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 So bias yea?, Sorry keanu,
Posted: June 16, 2011 09:46 amTop
   
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Ok, I have recently learned that keanu can see level 2.

Dont take this personally keanu, but WTF....

I can understand you pulling rank to give him historian..after the entire clan didnt want it..but letting him see level 2..after not even being back a month...thats complete bullshit and you fucking know it.



 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 09:49 amTop
   


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hohoho and the issue ignites again
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 09:50 amTop
   
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Posted: June 16, 2011 09:50 amTop
   
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I can assure you it's alot more than that. I'm sure once you hear all the reasons you'll see why.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 09:56 amTop
   
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QUOTE: Mark @ June 16, 2011 07:50 pm)
I can assure you it's alot more than that. I'm sure once you hear all the reasons you'll see why.

It's not more than that, don't make it worse.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 11:00 amTop
   
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Gene, wasn't even here when "I" gave Keanu the Historian rank back. The rank was already set up in ACP and I changed nothing. He got exactly the same access that the rank was originally set up for.

"I" gave Keanu half-op on IRC as well. He goes to voice so only if he sees he is needed then he can switch to it and do whatever he needs to do. It's not like he sits there with the half-op and abuses it. He can't kick or anything at voiced.

Seriously, I think this gets to be more of drama than needs to be. Gene probably doesn't even know atm what Keanu has or doesn't. He has been way to busy to worry about this.

I re-created the rank on the rune head as well for our member list. I had to pick a color. I had Kat and Kevin both look at the color. Kevin adjusted the color for me cause it was to close to Tom/Raid Leader. If anyone has a problem with the color of the rank, just tell us now . . .

This is issue is not as much about Keanu. I just want you to know that if you feel bias was done it was "me." I try to be fair but even I have faults.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 12:24 pmTop
   


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He abused half op before....
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 12:35 pmTop
   
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He can still kick as voice, because he has the access... just FYI Rachel.
But anyway we all know he can see more than Level Two anyway.... and it's not like the members' opinions matter anymore.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 01:44 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: George @ June 16, 2011 10:35 pm)
He can still kick as voice, because he has the access... just FYI Rachel.
But anyway we all know he can see more than Level Two anyway.... and it's not like the members' opinions matter anymore.

He cant see anything higher than level 2.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 03:00 pmTop
   


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Why do people care so much. He worked for it, meh.

I see both sides the argument, but realise no matter what I say or think - it changes nothing...
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 03:14 pmTop
   
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Wasn't he elite before historian? What's the big deal?
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 03:27 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Sativas @ June 17, 2011 01:14 am)
Wasn't he elite before historian? What's the big deal?

Banned > Guest > Trial > Historian
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 03:54 pmTop
   
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I dont agree with people saying that he doesnt need/deserve historian, one of the things that drew me to this clan was its fantastic history, and for that to be preserved we need someone dedicated to pruning and updating it. I dont know enough about keanu to have any opinion on him personally, but in general i like that rank.

BUT, what i do not like, is the powers that seem to have come with this new rank, surely having the wiki and clan page passwords are enough, i dont really see why he needs to become half op on irc, and im not talking about keanu, im talking about the rank, essentially, he should just be a normal member with a couple of special responsibilites.


 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 04:23 pmTop
   
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Guys its a new chance, its just like him having a staff position, its not a big deal. What he does for WG is why he gets his privileges.

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Hes not half op this time is he?
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 04:45 pmTop
   
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Ive heard stories about keanu, he seems to have the clan focusing around him tbh, at the ts meeting he spoke asif it was his clan... Which annoyed me, now he gets level 2? Some of us are capable of doing the historian stuff he does why dont we have someone different, he causes anger within the clans core. I disagree. Banned>guest>trial>historian, he skipped member and elite from my view?
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 04:53 pmTop
   
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Personally ive stopped Careing. Keanu helps wg. The guy appears to have grown up. He knows ill say if i see him do anything wrong but he's a general good guy. Leave it.

Keanu has done good for us before. Lets leave the issue here. Whats done is done deal with it.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 05:10 pmTop
   
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QUOTE: Armybuilder1 @ June 16, 2011 11:53 am)
Personally ive stopped Careing. Keanu helps wg. The guy appears to have grown up. He knows ill say if i see him do anything wrong but he's a general good guy. Leave it.

Keanu has done good for us before. Lets leave the issue here. Whats done is done deal with it.

im with the man
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 05:16 pmTop
   
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This causes a bit more drama than it needs to.
I see how it is unfair, but then that's just how life is sometimes


 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 05:18 pmTop
   
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It's been said before WG isn't a democracy. Not everything is going to go the way you would like it to. Deal with it...


 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 05:25 pmTop
   
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From Joe:
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He abused half op before....

Let me look up your old warn log. Seems you don't have a lot of room to talk about past things. I think we all deserve many chances in WG. I so love you Joe.

From George:
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He can still kick as voice, because he has the access... just FYI Rachel.
But anyway we all know he can see more than Level Two anyway.... and it's not like the members' opinions matter anymore.

I spoke to JC about the IRC Rank and he told me at the voiced even if you are a half op you can not do any of the same things that you could do if you were a op. The two ranks work differently. One is only lvl 4 and the other is lvl 10 or higher. Also think of how many people supported having additional irc moderators. This helps with Joey's suggestion also.

As Jayson said, he can only see lvl 2 on our fourms. It is in the ACP and any council member can verify this. The members opinions always matter, but they are not always in agreement with what is best for the clan. Gene acted in the best interest of the clan.

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Wasn't he elite before historian? What's the big deal?
He went from trial to guardian to higher to elite to historian to ex member to guest to banned to trial to Historian. He was asked to return to take the Historian Rank as he is really the best one for the rank. If we had others interested before all this drama maybe things would be different.

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Some of us are capable of doing the historian stuff he does why dont we have someone different, he causes anger within the clans core.


This Rank was created for Keanu by Gene. Gene recognized a special gift that he had. There have been other members with special gifts that Gene has allowed privileges to help WG. JM is moderator of the Gallery. No one really fights with him.
 
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is the day you have stopped leading them.
They have either lost confidence that you can help them
or concluded that you do not care.
Either case is a failure of leadership.”
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Posted: June 16, 2011 06:28 pmTop
   
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Yea, im not disputing the fact the rank was made for him or what not. Its the simple fact that he hasnt been back even a month, and hes straight into level 2? He has gained elite access, in less than a month. Something the rest of the clan has been working at for months, sometimes years. Its not what he does for the clan. Considering like I said, 90% of the clan were against him getting the rank back, and wanted it to be given to him over time. Not 10 days later...its ridiculous.

 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 06:47 pmTop
   
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I want my own rank sad.gif maybe i should make loads of videos and ask for WG Director
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 06:59 pmTop
   


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I agree with Lee.

 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 07:04 pmTop
   
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omg this topic again? ive already discussed this with gene. if keanu acts up and abuses his powers, he loses it. gene confirmed with me, if i see him acting up, i tell gene. so if u see him acting up and abusing his power let council know. i think we all agree its one thing to see level two but if he cud see level 3 we'd all flip shiz. but this topic shud be closed its already been discussed.
 
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Posted: June 16, 2011 07:23 pmTop
   
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level two is a small deal, its where elites can be alone and have an important clan discussion, keanu hasnt done anything wrong in that forum so i dont see why people that dont have access to it are complaining.

 
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