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 Free to play numbers mentallity.
Posted: December 28, 2010 11:54 pmTop
   
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Ok, well I've been TRYING to get people to do some f2p with me and people are always saying "We won't have enough"
Now here's the thing, how do we expect ourselves to be successful in p2p without doing some f2p as well.
A vast majority of the top clans do f2p as well and that's one of the reason's they're top clans.
Now I suggest we get OVER this number's mentality we have now and start raiding in f2p more often to build up our ability to listen properly and to stop relying on numbers, because honestly it's getting annoying.
 
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Posted: December 28, 2010 11:55 pmTop
   
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How the hell will we have enough when you ask me to make a F2P fight at 3 AM
 
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Posted: December 28, 2010 11:56 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Kyle @ December 28, 2010 06:55 pm)
How the hell will we have enough when you ask me to make a F2P fight at 3 AM

Not asking you for that right now, now am I? lol
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 12:26 amTop
   
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RoT only started F2P when DI closed, at that point they were already #1.
DI only ever entered F2P once a year, and after they took their first loss they left.

Their success came from focusing on one aspect (i.e. P2P), not both.

Oh, and F2P sucks.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 12:29 amTop
   
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To be honest, I personally like certain aspects of F2P.
I think that even if people think it sucks, we should try and do it. Hell, we might get really good and start kicking some asses? Possibly? Maybe?
Eh. You go to work everyday even if you don't like it because you wanna get paid.
Let's go to F2P wars and kick some ass even if we don't like it because we're in this for the greater good of The Wilderness Guardians.

I'm all for F2P as long as these damn wars aren't during my DAMN work schedule.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 12:44 amTop
   
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Inb4 "EFF TEE PEE HAS CROOSHAL SKILLZ WE MOOST LURN" from half the clan, I say we do both and get a balance.
I like both.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 12:45 amTop
   
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I'm a P2P Fag, always will be. I'm never worried about numbers in F2P no matter how much it matters. It is just so boring. Just hit, hit, bind, hit hit, bind. Tedious shit.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 01:44 amTop
   
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Meh. P2p is just more of a rush when Pking, F2p is too easy imo.
 
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QUOTE: Mark @ December 29, 2010 12:45 am)
I'm a P2P Fag, always will be. I'm never worried about numbers in F2P no matter how much it matters. It is just so boring. Just hit, hit, bind, hit hit, bind. Tedious shit.

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Posted: December 29, 2010 05:29 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Zooby69 @ December 28, 2010 08:44 pm)
Meh. P2p is just more of a rush when Pking, F2p is too easy imo.

If it's so easy than we wouldn't have lost our last two F2P wars.

I agree with you, Kung. We need to do more F2P. Not raids, but wars. Actual, planned wars. CWA fights are boring yeah but we need to do them for practice, the fun fights at GDs come later when we actually know what we're doing.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 05:56 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Aragon @ December 29, 2010 12:29 am)
QUOTE: Zooby69 December 28, 2010 08:44 pm
Meh. P2p is just more of a rush when Pking, F2p is too easy imo.

If it's so easy than we wouldn't have lost our last two F2P wars.

I agree with you, Kung. We need to do more F2P. Not raids, but wars. Actual, planned wars. CWA fights are boring yeah but we need to do them for practice, the fun fights at GDs come later when we actually know what we're doing.

We won two of our last three recent f2p wars.

Won:

1. WG + TS vs. TR + IQ

2. WG vs. CK

Lost:

1. WG vs. Coll

And we beat CK and TR/IQ in matched fights.

Also Collision is the longest time ago of those wars, so we are 2 for 2 in our last 2 f2p wars.

I agree we need f2p fights. We need the experience, but f2p pk trips is a different thing entirely, and I'm sorry but you NEED numbers to pk in f2p unless you plan on either being very bored or getting raped. Just a fact of the matter Kung.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 06:28 amTop
   


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Well, we are a P2p&F2p based clan so, yes.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 08:31 amTop
   
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Posted: December 29, 2010 10:18 amTop
   
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F2P can be fun... But not these days. In order for F2P to be exciting, we need a good 20 people, we need to be deep, and there needs to be people(singles and small teams) to fight.

Back in the old wildy, that was possible - There are a number of videos from when I joined showing interesting fights - even if we lost it could be fun: I have a video from the -day- I joined, where WG fought a large team west of Gds - HavocAngel and Loserman3k were the only survivors from that, and tanked the entire remaining team out of the wilderness.

Now, more recently, action in F2P has all but disappeared, just like in P2P - At -best- you will find a few kids waiting around BH, and it's hard enough in P2P to kill them - F2P would be a complete nightmare.

I suggest waiting on anything F2P until a at least after the old Wildy comes back; There should be plenty of PKers out there, and we'll take them easy - P2P may end up being hard until we get more numbers, as "CC" clans have huge amounts of amateur PKers(They may be easy to kill one-on-one, but 30 newbs vs 10 WG... we'll lose).


 
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Imo F2P raids are kinda lame and boring now days. But I still do like some F2P wars/raids/run ins.
PKing low (around BH) just sucks in F2P but if we go high we will get cleared by bigger clans.

So lets wait for the update and maybe we can PK like the old days and just get a track on some smaller teams/clans.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 11:42 amTop
   
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Posted: December 29, 2010 02:36 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Dieyou2000 @ December 29, 2010 12:56 am)
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QUOTE: Zooby69  December 28, 2010 08:44 pm
Meh. P2p is just more of a rush when Pking, F2p is too easy imo.

If it's so easy than we wouldn't have lost our last two F2P wars.

I agree with you, Kung. We need to do more F2P. Not raids, but wars. Actual, planned wars. CWA fights are boring yeah but we need to do them for practice, the fun fights at GDs come later when we actually know what we're doing.

We won two of our last three recent f2p wars.

Won:

1. WG + TS vs. TR + IQ

2. WG vs. CK

Lost:

1. WG vs. Coll

And we beat CK and TR/IQ in matched fights.

Also Collision is the longest time ago of those wars, so we are 2 for 2 in our last 2 f2p wars.

I agree we need f2p fights. We need the experience, but f2p pk trips is a different thing entirely, and I'm sorry but you NEED numbers to pk in f2p unless you plan on either being very bored or getting raped. Just a fact of the matter Kung.

The ones I were at we lost (Poison being one of them). If the CK war is the one where they pulled 7 people, how can you even consider that to be a war? It takes no skill whatesoever when you outnumber them by so much.

See, when we outnumbered a clan like Poison by 4-6 we lost because it was just a mess. The legitimate fights need work, becuase honestly Poison aren't that good at these types of things.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 05:25 pmTop
   
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No CK pulled around 14 and afterwards we had a matched fight afterwards which we still won as I said in my first post.
 
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I don't pay to play this game - only to confine myself to the free aspects. I attend all the F2P mandatory events when I can, and am yet to enjoy one. I will continue to attend if we keep hosting them. But, as soon as there are any votes, ALWAYS VOTING P2P. F2p is slow, simple and above all, too boring. It's always the same, with a much restricted game play.

To sum up: I don't enjoy it, but will always continue to attend if I must.
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 06:41 pmTop
   
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tanking in f2p is more fun imo, because your skills help you, in p2p its just shark brew pray, and that gets old.

i dont mind f2p wars, i do mind f2p pvp because the loots sucks and we take forever for a kill unless were maging, but if were maging we will get sniped and have to pray, and there arent any pray pots in f2p, so i get mad.
 
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tanking in f2p is more fun imo, because your skills help you, in p2p its just shark brew pray, and that gets old.

Found the problem, Brew -> Rocktail*
 
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Posted: December 29, 2010 08:19 pmTop
   
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tanking in f2p is more fun imo, because your skills help you, in p2p its just shark brew pray, and that gets old.

Found the problem, Brew -> Rocktail*

I dont even take brews lawl.
 
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Posted: December 30, 2010 06:27 amTop
   
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F2P is not fun without the numbers, anything less than 20 people and you'll walk up to GDZ, and get ripped by a bigger clan.. You're not going to find small teams in F2P like you would in P2P, F2P is big clans with a lot of members and big banks to back up the return sets.. Just saying tongue.gif
 
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F2P is not fun without the numbers, anything less than 20 people and you'll walk up to GDZ, and get ripped by a bigger clan.. You're not going to find small teams in F2P like you would in P2P, F2P is big clans with a lot of members and big banks to back up the return sets.. Just saying tongue.gif

That's why clans our size don't go looking for trouble by walking around, instead set up planned fights that occur at GDs with clans our side like Foresaken.
 
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Posted: December 30, 2010 06:04 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Zooby69  December 28, 2010 08:44 pm
Meh. P2p is just more of a rush when Pking, F2p is too easy imo.

If it's so easy than we wouldn't have lost our last two F2P wars.

I agree with you, Kung. We need to do more F2P. Not raids, but wars. Actual, planned wars. CWA fights are boring yeah but we need to do them for practice, the fun fights at GDs come later when we actually know what we're doing.

We won two of our last three recent f2p wars.

Won:

1. WG + TS vs. TR + IQ

2. WG vs. CK

Lost:

1. WG vs. Coll

And we beat CK and TR/IQ in matched fights.

Also Collision is the longest time ago of those wars, so we are 2 for 2 in our last 2 f2p wars.

I agree we need f2p fights. We need the experience, but f2p pk trips is a different thing entirely, and I'm sorry but you NEED numbers to pk in f2p unless you plan on either being very bored or getting raped. Just a fact of the matter Kung.

That's where you're wrong in a sense Dieyou, in order to get more experience as well we can't always rely on numbers and that's all I've been seeing in this thread "Oh, we can't do it unless we have 20+ people."
I've seen clans do f2p with smaller teams then we usually pull and they managed this shit just fine, I don't see what the problem is.
Maybe if more members came to F2P raids it would be more fun though.
 
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