When you think about it, he has a point. A lot of people seem to go to events just to increase thier number, instead of going to events because they actually want to. Iv'e noticed several times that people would come to an event the ten minutes later make some kind of excuse to leave. If we were to keep the number secret, somewhere up in level 3, it would still be kept and monitored for activity, but not be giving people the idea they have to constantly increase it.

Like I said earlier, I believe that the event leaders have to start being more strict about how long you must stay at an event to recieve attendance. Showing up to an event, staying for 10 minutes, and saying you have to go isn't acceptable. Event leaders should be smart and use good judgement about a specific time based on the event. Example, castle wars 3 or 4 rounds, agility event 15+ laps, etc. Obviously this goes for wars, too, because iv'e certainly witnessed people getting attendance taken then lagging out, which is unpredictable, but should go unrewarded. Before you whine at this comment, I will make clear that this does not go for people who get cut during matched ops (although, I believe that if you're cut you should stay and watch).

Since it's the event leader's job to go over the activity of members and see who's fufilling the activity requirements and who's not, it shouldn't have to be up to the members to read thier own number and think to themselves "wow, i'm inactive, I should really start going to events." Instead, just like Tmal said, everyone should be motivated by their own, and not by some silly number.

Thanks to all 10 of you that will read this topic because it doesn't have sex in it.
 
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i think they would go to less......but meh....w/e.

I go to all the events i can so yea, i could care a less really.

It lets newbies look at how active they should try to be imo.....and makes them more active.
 
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*The list is just another method of choosing the best candidate.

"I'm more active than member X"
"I'm number 3"
"I should be a higher rank because of all the events I go to"
"Yeah I'm a good member, look at my attendance"
^-That, I agree is bad. But you gotta look at it this way. The list is their to show you how everyone is active and what they are putting forth, its a motivation to go to more events. Everyone should go to events because they want too, but thats not realistic. But neither are the examples your giving. If some one is saying that they are a better member of wg b/c they go to events is the wrong way of thinking. The best way you can support wg is by being nice and friendly, and making friends w/ members in wg. If they don't realize that.......even if they are 1 on activity, they don't deserve the rank b/c they fail to see wg as a community based clan, rather than a clan like df which is Warring only. How can wg grow if its leaders are only event active but not friends w/ ppl? You are seeing half the picture, i don't no of any higher+ that is only event active but not friendly to everyone and active.

Can you honestly tell me what clan members think that just attendance gives them the right to be above and beyond everyone else? Because those members already have failed what it means to be in wg, and if they think that way, need to gtfo and go to a clan like df or something.

I highly doubt very many members even look at attendance..


Personally I see attendance as a way to be like "cool im active and am being represented as so", not "wow im top 10 activity, everyone else is newb and bad wg member" or "im rank 11 activity, ima go to all events for 2 weeks to become rank 3"
who thinks like that? If someone is, they are seeing the wrong side of wg.

When i go on the irc and see some1 calling a member an inactive newb b/c they dont have as much attendance, then it needs to go. Now and currently, i am quite sure 90% of wg don't care and find no fault with it. I mean look at robbie ffs, hes nvr on rs, but he is what I would call a great member of wg. He made the forums, he helps ppl w/ pc troubles, and works his hardest to help. The day i hear some1 say dam why is robbie wg, hes inactive as hell, look at his attendance is the day I will ask for attendance to be taken down.
 
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Oh really

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On topic, I, too, think that members shouldn't be attending events because of a number. But when you come to think about it, the majority don't attend events for the total attendance list. In result, when that list is removed as you are suggesting, something good will be removed just to solve some problem a minority in WG has. Just keep things as they are.
 
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ask gorge, hes the one that does it, even he is in favor of it.

and as i said, it can be used to see/remove potential choices of who you would vote for to make the best decision possible for ranks such as council, event coord, and so on.
 
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ask gorge, hes the one that does it, even he is in favor of it.

and as i said, it can be used to see/remove potential choices of who you would vote for to make the best decision possible for ranks such as council, event coord, and so on.

My assumption is that it is used just to see who is becoming inactive, and not following the activity requirements (which we need to start enforcing )
 
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I simply do not think that people place as much value on their attendance if they are not able to view it, compare it to others, and maybe even recieve some recognition. I used to have the names of the top 5 in attendance points in my sig, maybe I will do that again.

I also worry about accountability. As you know attendance is not perfect, and it helps if people can see their own attendance so they can correct any mistakes.
 
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