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 Inactivity Sweep - Round 1
Posted: June 23, 2008 09:21 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Dalejamesw
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First of a Few Inactivity sweeps, only a couple of members this time. Should be a warning for those who know they are becoming inactive.

Below is a list of all the members who have been booted for this Inactivity Sweep:
Jam_Us 1 Event 4 Weeks ago.
Elmtsk8ter 2 Events 8 Weeks ago.
1badacepkr 1 Event 3 Weeks ago.
Die_3000 Despite having a Inactivity topic we have seen him on RS alot. Exams ended over 1 month ago, no contact since.

A personal message has/will be sent asap. to these members regarding the situation.

Members who need to improve thier activity to avoid the next inactivity sweep:
*these members have been removed this is thier warning to improve*

Floormaster2
BPN
Tiran000
Pk_Javin
John1274
Pminogue
Kero2

A personal message has/will be sent asap. to these members regarding the situation they are also advised to improve as they will be watched closely.

Now whilst im on the topic of Inactivity
Trial Guardians - You period of Trial is no more than 1 Month, we have been lenient recently but now we're back to cracking down on inactive trials, if you know your trial period is over 1 month we advised to applying for graduation before the next sweep.


Stay stuned for the next Inactivity sweep. Any problems you can personal message me over the forums or IRC. Theres some that have scrapped it this time, but dont think we're not aware.
 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 09:23 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Zeth
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Good.
This was needed.
 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 09:23 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: DZ
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We're cracking the whip dface-ani.gif

This is most likely the first of many paranoid.gif
 
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Now back to the good part!

Posted: June 23, 2008 09:24 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: chip54321
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Joined: January 11, 2008
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lol, i thought this would be another "post to see if you're active" things.

Ya, we definitely could use a sweep to get our member numbers back to what they should be.


 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 09:27 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Zlat
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Joined: December 29, 2007
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Another one bites the dust.


 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 09:36 pmTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Mike|Sonix
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This was needed, but I don't want Kero2 removed sad.gif. Hopefully he'll be improving.
 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 09:37 pmTop
   
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its a shame only a few were kicked, i was expecting more......

kero wtf, play rs now.
 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 10:14 pmTop
   


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Do them daily!
 
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Posted: June 23, 2008 10:37 pmTop
   
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This was much needed and I hope it weeds out some of the people that have been inactive and even gets some people active again.
 
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Posted: June 24, 2008 01:24 amTop
   
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I am pretty sure I have seen BPN and Kero2 at some recient events. Also kicking Die_3000 might have been a bit premature, since it is hard to tell based off of a month of activity (the activity durring his exams should be overlooked, since he did post an inactivity topic) if someone should be kicked on not.

Other than that, I commend the council in not going overboard with the inactivity sweep. I think people are overreacting to the attendance of the Mori war. Our activity is actually quite good, we have been pulling 30+ to wars with about 24 hour prep, and for the RE war we pulled about 70. I am not sure why attendance was lower for the Mori war, except that people underestimate the randomness in attendance trends--we try to look for a reason for their being low attendance when there really is not one other than bad timing or bad luck. From what I have seen we are actually quite active, and in future wars will field many more than we did at the Mori war, regardless of an inactivity sweep or not.
 
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Posted: June 24, 2008 01:35 amTop
   


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QUOTE (Karlfischer @ June 23, 2008 09:24 pm)
I am pretty sure I have seen BPN and Kero2 at some recient events. Also kicking Die_3000 might have been a bit premature, since it is hard to tell based off of a month of activity (the activity durring his exams should be overlooked, since he did post an inactivity topic) if someone should be kicked on not.

Other than that, I commend the council in not going overboard with the inactivity sweep. I think people are overreacting to the attendance of the Mori war. Our activity is actually quite good, we have been pulling 30+ to wars with about 24 hour prep, and for the RE war we pulled about 70. I am not sure why attendance was lower for the Mori war, except that people underestimate the randomness in attendance trends--we try to look for a reason for their being low attendance when there really is not one other than bad timing or bad luck. From what I have seen we are actually quite active, and in future wars will field many more than we did at the Mori war, regardless of an inactivity sweep or not.

Karl if we give them a month to pass trial, then we should also be able to pass judgment in a month.

If we actually enforce our rule, we will have to.
 
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Posted: June 24, 2008 01:49 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Karlfischer
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QUOTE (Tmal34 @ June 24, 2008 01:35 am)
QUOTE (Karlfischer @ June 23, 2008 09:24 pm)
I am pretty sure I have seen BPN and Kero2 at some recient events.  Also kicking Die_3000 might have been a bit premature, since it is hard to tell based off of a month of activity (the activity durring his exams should be overlooked, since he did post an inactivity topic) if someone should be kicked on not. 

Other than that, I commend the council in not going overboard with the inactivity sweep.  I think people are overreacting to the attendance of the Mori war.  Our activity is actually quite good, we have been pulling 30+ to wars with about 24 hour prep, and for the RE war we pulled about 70.  I am not sure why attendance was lower for the Mori war, except that people underestimate the randomness in attendance trends--we try to look for a reason for their being low attendance when there really is not one other than bad timing or bad luck.  From what I have seen we are actually quite active, and in future wars will field many more than we did at the Mori war, regardless of an inactivity sweep or not.

Karl if we give them a month to pass trial, then we should also be able to pass judgment in a month.

If we actually enforce our rule, we will have to.

I do not think Die_3000 was a trial guardian though. Last time I checked we held trial guardians to different standards of activity than normal guardians.

The reason being people have almost seasonal inactivity...they might be inactive during school or exams, but then super active during breaks. The problem is that you are judging Die_3000 based on his most inactive month, while trials are being judged on the month of their choice. Obviously a trial is not going to apply for trial during exams, instead a trial will apply when that trial member knows he or she can be most active. A regular member does not have that luxury when being judged on just the time frame of one month, which is why the standards of activity between trial and regular guardians are not (and should not) be equal.
 
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Posted: June 24, 2008 02:19 amTop
   


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I do see your logic.
However read Die's explanation again.
He has been on RS, he has been out of his inactivity for a month, and he hasn't even checked in with us.

I agree that what he has shown is not a level of commitment.
 
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Posted: June 24, 2008 02:35 amTop
   
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BPN was at the Mori war yesterday.
 
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Posted: June 24, 2008 04:22 amTop
   
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IRC Nickname: Karlfischer
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Tmal, I would agree with you if he was given a warning prior to his being kicked, since supposedly he was RS active. Atleast this would give him a chance to explain if he had a good reason for his continued inactivity.

Also PK Javin, BPN, and 1badacepkr were all at the war with TMC also.



 
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