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Posted: June 7, 2008 03:16 am  | |||
    IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1    | Look guys I'm all for preparing and focusing on the CWPL, I mean I lead the damn thing so it's neat to see people care. However, it really shouldn't be WG's ONLY focus. The WG I know and love is one that used to fight 5 or more times a week. The WG I know and love could always pull 15 or 20 people to a matched opt fight and have a good time doing it. So why have we gotten away from that? Is the CWPL so important that short prep fights need to be eliminated completely? WG is a clan that thrives on warring and there are probably 30 other clans out there that would be willing to short prep fight us. Those clans are all beatable and more importantly, all fun to fight. As it stands now we only bother with fighting one clan a week and that is just unacceptable in my opinion. I really think people would find it more fun to at least have a couple spur of the moment fights a week, that is what clanning is all about. It keeps us sharp for the important fights, and keeps members that can't make it on Saturdays happy. Raid Leaders or Council: If you need help finding the fights then please just ASK! I have something like 600 people added on msn, most of which are in clans or lead them. I know so many who like to war and we should be able to always find a fight. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:18 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | I agree, we're not improving by sitting here and twiddling our thumbs waiting for the war each week. None of us are bots except maybe Evil and can't maintain the same level on skill week after week. We need practice at least once and a while to refresh the memory and remind us what it's all about. Barbarister thirsts... -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:18 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 | Meh. You all know I don't care for wars most of the time. Others though, want more warring. You Raid Leaders out there, give it to them. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:22 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
See right here, great example of someone who has a good reason NOT to want any more fights. Yet she is still willing to see it happen for those who like it. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:22 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | The only reason I have not been getting any miniwars is because I don't want us to get too many wars that will make us not take the CWPL as important. I fear that too many mid-week miniwars would result in the majority of WG to get an attitude that is like "oh another war, who cares I've had enough throughout the week". As for other raid leaders I can't speak for them but thats my mindset. I have a feeling theirs are similar to mine too. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:28 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
Yeah I agree...that's why there needs to be a compromise. Would 1-2 miniwars midweek really affect people's feelings about the weekend? I doubt it. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:31 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: spanthrax Group: Ex-Member Posts: 813 Member No.: 29 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 37 | i agree extra practice never hurts. it can only help us --------------------   | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:36 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | 1 or 2 minis/week would be fine, only thing is during the week i have school, & the minis are always either when im sleeping or at school :@ --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 03:43 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | I'm definently willing to make more fights. When I started making short-prep fights previously, I received a lot of angry clanmates complaining about it.... I'll step it up tbh. -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 04:06 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | Summer break is coming up for most Americans -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 04:10 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | I'd like too see more mini wars. 2 max for like EST throughout the week, and maybe throw in one for Aussies? (Even though it'd be small , 5v5, 10v10). But any more than that + some focus may be taken off cwpl. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 08:47 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | We didn't want to put too much pressure onto Wg while the CWPL fights where going. We wanted to put as much performance as possible in the CWPL fights, that's why we discussed about it when we signed up, will this be a stab in the back for Wg? Will this reduce the amount we get for other wars? We need to preserve our energy and direct to one thing, and I think CWPL is the right way to do it, along with Pro Silentium. We'll get high in Cmb & Skills, and that is proven through our success in the CWPL. As the CWPL continues, gets longer, Pro Silentium continues, the fights will get harder, but Wg will also get harder, due to practice in Full Out wars and increase in combat. To be honest, a lot of people put 100% in to the full out wars, mainly because they know it will make a big difference towards the clan "Wg" publically, our public image on RSC Is getting much better, we're gathering more self-esteem, we're doing really well. Why try to fix the fixed. I think we're fine as it is. For performance wise, General holds a lot of Tanking practices, I will encourage him to carry on, I personally love him for doing it. I encourage others to host them as well. If you are worried about leading the event, just get a leader to do it for you. And Tmal, Wg's changed =P ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 09:47 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 | I agree with Tmal  Doing tank practices is all well and good, it helps up improve etc, however to keep our edge we need to ensure we keep fighting regularly instead of just hyping up one big war.~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 11:07 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | As has been said, we need a compromise. Without practice, we'll fall behind. Mininwars take up, what, half an hour? In a week of 168 hours, I think we can afford at least 1. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 12:36 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: chip54321 Group: Emeritus Posts: 532 Member No.: 119 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 197 | tbe and tdm are both in the same situation, maybe we could ask them for a practise every week where we just war each other. It would be a good test of skill and of course, it would help us train just a little bit. Plus, its not too important so it wont get in the way of the CWPL. --------------------      | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 01:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | I see cons and pros about that, but I can really see WG having more miniwars , getting more publicity as Karl said : all publicity is good publicity, and to get to know eachother better. --------------------   | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 01:43 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: General199 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1073 Member No.: 318 Joined: March 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | I had been wondering why I was not seeing any short preps. Short prepped full out or matched ops will keep us tuned for warring each week so we should keep having them no matter what. Oh and keep training everyone. --------------------  | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 02:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I'm not really into the warring that much but I might attend an extra war or two each month if I happen to be on. Though matched opts I most likely get cut. I dont mind that either. Love to see you all having a good time warring. Nolan I'm training <333 (dont love it though lol) --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 04:58 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | Abs I realized it has changed, but you understand that the CWPL is designed to basically have no end right? It is 7 weeks, 1 week off, 7 weeks, 1 week off, etc... Knowing that, are we really going to just fight one clan a week for the rest of WGs existence? That doesn't sound like a great way to do things in my opinion. All I'm saying is 1-2 miniwars a week. If you want to make them no RSC post then do it (Although I hate that  ) but I think as a clan that has its roots in warring, we won't lose anything with another fight a week. -------------------- | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 05:03 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Snowzak Group: Emeritus Posts: 1193 Member No.: 5 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | Although you bring up good points, I agree with Abs' point of view for now: we've only had two weeks and one CWPL fight, a bit of stability doesn't hurt. However, we shouldn't forget that if WG fights, like all other clans in the CWPL two wars a week, we'll stay stationary. I think that we should start having more miniwars gradually in one or two weeks, to get used to the rhythm of one full-out per week, before adding minis on top. --------------------  London RL Meeting attendee - Paris RL meeting attendee Joined WG in October 2005 - Original DG - Ex-Raid Leader Proud Council Member from October 21st 2007 to May 19th 2008 | ||
Posted: June 7, 2008 05:39 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | Completely agree with Tmal, there needs to be some sort of balance here, and right now we do not have enough wars per week. I think the extra practice would be helpful, expecially for those who for one reason or another cannot make the CWPL wars. If we do not have another war each week, we should at least organize a large inter-clan war. --------------------   | ||
Two fights a week....really?