WG is was still an AR-PKing clan. It's part of our history. It would help them to know that.
 
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That used to be the case when you had to apply on the clan website. It was like minimum 100 words for why you want to join.
 
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That used to be the case when you had to apply on the clan website. It was like minimum 100 words for why you want to join.

Word limits on app answers have been opposed, and I do agree in a way. If you say "you must write 100 words" people will try to write 100 words, but it may mean that their idea's get diluted while they try to fill it up to the minimum.

I like to explain my idea's fully, but some just like to give a basic overview in fewer words so word limits are detrimental for them.

Allot at the moment is left up to the Application manager's to decide, and I like it that way because their judgement is generally good.
 
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That used to be the case when you had to apply on the clan website. It was like minimum 100 words for why you want to join.

Word limits on app answers have been opposed, and I do agree in a way. If you say "you must write 100 words" people will try to write 100 words, but it may mean that their idea's get diluted while they try to fill it up to the minimum.

I like to explain my idea's fully, but some just like to give a basic overview in fewer words so word limits are detrimental for them.

Allot at the moment is left up to the Application manager's to decide, and I like it that way because their judgement is generally good.

The benefits of having a minimum limit are far more better than the benefits of not having a limit.

There could always be a compromised solution between the two.
 
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I personally dont support the idea of the clan voting on letting a particular member. Often only the council has a true picture of the impact a member has had within the clan, and some members are in unusual timezones which means they may not be seen as active even when they are.

If the mentoring system returns I would look at a forum (or subforum in the graduation forum), with a thread on each member to discuss positive or negative incidents regarding trial member's untill they graduate (which would then be added into an archive once they graduate). This would give members a more private way to express their feelings regarding their graduation, be they good or bad.

I do feel that member's oppinions are incredibly important when considering a Graduation, however at the moment there is really no way for them to express them without letting the trial member in question see it as well. Since at the end of the day members have to get along with new applicants we should aim to find a better way to include them.

~Evil
 
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Most Mature & Most Honourable
Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus
Placeholder lolz

I personally dont support the idea of the clan voting on letting a particular member. Often only the council has a true picture of the impact a member has had within the clan, and some members are in unusual timezones which means they may not be seen as active even when they are.

If the mentoring system returns I would look at a forum (or subforum in the graduation forum), with a thread on each member to discuss positive or negative incidents regarding trial member's untill they graduate (which would then be added into an archive once they graduate). This would give members a more private way to express their feelings regarding their graduation, be they good or bad.

I do feel that member's oppinions are incredibly important when considering a Graduation, however at the moment there is really no way for them to express them without letting the trial member in question see it as well. Since at the end of the day members have to get along with new applicants we should aim to find a better way to include them.

~Evil

Actually thinking about it now, it is pretty true. I've experienced some faults with voting systems, where members get influenced by what others comment and went "If it's true what XXX says, then I vote no".

What you suggested (in yellow) is pretty cool, it allows members to bring up issues they have with Trials or commend them. Then the council should have the final say on whether they graduate or not based on our inputs.

One thing though. I dont believe "only the council has a true picture of the impact a member has had within the clan", like you said, hah. Thing is, I noticed that a number of our members judge people heavily on their activity only. Look at the WG Seasonal Awards for example, lol.

I believe this shouldn't be the case. We need to really look at the overall picture, the activity, the contributions and involvement, the attitude and so on. A few of us already practice this though. Gotta preach this shiate to everyone else in the clan!
 
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Patience is good in this clan though. There alot of things in this clans that require it. I think that patient members are needed in this clan. It minimises fueds among people because they are having to wait for something. Like when we were doing realy bad with our wars. People didn't have enough patience to stick around.
 
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Patience is good in this clan though. There alot of things in this clans that require it. I think that patient members are needed in this clan. It minimises fueds among people because they are having to wait for something. Like when we were doing realy bad with our wars. People didn't have enough patience to stick around.

They didn't leave them because of Patience,
They left because they thought there deserved better for less work.

As Tmal said, Patience is just one aspect, there are so many more things that a Members should have, Patience being miniscule compared to any others.
 
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They wouldn't need to be extremely close for that Sponsorship.

But a set number of Sponsors would have to reply to their 'Graduation'.
I did set it relativly high in my suggestion but that number could always be altered.

The Member wouldn't have to ask each of the Sponsors personally,
But just like some of us Filter through Intro's and post on the Topics, Members would look thorugh the Graduation forums as suck and post, being one of their sponsors, including their Analysis of the Member (Why they chose to Sponsor them).

Tallying the Sponsors and Promoting to an Official Guardian could be part of the App Manager Position.
 
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I agree.

Ya know, most people join a clan to have fun, but the thing is, we don't want people to stop having fun for writing an essay. Like myself, not everyone is a talented writer. Long word requirements can be a put off to a lot of people, although they may have a lot more to offer than words.

However, there is a line on the word requirements. "I want to join and have fun" is not acceptable. Something short and sweet but right to the point can say just as much as an essay filled with things that are not important.
 
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I agree.

Ya know, most people join a clan to have fun, but the thing is, we don't want people to stop having fun for writing an essay. Like myself, not everyone is a talented writer. Long word requirements can be a put off to a lot of people, although they may have a lot more to offer than words.

However, there is a line on the word requirements. "I want to join and have fun" is not acceptable. Something short and sweet but right to the point can say just as much as an essay filled with things that are not important.

True enough, application processes - where someone comes in and applies to join the clan, shouldn't need to be changed. Essays and stuff are a tad too much but what happened to the discussion I had with Evil? About how the graduations need to change?
(Replies No. 9,10 & 12)

Tmal responded, Spicy mentioned something regarding the use of referrals for promotions and graduations. That's cool. However, although this encourages Trials to get to know full members, I see it potentially being abused just like how current applicants need people to add for their screenshots. How they'd go up to a random member,go "Hi, ref me plz. Much love <333" and there you go- the process becomes redundant.

Also, personally, about the part Spicy said on 'Applying' for promotions - I feel it is rather queer. Promotions should be come as rewards for what one has done, you shouldn't be applying for em, lol.


P.S. I hope people actually read posts in between. I take time to actually read through what people say, think and post a reply, it can get disappointing when people don't, lol.
 
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