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Posted: April 13, 2011 02:33 am  | |||||||||
     IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343    | lolz -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 03:16 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Lefty Group: Emeritus Posts: 3340 Member No.: 1055 Joined: June 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 211 | Joe for fall in leader. Epic idea though. I think this method would change the ways of warring immensely. --------------------      | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 03:17 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | Would take a good bit of organisation and such, in some cases it might be harder to find the pile as fast. Could work, probably only good for big pkris where our fi leaders are constantly dying though. Or maybe we should just get more raid leaders  , we only have 2 warlords 1 raid leader? --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 03:38 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 | I suggested this at a war once but no it wasn't exactly encouraged. /facedesk -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum!   | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 05:15 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Kcross|RDC Group: Banned Posts: 2535 Member No.: 1723 Joined: February 16, 2009 Total Events Attended: 202 |
It's doesn't seem logical, nor easy, to start using that method on a moment's notice. -------------------- Kcross73 – KevCross – Kevin Proud Trial Guardian: December 24, 2009 – January 10, 2010 Proud Guardian: January 10, 2010 – February 13, 2010 Proud Event Leader: February 13, 2010 – November 27, 2010 Proud Council: November 27, 2010 – July 5, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 05:28 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Kung_man149 Group: Higher Guardian Posts: 1054 Member No.: 2111 Joined: October 30, 2009 Total Events Attended: 79 | Which is why it would be smart to implement it into a war every so often to see if it works and go from the results. -------------------- Taken❒ Single❒ Mad✔ <+Mark``> i think the brothers GF is going into labour <+Mark``> I WANNA WATCH YU-GI-OH   | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 06:15 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Raging_Mage2 Group: Guardian Posts: 749 Member No.: 2588 Joined: February 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 42 | Sounds like it could work. Even if we used the same callers we do at the moment, and just have a few more fall in leaders, where they just get dropped, and the callers just keep calling. --------------------  #1 In Heaven's Slayer Challenge ## Originally WG since 16/05/06   v -Click below for Goals & Achievement Thread- v  | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 06:29 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Zooby Group: Guest Posts: 1669 Member No.: 1464 Joined: November 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 109 | This is a good idea, the council should atleast bring this idea up at their next meeting, if not, implement it now  -------------------- A Revolution without dance is a Revolution not worth having at all Lightbulbs die my sweet, I will depart | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 07:25 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Armybuilder Group: Raid Leader Posts: 1468 Member No.: 2173 Joined: December 6, 2009 Total Events Attended: 227 | When we rish in of we're attacking its the best idea tbh. Stops the chance of piling the caller for first pile. The rest of the way tbh just make a 3x3 box and walk across. Looks good and whose who is just as hard to see --------------------     | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 07:39 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mark`` Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2190 Member No.: 2320 Joined: July 15, 2010 Total Events Attended: 208 |
K so um. Member leads the run into them (cant be hard unless you have no sense of direction) Have a list of Fall in Leaders (who are tanks) Have a list of Callers (who don't take fall ins) ??? Profit. -------------------- Be sure to check out the Community Events Forum! | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 09:18 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | Great idea joe. On top of that its always hard for fall-in leaders to start looking for people when they've constantly got to defend themselves. Only works if the fall-in leader and caller are together though, and if one dies they gotta make it clear in TS so the next one can step up. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 11:40 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: WizardOfGod Group: Banned Posts: 808 Member No.: 2429 Joined: October 13, 2010 Total Events Attended: 40 | Use to do this in cwa warring i would make a random member a general to accept fights and type in game for us to fi or setup formation so scouts/other clan didn't know it was me calling.. Worked everytime but maybe just have *example randy call from the fall in.. --------------------  Finally the #1 fisher in WG :) Wilderness Guardian's Top Fighters F2P Safe- Levylov F2P Dangerous- Levylov P2P Hybridding- Ching P2P Dangerous- Ching P2P Safe- Levylov Wanna take these ranks down join the 1v1 ladder! http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=22029 | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 04:06 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: fbi3255 Group: Emeritus Posts: 800 Member No.: 1776 Joined: March 21, 2009 Total Events Attended: 143 | This is only really appropriate for the first fall in leader after that in big wars in P2P noone really falls in and in F2P organisation should be good to not need something like this. Also creates people talking over eachother on teamspeak calling piles and fall ins. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 04:59 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: jaredspurr Group: Guardian Posts: 325 Member No.: 2674 Joined: April 7, 2011 Total Events Attended: 18 | something ive learned over in dw, in pkri say randy is the main caller he would call till he died, then whoever he trust the most (if anyone) they would switch accts so randy would still be at the fight while the other person gears randy's acct up and brings it back to the war. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 05:41 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Buzzard1985 Group: Emeritus Posts: 817 Member No.: 723 Joined: May 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 52 | The reason the fall-in leader is the caller to is because what if the person who is calling and not leading the fall in calls somebody out but the fall in leader cannot see the person to bring the rest of the clan to that person? --------------------  - [99 / 99 Woodcutting] - [85 / 99 Fletching] - [82 / 99 Fishing] - - [14 / 24 Skills 70+] - | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 05:48 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: WizardOfGod Group: Banned Posts: 808 Member No.: 2429 Joined: October 13, 2010 Total Events Attended: 40 | the callers calls the fall in on the fall in leader the fall in leader, basically the fall in leader is a decoy.... -------------------- Finally the #1 fisher in WG :) Wilderness Guardian's Top Fighters F2P Safe- Levylov F2P Dangerous- Levylov P2P Hybridding- Ching P2P Dangerous- Ching P2P Safe- Levylov Wanna take these ranks down join the 1v1 ladder! http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=22029 | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 07:28 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
/obvious @Buzz, because WG piles the person who is not in their pile anyway so it should be fairly obvious. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 13, 2011 08:51 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Buzzard1985 Group: Emeritus Posts: 817 Member No.: 723 Joined: May 30, 2008 Total Events Attended: 52 |
True, but for a larger clan this would be quite hard to try. So my point isn't valid  -------------------- - [99 / 99 Woodcutting] - [85 / 99 Fletching] - [82 / 99 Fishing] - - [14 / 24 Skills 70+] - | ||||||||
Posted: April 14, 2011 12:24 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: dieyou2000 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 711 Member No.: 1300 Joined: August 28, 2008 Total Events Attended: 158 | Joe nh. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: April 14, 2011 04:13 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Sounds good in writing but it would be a lot harder to do than say. Part of calling piles is bringing the fall-in TO the target, not running there and THEN saying "come here" --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: April 14, 2011 11:25 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
I did it impromptu with Dieyou as my meatshield and it worked pretty well. We either need more leaders (or people who lead during fights) or we need a change in our system. We can't have only 2-3 leaders every fight and then have long silences. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||||
Posted: April 14, 2011 11:41 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | That's really good. So literally, you could have someone completely random as a Fall In leader, but our warlord and raid leaders etc as Callers? That sounds like a plan! --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: April 15, 2011 12:16 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st Group: Founder Posts: 770 Member No.: 2 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 49 | One other option might be to do it the "sneaky" way. If we're warring at GDs, get someone with a level 10 account to call. If we're doing CWA, have someone spectate and call(Note: they fixed it, at least with the 'wide open terrain' map - the view points overlap). The caller would be able to focus on tracking people around and looking for straying members, as well as /not/ having to worry about dying at the same time. It might take a little work to perfect, and not having an extra account in the war might be a problem, but it /might/ just give us an edge -- Especially in matched fights! -------------------- Old Avatar - Paypal donation link  I am left handed, and proud of it! Retired from RuneScape. Old forum posts: 2275(s4+s10+wg.com)+1759(z6 old account)+474(z6 new account) Total: 4508 Join date: 4/16/05 | Get Firefox 3.5 now: http://www.getfirefox.com | RobbieSwich for Firefox | ||||||||
Posted: April 15, 2011 12:34 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | eh, ill tell you what i dislike about the ideas. 1. If the person leading the fall in gets killed during a pile, it will cause confusion. 2. Fall in leaders rarely get piled for WG since there are so many below average tanks. 3. If people cant find the pile, the can follow the fall in leader to 1 step away from pile, useful only if the fall in leader can see it. If it ever comes to the time where I get piled so much we can do something like this, but I wouldn't want to rely on it. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||||
Posted: April 15, 2011 05:10 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | In theory this sounds great and I've thought about it before too but there are a lot of flaws which have already been pointed out by others. We should also attempt to limit the use of fall ins and start focusing on transitions but I don't see that happening anytime soon. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||||||||
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