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 Goodbye Keanu
Posted: January 8, 2011 01:51 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: rachellove
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I'm to sad to say much. I was pretty harsh with him. I'm not a perfect leader and I hope I don't leave WG down to often.

Please read his link, if you care to know more.

My Webpage by Keanu

Please be respectful to Gene and myself, we both will feel bad about this. Please don't flame Keanu. I've suspended him for his behavior and he can't read and respond anyway. I really don't want drama.

If you can't be respectful, simply say Goodbye.

Thanks
Rachy


 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 01:59 amTop
   
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Interesting read.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:03 amTop
   


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Deleted Aragons post, it was un needed
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:03 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Aragon January 07, 2011 08:55 pm
Good.

You're a dick. Keep comments like this to yourself. Totally unnecessary and not needed on a thread like this.

I'm re-reading this again and again, something doesn't make sense. I don't understand.

EDIT:
He meets the requirements. A requirement isn't: 'Go train at AZS 5 hours a day'.
The hours of work he puts in FOR WG. We need the history, wiki etc. Read applicant's intros, they do really read it.
He's active in game. He's active in IRC. He attends events, both RL and in game.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.

He gets a lot of s**t, but it's only from a select group. Not the 70 odd people he associated it with.

Don't like this. He will be missed.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:04 amTop
   
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I'm not a dick. This was more than necessary. You probably have no idea what Keanu did to me.

I am not the kind of person to just hate people and disrespect somebody for no reason. You have to earn disrespect from me, which Keanu did.

Today I got 99 Firemaking. I worked really hard for it. After the Guard event I took everybody up north and got the level. Keanu planted flowers everywhere I was trying to get the level, and I missed all of the spam everybody had typed up because everybody pressed enter when I counted down to 1. Keanu planted flowers MULTIPLE times when I tried to get the level, and messed up everything. That on top of:

- Bringing DDS on Raids multiple times for absolutely ridiculous reasons
- Leaving Raids because not given voice on TS
- Having complete and udder disrespect for Council members by making inappropriate comments
- Bragging about nearly everything and thinks of himself highly out loud
- Acting like he outranks council members (i.e. 420 war)
- Hiding at a war so we wouldn't drop him, yet he warred over people who deserved to war more than he did (i.e somebody who was 94 mage dropped and he's 70 mage) refer to the Collision war.
- Never having the minimum amount of sets, or a good combat level.

It's good to see his dedication to the clan's history but the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to his membership to this clan.

Goodbye Keanu, hopefully if you decide to come back you will think before your actions and be a bit more mature.

edit: If you read the little memo he made, he said this:

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So, let's talk recent. I ruined Aragon's 99 FM today. Who gave me the mental idea to do that?
http://www.wildernessguardians.com/photos/...0/img/epdd2.png
You did, WG. Maybe mine wasn't a 99 achievement but that ^ told me not to take level ups and congratulations seriously.


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He ruined my party because of something I had absolutely nothing to do with. I am the Mage standing out with gold boots to the west. Maybe people can understand why I'm pissed off now. Instead of apologizing he tries to act innocent.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:18 amTop
   


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This is only because he always wants to be the center of attention.

He was going to be cut from a war so he something stupid simply for attention.
Aragon was getting 99 fm and he wanted to put the attention on himself so he ruined it.
The historian rank? Attention.
This being the most dramatic leaving post story ever... Attention.

Edit: Aragon made a better list.

Put the clan above yourself and you'll earn its respect.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:20 amTop
   


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although i was against a lot of dicesions keanu made, i still liked him.
keanu has done a lot for wg involving making the clan history and things like those.
i admire the dedictation keanu had and i don't think this should have ended like this.

goodbye keanu=(
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:24 amTop
   


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Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:25 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Aragon @ January 07, 2011 09:04 pm)
- Acting like he outranks council members (i.e. 420 war)

- Never having the minimum amount of sets, or a good combat level.

I don't agree with these,

1, Keanu said he had the councils backing up on organising this war and if he didn't i'm sure the council would have said something.

2, The clan has requirements for "100+ F2P" i've seen Keanu training at bandits within the past month while i've been on my way to switch onto ancients.

He has been training, just because he isn't a high a level as you doesn't mean hes a "bad" combat level. Maybe he doesn't have the required amount of sets but not everyone has a huge amount of money in the bank.

Keanu doesn't get much respect and all the banter about telling him to "go train" is a bit of fun but then people take it too far and I don't think he deserves all these comments. Especially when hes leaving.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:26 amTop
   
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I'm agreeing with Randy at this point.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:26 amTop
   
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I'm not going to argue with you Dan. We are all entitled to our own opinions.

e: I didn't mean so much combat level as a bad thing, just something he needed to work on. The sets is mainly what I'm talking about, although that still isn't as much of a factor as the other things I listed.
 
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# MAX # COMBAT #

Posted: January 8, 2011 02:27 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Rodney75 @ January 07, 2011 10:24 pm)
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?

I don't see why a 3 page story about how he's a victim is necessary, ESPECIALLY when he's clearly wrong. If he got suspended and wrote a 3 page apology then I would be a bit nicer.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:31 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Randy January 08, 2011 02:18 am
This is only because he always wants to be the center of attention.

He was going to be cut from a war so he something stupid simply for attention.
Aragon was getting 99 fm and he wanted to put the attention on himself so he ruined it.
The historian rank? Attention.
This being the most dramatic leaving post story ever... Attention.

Edit: Aragon made a better list.

Put the clan above yourself and you'll earn its respect.

I called it yet again. Maybe people should listen instead of deleting my posts. I can recall quite a few examples with people who did nothing but seek attention, it always comes down to the same pattern.
Oh well, that's the way it goes.

QUOTE: Rodney75 January 08, 2011 02:24 am
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?


I've already seen people's replies. He's causing more drama and attention seeking with the 3 page rant, wrong way to go if you want less drama. tface.gif
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:32 amTop
   
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If he actually did all the stuff that he did for the glory of WG, not himself, he wouldn't be pissing so many people off.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:33 amTop
   


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QUOTE: Randy January 07, 2011 09:27 pm
       
QUOTE: Rodney75  January 07, 2011 10:24 pm
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?

I don't see why a 3 page story about how he's a victim is necessary, ESPECIALLY when he's clearly wrong. If he got suspended and wrote a 3 page apology then I would be a bit nicer.

I'm not asking for false-ness, or for people to pretend nice. I'n not defending him either.

Keanu was always going to have a complex-drama full leaving topic-post-thing. It wouldn't be in his character otherwise. But he's leaving, can't we respect the things he did for this clan, rather than the messy-stuff? I do understand your points. But I really wouldn't like to see all this if I ever left WG. We're WG, we have a nice community. Just want to respect that.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:45 amTop
   


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Ok. Wasn't here to argue or defend anyone. Just to try keep a nice community leaving post. I'm off this thread.

Goodbye Keanu. Thank you for what you've done for us. I will remember the work you have done. Good luck wherever you go from here.

edit: Didn't double post, a post got deleted. Kinda relevant and irrelevant now..
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 02:46 amTop
   
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This is very close to being locked.
 
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Thank you Garrett and Dallar.
“The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems
is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
~~Colin Powell ~~

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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:06 amTop
   
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He'll be back.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:07 amTop
   
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I saw this on my Iphone and i made sure i would come onto my laptop to post.

This is a tough issue.

On one hand, he was a slacking member who didnt have sets, bragged about that fact. Showed no intention to train to improve for raids/wars. Always broke rules such as gear requirements on raids. And often was an attention seeking person who's only intention was to keep the spotlight on him.

However.

His detication to non pvp matters was second to only lordy himself.

When comparing members who made a difference to WG, Keanu would surely be up there. His work on making the clan more public and easier to access as well as applying was excellent.

But his need for attention and power will be his downfall.

Had he not wanted to be a 'stand out' member and just did the work it could have been alot better for him.

Goodbye Keanu, you'll be missed.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:16 amTop
   
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Actually it's better this happened sooner rather than later.
He did not have the capacity to change.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:19 amTop
   
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Well I don't particularly like this ugly thread but goodbye Keanu. You did some good and some bad things. Guess I'll try to remember the good now that you are gone.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:26 amTop
   
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I liked him and I'll miss him..

But the historian rank was wrong.. Just wrong..


 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:31 amTop
   
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Goodbye.

I am so confused that I don't even know what to say.

You had amazing intentions at least.
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:38 amTop
   
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Honestly, it was for the better and for the worse. Keanu does work for WG, but then again what randy said, "he wants attention", and that's something he needs to improve to avoid happening. I don't blame the kid, but sometime I just want to choke him for even saying stupid shit. You can't help this to be honest. Not trying to be messed up, just saying what I've been seeing out of him. He hasn't been himself.

Keanu good luck in future stuff and go max out!


-Joey
 
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Posted: January 8, 2011 03:44 amTop
   
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i have mixed feelings, im pretty sure hes not leaving
but im also pretty sure he wont change, which is what most of us want
 
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