as council, and he is allowed to gloat. Keanu worked hard in fixing up WG.com and the clan history, even the summer awards (you were a bit slow with the Awards Keanu). Anyone who actually read this, thanks, I didn't read yours. -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||
Posted: December 9, 2010 06:23 am ![]() | |||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Manuel Group: Clan Friend Posts: 97 Member No.: 2425 Joined: October 11, 2010 Total Events Attended: 29 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
yeah i got bored also, but me im fairly new to the clan and ive never had a problem with keanu he seems like a nice guy to talk to never trolled him or anything, but ive always wondered why people hated him like people always talked behind his back i always asked but people like never really answered me i really didnt get. idk if its just me being new but i hardly see any of things u guys talk about, like him being cocky stuff like that, anyways just saying yeah i agree with wat u said there, its wierd comming into a clan and seeing everyone in the clan picking on one member. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||