If we pull 50, we'll need 25+, if we pull 60, we'll need 30+.

And the effectiveness is also debatable, so I wouldn't take the risk.

In my eyes, the opposite strategy would be the best: the bigger the numerical superiority we have, they'll include the totality of their people present, thus maybe exposing themselves to performance weakness, whereas we'll naturally keep an elite group once the cuts are done.

50% for this fight.
 
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If we pull 50, we'll need 25+, if we pull 60, we'll need 30+.

And the effectiveness is also debatable, so I wouldn't take the risk.

In my eyes, the opposite strategy would be the best: the bigger the numerical superiority we have, they'll include the totality of their people present, thus maybe exposing themselves to performance weakness, whereas we'll naturally keep an elite group once the cuts are done.

50% for this fight.

Exactly Snow. We lose that advantage if we cut more people on purpose, because then RE get to cut their lower levels aswell. It makes a lot more sense to use this tactic if you are the one who brings less people, and so I would not be surprised if at least one of the clans we face uses this same tactic against us.

Considering the CWPL rules are designed to prevent this sort of thing, attempting to cut options on purpose, even if it does comply with the 50% rule, might be seen as a breach of the intent of the rules.

I have to admonish the leadership for actually putting this on the forums. If anything, we should have kept it secret until after the practice event. At least then if someone leaked it, it would just be a rumor, but now if we had a spy on our forums they could leak a picture of this 'tactic'. Is it really worth risking ruining our reputation and possibly getting kicked out of the CWPL? Especially considering the rule that Snow has cited (which the leadership should have look into before posting the tactic) which means that the effectiveness of such tactic will be further diminished--that is if you believe the tactic to be effective in the first place.
 
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That is because you using guesswork, and not actually looking at the numbers.

We pulled 68 people last war, and RE pulled 44 to their matched options. Divide those numbers by the total member list and you have your attendance ratio:
WG = 62%
RE = 51%

Now lets divide the memberlist into two parts, those above 115 cb, and those below 115 combat.
WG = 55 (+115), 54 (-115)
RE = 60 (+155), 26 (-115)

Apply the attendance ratio to that and you get about:
WG = 34 (+115) attending, 34 (-115) attending
RE = 31 (+115) attending, 13 (-115) attending

With the war capped at 44 people, RE has more -115s than we do.
WG = 10 (-115)
RE = 13 (-115)

Not only that, but our -115s will be higher leveled than theirs. Since we are cutting 20 people we get to choose the best, but RE has to stick with whoever they pulled (unless they use the proposed tactic against us).
Assuming we get to pick 10 out of the top 15 -115, and RE has an even spread of their -115, the estimates look like this:
Lowest WG level: 112 cb
Lowest RE level: 105 cb.
RE members below lowest WG level (112 cb) = 6 members.

At this point we still have a level advantage over RE.

Now lets say we go through with our tactic, and go with 35 people. WG has 1 person below -115, and RE has 4. The estimates look like this:
Lowest WG level: 115 cb.
Lowest RE level: 113 cb.
RE members below lowest WG level (115 cb) = 1 member.

Double check my math if you think I am wrong.

I realize there is a big margin of error here, especially since attendance spreads are not even (ussually the higher levels have better attendance ratio), but this is a good estimation that shows you just how you lose the advantage if you implement this tactic.

In terms of risk vs. reward, this tactic is completely foolish. The reward is either negative or negligible, and we risk our reputation, standing in the CWPL league, and drawing fewer members to the war since they think they will be unfairly cut by their own clan anyways.
 
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