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Posted: May 27, 2011 05:25 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Tumpelo
Group: Clan Friend
Posts: 189
Member No.: 1347
Joined: September 24, 2008
Total Events Attended: 13
'If I were banned, humiliated, and insulted by WG I would not forgive or forget'.

Lordy's words in his latest speech, but words that I can relate to.

Yesterday I was kicked out of WG for leaking, and then later reinstated for lack of evidence against me.

I have not had an official explanation, because as I have seen since my time back in WG, people who are banned do not get any notice, any explanation, any form of appeal.

The first thing I get when I try to find out why I've been banned is 'I think you know what you've done'. Well no I didn't and I still don't really, I've just been able to piece things together from talking to people.

From what I can gather I was kicked for leaking war attendance lists to WizardOfGod. Now I like Wizard and I respect him as a decent pker, but I hardly know the ****ing guy and rarely talk to him. Council, you have a leak, it's higher up than you think, and it wasn't me.

Then there was my warn level for attacking a bot. I joined WG 7 years ago because of APK'ing, a form of APK'ing that does not exist in WG these days from what I've seen. Rev trainers are apparently fine to kill but Jagex rule breakers are a definite no no? Forget the 'rules' for a second and use common sense.

My exams start soon so I'd be inactive for a solid 2 weeks anyway. I guess this is coming at the best possible time. Added to that I was overdue on graduating, having never been able to get the friends list screenshot or 5 referrals. I guess I just haven't fitted into WG this time around, which is probably my own fault.

Last thing, I challenge anyone to post proof of me leaking and blow me out of the water. I'd never do that to the clan I love and grew up with.

I wish WG and His Lordship all the best for the future. You've got a certain amount of really awesome staff and some great members.

Thanks for the ride.

Tump

 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 05:47 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: DG_Keanu
Group: Council
Posts: 4782
Member No.: 2033
Joined: August 25, 2009
Total Events Attended: 173
I completely agree with your side on the bot issue. As to the banning thing, I don't know much about what went on, but from my point of view, you definitely have been treated unfairly.

You're a cool guy though, and I wish you all the best in RS and IRL wherever you decide to go smile.gif
 
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[05:42] <+WG_Keanu> I think I got a semi just looking at the pic
[05:42] <%kat> same

Posted: May 27, 2011 05:48 pmTop
   


IRC Nickname: ZurvivorMan
Group: Emeritus
Posts: 1098
Member No.: 1528
Joined: December 6, 2008
Total Events Attended: 99
Sorry to see you go sad.gif
But seriously, you should have gotten a apology.

btw, if there's any change i hope you would reconsider leaving.
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 06:36 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Kung_man149
Group: Higher Guardian
Posts: 1054
Member No.: 2111
Joined: October 30, 2009
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I wouldn't be surprised if Staff punished everyone who's had contact with Wizard in the past month.
Hang tight Tumpelo, things can only get better from here on.
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 06:44 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: rachellove
Group: Council
Posts: 6955
Member No.: 173
Joined: January 31, 2008
Total Events Attended: 305
Sigh . . . Well I for one am sorry to see this kind of stuff happen. It is not always the way it looks. We try to be fair and sort things quickly when problems arise.

Good luck with your exams. I hope you get A++ in all of them.




To Alain:

Don't assume the worst. I'm not out to punish the clan for who they are friends with or pk with. The rules just have to be followed.
 
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is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
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Posted: May 27, 2011 06:46 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Kung_man149
Group: Higher Guardian
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I didn't mean punishment out of vengeance or out of spite.
More as a precaution to make sure things go smoothly until the Wizard issue is settled.
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 07:02 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Russell900
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 113
Member No.: 2683
Joined: April 11, 2011
Total Events Attended: 10
Wg isn’t the same clan we use to be part of dude, regardless of whom you are friends with or regardless of a person only being a trail member, kicking somebody with out so much as an explanation and worst of all without any evidence what so ever is out of line no matter who you are. It’s a total abuse of power and should warrant a public apology
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 08:30 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Kat
Group: Event Leader
Posts: 1085
Member No.: 2257
Joined: April 30, 2010
Total Events Attended: 223
im sorry to see you leave tump :[ i had no idea u were in trouble like this. :[ i hope you rethink this and stay :[
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 08:53 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster
Group: Elite Guardian
Posts: 9840
Member No.: 3
Joined: December 26, 2007
Total Events Attended: 540
Like Kat, I also didn't know you had been caught up in all this.
It would have been nice/would be nice if the Council updated us on clan affairs more often...

You were a great member mate, both times you have been here, and I wish you ever success in the future.

Stay in touch? smile.gif
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 09:36 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Raging_Mage2
Group: Guardian
Posts: 749
Member No.: 2588
Joined: February 7, 2011
Total Events Attended: 42
QUOTE: George @ May 27, 2011 03:53 pm)
Like Kat, I also didn't know you had been caught up in all this.
It would have been nice/would be nice if the Council updated us on clan affairs more often...

You were a great member mate, both times you have been here, and I wish you ever success in the future.

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This..

I'll miss you Tump, unfortuneatly I've been inactive this past month, but you're a great person sad.gif
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 09:40 pmTop
   


IRC Nickname: [Randy]
Group: Raid Leader
Posts: 5065
Member No.: 16
Joined: December 29, 2007
Total Events Attended: 499
Um no you were not kicked out of WG, your forum account was temporarily suspended until we figured out what was going on.
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 09:47 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Russell900
Group: Ex-Member
Posts: 113
Member No.: 2683
Joined: April 11, 2011
Total Events Attended: 10
QUOTE: Randy @ May 27, 2011 04:40 pm)
Um no you were not kicked out of WG, your forum account was temporarily suspended until we figured out what was going on.

Here if you loged on and your fourm account had been "temporarily suspended" for no reason and with no explanation as to why i think you would safely assume you had been kicked for no reason as well especially if you were a trial member
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 09:52 pmTop
   


IRC Nickname: [Randy]
Group: Raid Leader
Posts: 5065
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Joined: December 29, 2007
Total Events Attended: 499
QUOTE: Russell900 @ May 27, 2011 05:47 pm)
QUOTE: Randy May 27, 2011 04:40 pm
Um no you were not kicked out of WG, your forum account was temporarily suspended until we figured out what was going on.

Here if you loged on and your fourm account had been "temporarily suspended" for no reason and with no explanation as to why i think you would safely assume you had been kicked for no reason as well especially if you were a trial member

We had talked on IRC about it
 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 10:06 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Bgpgraebner
Group: Higher Guardian
Posts: 780
Member No.: 2457
Joined: November 17, 2010
Total Events Attended: 51
Oh... Well. Can't argue as that'll make no sense/difference. All I can say is, I'll let you know when WG gets back to them olden days - I'm not making a flame or complaint about what it is today.
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 02:52 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Lefty
Group: Emeritus
Posts: 3340
Member No.: 1055
Joined: June 30, 2008
Total Events Attended: 211
Sorry to see you leave due to issues within the clan.

Watching you on the forums and knowing that you have been in WG in the past, I figured you would be a great asset to the clan. Hopefully things can be further worked out and your decision will be reversed.

Best of luck in the future mate.
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 03:22 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Zooby
Group: Guest
Posts: 1669
Member No.: 1464
Joined: November 12, 2008
Total Events Attended: 109
These are silly things done that have resulted in us losing a valuable member.
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 07:42 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st
Group: Founder
Posts: 770
Member No.: 2
Joined: December 26, 2007
Total Events Attended: 49
See, this is what happens when certain Council decide to ban first and ask questions later. As I've tried to say many times, don't ban until you have clear evidence. Sure, things will get leaked in the meantime, but... so what?

Damnit. In the future, I'm going to try my best to make sure no one gets banned or suspended, simply for being suspect, and to hell with anyone who tries to tell me otherwise.

Also, warn level for attacking a bot? Frigging hell. That's just wrong. I'm going to go grump at the party responsible -- I mean, considering that on half the raids(at least, earlier ones) we'd kill everyone in the rev caves if we could, simply because it was /fun/... Bots are fair game IMHO.

 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 07:44 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: His Lordship
Group: Founder
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Yeah, this was unnecessary harm, and while the staff team is getting pissed off at me for a Historian rank discrepancy, they are banning people based on hunches, calling my crime the worse.

All I can think of doing now is tracking down Tumpelo, offering an apology and negotiating some way to make it up to him.
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 08:07 amTop
   
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Sad to see this happen but new the Welsh unit is back to 2 people. Gl in life and where ever man (y)
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 09:24 amTop
   


IRC Nickname: Wayshow
Group: Higher Guardian
Posts: 733
Member No.: 2584
Joined: February 6, 2011
Total Events Attended: 41
damn it what on earth is happening....
gl tump i hope you think again :<

 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 11:01 amTop
   


IRC Nickname: Rodney75
Group: Council
Posts: 1683
Member No.: 2109
Joined: October 29, 2009
Total Events Attended: 154
Sorry to read this, good luck. Your reasons are legit. sad.gif
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 12:39 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Jenny
Group: Emeritus
Posts: 1967
Member No.: 19
Joined: December 29, 2007
Total Events Attended: 56
This makes me sad Tump, I can only remember with fondness the old days. Things can't ever stay the same as much as we want them to.
I wish you good luck on exams.
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 02:21 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Ret[Keith]
Group: Emeritus
Posts: 2049
Member No.: 86
Joined: January 1, 2008
Total Events Attended: 82
This is depressing sad.gif I'm gonna miss you and your tumpasaurus
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 02:37 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: His Lordship
Group: Founder
Posts: 6029
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Joined: December 26, 2007
Total Events Attended: 129
Tump, I can see that you're still visiting the forums, so if I can catch you one last time, come and speak to me. The council has made an unintentional error, but with good intentions.

Let's see if I can come to an agreement with you, alright?
 
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Posted: May 28, 2011 03:03 pmTop
   
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Hes right.

And i completely Agree.


I FEEL the exact same. smile.gif
 
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