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 Why I Changed My Mind On TBK
Posted: March 1, 2011 04:44 pmTop
   
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For a very long time I have been defending TBK.
Many WG members were in favour of hitting them, though Rachel and I weren't.
We tried to maintain peace, but in the last 24 hours, things have changed a lot.

Keanu has announced to TBK that WG is its formal enemy.

Here's what happened.
Kung organises a mass to hit TBK in the wild.
This is a legit thing that all PVP clans do.
Keanu fails to realise that all clans get hunted in PVP.
Naturally it worsens relations with TBK, because the two clans are connected.
(If it were any other clan, he wouldn't kick up a fuss)

WG remains honourable through all these actions.
1. He was hunted with a track. We did not betray any trust - no members were tagging along.
2. With the exception of one member, there was no flaming or threats
3. We fought with proper gear and the usual codes of honour

When Keanu got sour over this, he contacted me... making several demands.

"We will give you neutrality if you do these things for us:
1. Alain must apologise for the hit publicly
2. You must pay the exact amount we lost in gear, 447k.
3. You must promise never to attack us in the wild unless we ask for a fight.


When I pointed out how ridiculous his terms were, he called us dishonourable.
WG offering them peace has no benefit to us at all. It was a favour.
They were acting like they were giving us this amazing gift.
In fact, he should have been pleading us for it, not demanding it.

After I pointed out that he had been mocking us, calling us dishonourable etc... we became rivals. They will be seeking to bring us down.
We will therefore be acting in a preventative way by hunting them more regularly.

We will remain honourable while we do this, which means:
1. We will not RPK them if they are stupid enough to skill in the wild (don't put it past them)
2. We will not crash planned fights
3. We will not flame or threaten at all

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So now that they are full blown enemies, I might as well share this.

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I was hoping to convince Keanu to stop Justin from poisoning TBK, but no point now.
Justin, of course, is the source of most hatred WG directs toward TBK.
Together, he and TBK are forming very strong anti-WG sentiments.

We have no choice but to put pressure on them before they grow strong enough to hurt us.
The earlier we act, the less trouble we will have.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 04:49 pmTop
   
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Oh well, if he wants to be a dick about it he can get whats coming to him. And TS don't even PK so there goes his plan.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 04:57 pmTop
   
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Keanu should know, TS only really raid with Us. like mark said.

And tbh they have really under estimated TS. Interesting chat read though.

They're pumped and quite mad. I popped in there IRC yesterday and just wanted a nice chat, all they'd do is call WG scum and flamers, and try and give me Bullshit. So i just said, Say what you want and left.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 04:58 pmTop
   


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http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=21150
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:00 pmTop
   
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[21:59] <TBK_Amethyst> I'm readily willing to agree on neutrality, but I still feel this is one-sided
[21:59] <@Lordy|AFK> you couldn't possibly
[21:59] <@Lordy|AFK> we have what to gain from neutrality?
[22:00] <@Lordy|AFK> we lose the opportunity to kill people and have our revenge on justin
[22:00] <Kung_man149> From neutrality nothing has the possibility of growth.
[22:00] <@Lordy|AFK> we gain... pretty much one thing. we stop getting pestered by tbk
[22:00] <TBK_Amethyst> Pestered?
[22:00] <@Lordy|AFK> you have everything to gain. your clan gets to flourish
[22:01] <@Lordy|AFK> say we remained enemies, i bet tbk wouldn't just plainly ignore us, would they
[22:01] <TBK_Amethyst> Of course not
[22:01] <Kung_man149> Which would give TBK the chance to grow.
[22:01] <@Lordy|AFK> hence, the interference with wg's routine
[22:02] <TBK_Amethyst> I know what the outcomes of neutrality and enemies would be
[22:02] <@Lordy|AFK> not being interefered with is our gain... our only gain from this whole thing
[22:02] <@Lordy|AFK> if anything is one-sided, it is toward you
[22:02] <TBK_Amethyst> The bottom line is WG members acted aggressively based on rumour and discussion, and you cannot deny that that is unfair
[22:02] <@Lordy|AFK> you have far, far more to benefit from a neutrality agreement
[22:02] <@Lordy|AFK> it was an early strike and not in defense
[22:02] <@Lordy|AFK> i've apologised to you for it already
[22:03] <@Lordy|AFK> but i'm not going any further than that because i shouldn't have to
[22:03] <@Lordy|AFK> if peace between us involves wg paying you for lost sets, then we have no pride
[22:04] <TBK_Amethyst> Ok, you apologised to me personally, however Alain organised the hunt
[22:04] <Kung_man149> I'd rather not pay out set's I could use in a fight.
[22:04] <TBK_Amethyst> I won't ask for sets, I've decided against that
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[22:42] <TBK_Amethyst> Remember how Crucio was banned for attacking a WG member when he was an ex-member?
[22:42] <TBK_Amethyst> Now it's the other way around - WG members attacked an ex-member
[22:42] <@Lordy|AFK> cut to the chase will you
[22:43] <@Lordy|AFK> i have no time to indulge in this
[22:43] <TBK_Amethyst> I'm saying that you can always argue logic and fact and it will always benefit you
[22:43] <@Lordy|AFK> what is your point. what are you trying to say?
[22:43] <@Lordy|AFK> that wg has questionable honour?
[22:43] <TBK_Amethyst> I'm saying you know the difference between right and wrong, and it falls to you to take action
[22:44] <TBK_Amethyst> So say to me now, with that in mind, Alain did the right thing in hunting us
[22:44] <@Lordy|AFK> action has been taken. we're enemies
[22:44] <TBK_Amethyst> not because he could, because he was RIGHT to do so
[22:44] <@Lordy|AFK> he was right. he didn't attack a wg member did he? not like crucio
[22:44] <@Lordy|AFK> there is no right or wrong
[22:45] <@Lordy|AFK> only the illusion of it
[22:45] <@Lordy|AFK> now stop getting philosophical with me
[22:45] <@Lordy|AFK> you are questioning our honour. that is what it boils down to
[22:45] <@Lordy|AFK> i have no further reason to defend our honour code with you
[22:45] <TBK_Amethyst> I always believe there is right and wrong

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I went into TBK's lobby to see if things were being said and I found this little beauty.
[23:20] <@TBK_Amethyst> Question for you
[23:20] <+Average> hm
[23:20] <@TBK_Amethyst> Do you believe in right and wrong?
[23:20] <+Average> Yes why
[23:21] <@TBK_Amethyst> It's concerning our terms with WG
[23:21] <@TBK_Amethyst> They don't, according to His Lordship
^There's more following this.

[23:21] <+Average> Ok
[23:21] <+Average> AH I see
[23:22] <+Average> So, what's goin on?
[23:23] <@TBK_Amethyst> They've declared enemy stance
[23:23] <+Average> I see
[23:23] <+Average> What are we going to do?
[23:23] <WG_DarkLight> By insulting The Wilderness guardians stance on Free game on pker's and clans, TBK has earned an enemy with WG.
[23:24] <@TBK_Amethyst> Alain, by WG not believeing in right and wrong, TBK is quite glad to agree on that.
[23:24] <WG_DarkLight> Right and Wrong?
[23:25] <WG_DarkLight> Right is attacking those who are out looking for a fight.
[23:25] <WG_DarkLight> Wrong is attacking skillers and those out doing clues.
[23:25] <WG_DarkLight> TBK is generally out pking.
[23:25] <WG_DarkLight> Therefore is free game.
[23:25] <@TBK_Amethyst> Alain, can you honestly call a 105+ clan hunting a 70+ clan with half your members "right"?
[23:26] <WG_DarkLight> By insulting that stance TBK has earned WG as an enemy.
[23:26] <WG_DarkLight> Hunting is hunting.
[23:26] <WG_DarkLight> Many clans go out hunting for other clans.
[23:26] <WG_DarkLight> It's a matter of survival.
[23:26] <@TBK_Amethyst> Yet what happened to WG believing in fair play?
[23:26] <@TBK_Amethyst> You'd rather hunt us instead of fight someone your own size?
[23:26] <WG_DarkLight> Albeit us attacking you was slightly overpowered, but still fair play.
[23:27] <WG_DarkLight> Size doesn't matter.
[23:27] <@TBK_Amethyst> Oh, so RoT could declare on WG and call it fair play?
[23:27] <WG_DarkLight> Pretty much.
[23:27] <@TBK_Amethyst> Bullshit
[23:28] <@TBK_Amethyst> There is no fairness in that
[23:28] <@TBK_Amethyst> "Fair" is when both sides have equal opportunities
^Now, note the fact of what he said.
At the time of the Hit TBK had 8 members to our 11, they could have easily fought back and taken a few of us out if coordinated enough.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:04 pmTop
   
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Alain posted a tiny snippet of the Keanu conversation. I think that was right before he called us NH.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:05 pmTop
   


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finally.....lets end his clan..
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:05 pmTop
   


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Why did he mention Assassins of Shadows? That's my old clan - UBG led it. Had nothing against WG.... ???
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:08 pmTop
   
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I remember your awesome website and your tribute to the WG bookshelf lol.
I liked AoS.

Keanu has a twisted record of our rivals.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:09 pmTop
   
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Next time they have a All-out raid (3 opts) I'm hit them solo.

Keanu will cry if he gets beat by a 112 >>
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:17 pmTop
   
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LETS KILL THIS CLAN
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:35 pmTop
   


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And Keanu wondered why people disliked him.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:38 pmTop
   
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I just read that all, lets put and end to this clan, honour or no honour this guy is just annoying now
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 05:51 pmTop
   
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not like they'll go p2p, so meh
 
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Best pker + most mature summer awards 2011

Posted: March 1, 2011 06:19 pmTop
   
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Keanu has wanted this since the moment he left WG.

Lets show him how stupid he is to think he can take us on.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 06:22 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ March 01, 2011 12:35 pm)
And Keanu wondered why people disliked him.

I was going to say that #


Oh well lets run em' to the ground now guys & gals.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 06:38 pmTop
   
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I've defended Keanu throughout this but now this has all made me very angry.
I quote the new film 'The Social Network' - 'Let's fricking gut the nerd'.

WG has never been defeated yet, by all those clans listed above and furthermore, every spin off clan from WG has always ended in disaster, and most of those has better leaders than Justin and Keanu, so once again WG will conquer. The odds of him winning are so against him it's hardly worth thinking about!

Some free rune would be nice though lol biggrin.gif

Also, Keanu says he wants to hurt us. How will he hurt us if we don't do F2P and just do P2P? Lol again.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 06:41 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: George @ March 01, 2011 01:38 pm)
I've defended Keanu throughout this but now this has all made me very angry.
I quote the new film 'The Social Network' - 'Let's fricking gut the nerd'.

WG has never been defeated yet, by all those clans listed above and furthermore, every spin off clan from WG has always ended in disaster, and most of those has better leaders than Justin and Keanu, so once again WG will conquer. The odds of him winning are so against him it's hardly worth thinking about!

Some free rune would be nice though lol biggrin.gif

Also, Keanu says he wants to hurt us. How will he hurt us if we don't do F2P and just do P2P? Lol again.

The point here is doing f2p only to hit them to the point that we completely and utterly destroy them.
We can still do P2p as normal.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 06:46 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: creeper975 @ March 01, 2011 01:19 pm)
Keanu has wanted this since the moment he left WG.

Lets show him how stupid he is to think he can take us on.

yah i definatly agree. idk why hes acting like this. pretty surprising tbh
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 06:47 pmTop
   
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P2P is dead anyway, only pure clans or top 3 to fight now. Oh and Welf....


They're asking for it, lets give it them.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 07:16 pmTop
   
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Oh baby! Hell yes! Here we go!


Somebody should have told them earlier:

You better check yourself better you wreck yourself.

Too late now, bad idea on their part haha, WG is best!

 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 07:28 pmTop
   
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Just out of his channel there, and made me realise even more why everyone hates Keanu.

Its how he comes across all high and mighty when really acts like a child.

Lets end this clan. Now!
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 07:42 pmTop
   


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Im with it keanu is a pussy.
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 08:05 pmTop
   
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Interesting read, should be some fun fights against them,
 
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Posted: March 1, 2011 08:32 pmTop
   
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Lets rock their World!!
 
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