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Posted: February 2, 2008 11:39 pm  | |||
     IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499    | Seriously, if the people who cared in the fighting sector was put on a pie chart, the section would like pacman's mouth. Enough people complaining that we have bad attendance. Enough people complaining that we always lose. Enough people complaining! You want solutions? I'll give you them. Requirements. Teamspeak. At the raid, iv'e noticed that only about one half of the members are on our server. What's wrong with that? In a crowded area with things happening here and there, it's hard to see a pile. Teamspeak will give you the pile called directly from the warlord, no hassle, and easy to use. No Teamspeak = YOUR NOT ATTENDING. Levels. Now with summoning, getting into WG will be much easier than before. Keep f2p reqs at 100, but raise p2p to 107. That will keep summoning 'pures' out. Activity. I'll admit, 2 events a week is hard to do. I would say that a certain amount of events per month would be much better. Therefore, if i'm free one weekbut busy the other, I would be fine. If you see this sentence, make your reply in italics to prove you have read it. Make Bounty Hunter trips a 2 weeks notice, with a sign up list like we do in wars. If you can't attend, fine, you go on 0%. If you can't even find the two minutes in your day to say you can/can't the BYE. Gone from the fighting sector. The event topic get like 5 views, and people just wait until the leaders spam it in IRC. Unacceptable. Leadership. Let's face it. Snow is gone, Dz tries his best, but is busier than most of us. The warlords-in-training are having a few problems which I noticed. 1. No mics, it is crucial that ALL warlords get one. We need your piles on Teamspeak, they only cost like $10. 2. Clashing events. I know all of you are trying to get the spot, but please, don't make events over one anothers. There was two overrunning events today... fail. Recruitment. "Lol, Randy's telling me to recruit but i'm gonna ignore him and continue what i'm doing but complain at the next raid." ... I just read your mind, sorry. For real, do it. Have good friends? Ask them. It's sooo easy, just say like "Hey, you wanna join a bh/warring clan?" and either direct them to our youtube video or to search us on the web. --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 2, 2008 11:44 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | hello sir, i agree on all except the changing the minimum event thing to be 1 month, 1 week is more then anough time. if u have irl issues thats stopping that then post them but other then that u should be able to come. --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||
Posted: February 2, 2008 11:53 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: ^Ryan Group: Guest Posts: 72 Member No.: 157 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | I love the idea about a set number of events per month instead of a week. There's always weeks when I'm busy, and others when I'm not. As for recruitment, I don't have a LOT of friends that play Runescape, or the majority of them are in clans already. I'll try to find some, though. And, the last thing I'm going to comment on: Sign-up lists. This would be awesome instead of 'Everyone just show up if you can.' --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 12:00 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | Mandoraty Events , nuff said. --------------------   | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 12:13 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: ``Aaron Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1055 Member No.: 149 Joined: January 21, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 |
+1 Sorry about today. I still have more to learn and I apologize for how the war went down today. --------------------    | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 12:37 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I agree with the set number of events per month and the mandantory ts. The leaders dont really spam the piles in game/irc and it'd help so much if we could all be on the same page instead of having muliple piles going at once. -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 01:42 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: karel Group: Emeritus Posts: 1021 Member No.: 57 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 89 | Ts is very important, though mandatory events wont work, i'll tell you that now. The main thing is still recruitment. -------------------- Sig? | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 03:58 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Ret[Keith] Group: Emeritus Posts: 2049 Member No.: 86 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 82 | I can't use TS. and wtfs with people using italics -------------------- Best Firemaker in WG no lie   <--- rofl1st joined WG: October 18th, 2005. Ex-WG mod, OPH winner  ^My original idea (U GOIN DOWN TWIZ)^ 189th person to get "100" firemaking Hash Unit, Tun Unit, C-Unit    | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 05:22 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | we also need some sort of tactic, at the moment we seem to find a target and try to get it down, this may work in all out wars but in f2p minis their prayer goes down before their food does so maybe sniping? 2 piles? 3 piles? pile switches? i dont know but what we're doing now isnt working. just contructiveness not complaining =] also after a fighting event, having a recap, all that it has in it was attendance and a little note like "thank you for coming" or w/e why not have something more like how well the tactic worked, what the tactic needs working on, what worked well in it, stuff that could be used in future events whether it be bh or cw or fight pits or reverant hunting. id rather make a mistake once and learn than make the same mistake every fight. well thats me done. im not complaining like schoolboy seems to think i just want to move forward -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 08:28 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | I see you mentioned temporary leaders without mics. I resolved this issue for myself. I am still unsure of Karel_Dude or Pminogue have mics, but School_Boy19 and I do. Recruitment isn't as hard as it sounds. I already have 2 kids that plan to intro in the next couple days. -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 09:23 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | Well.. Teamspeak: I don't have a clue what it is with my laptop, but whenever I load TS on here the volume adjustment thing dissapears and I automatically can't here anything. I'll see what I can do to get it fixed, and if I do, I'll see what I can do to get a mic. Levels: Nothing to say here, I'll happily train up to 107. Activity: I like to think I'm pretty active in fighting  Leadership: I cannot reply to this  Recruitment: I have no clanless rs friends. So, I recruit a randomer. I have done, 2 of them infact, one failed to register, the other posted and never returned. So yeah. --------------------  | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 10:21 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | Yeah some of it I agree with. No offence to any of the raid leaders, but I think ts HAS to be a requirement. You can't lead without it, you're not going to be fast enough. Communicating on mirc/clan chat is useless, it's slow. Sorry, but this is the truth. We always lose now, face it. Not enough people have the experience that only a handful of us have. Even if we get a handful of ppl, I'd only count maybe 2/3 that I trust to fight decently. Recruiting, of course. We need members, but not those randoms you pick up with no experience. We need experienced fighters here. The only thing I won't do, is ask somebody random in wg to join. It's so cheap, I hate doing it. I'd rather actually target ppl that are actually looking for a clan, those with past experience. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||
Posted: February 3, 2008 11:33 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: RobbieThe1st Group: Founder Posts: 770 Member No.: 2 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 49 | I don't like italics. Enough said. Requirements - Why make any distinction between P2P and F2P players? Just use the F2P combat calc when checking each person. This way, if a P2P person becomes F2P, they are still above the requirements. Actually, I would go farther, and implement more specific requirements on defense & hit-points, attack & str, and mage or range. So, instead of 100 combat as a requirement, you might have say... 160 def+hitpoints, and (160 atk+str or 85 mage or 90 range). Or something. This means that pures would not be able to get in, being as there is a defense and hit-points requirement. TeamSpeak wise, while I myself am a fan of it, I do not want it as a requirement. It does aid in finding piles, but it does increase lag for people NOT on broadband connections. I mean, Runescape generally requires less than 2kb/sec, while TeamSpeak requires 12kb/sec(not sure on the numbers, but those are high. I know that TeamSpeak requires several times the amount Runescape requires). Not much, sure, but on dialup, it is quite a lot, and in wars, you need the extra bandwidth to not lag so much. Activity wise, yes, that might be a good suggestion. Leadership wise, I completely agree. I am working on getting some various tools working for our Sector Leaders, so they can do grunt-work, including changing ranks. Our precious council time need not be wasted on such things. Recruitment, while it might be easy in theory, its not quite as easy in reality, especially when the number of people on Runescape at any one time is less than HALF the level it was just a couple months ago - We haven't seen such levels for years! On to comments: Mandatory events do NOT work! We have tried them several times, and it has failed each time. We get LESS attendance with them, not more, and we end up losing a good portion of our members in the process. TeamSpeak for leaders, sure. Thats fair enough. I would however say that, at least for me, its easier to type a bit on irc, which I have always off to the side, always visible, in a different window, than to attempt to get peoples attention on TeamSpeak. -RobbieThe1st -------------------- Old Avatar - Paypal donation link  I am left handed, and proud of it! Retired from RuneScape. Old forum posts: 2275(s4+s10+wg.com)+1759(z6 old account)+474(z6 new account) Total: 4508 Join date: 4/16/05 | Get Firefox 3.5 now: http://www.getfirefox.com | RobbieSwich for Firefox | ||
Posted: February 4, 2008 05:40 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: pminogue Group: Ex-Member Posts: 277 Member No.: 108 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 50 | I cant use a mic, im deaf lol activity and recruting are a priority i think i posted thwe procedures of the mini vs mod in enough detail, as far as tactics went --------------------  | ||
Posted: February 4, 2008 07:30 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
thats a very good reason not to have ts -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 4, 2008 08:21 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pazenon Group: Emeritus Posts: 1477 Member No.: 33 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 79 | Recruitment is a thing that only Lordy can do, in a perfect way. He says he will use the IRL event footage as a recruitment video, that will really get members to know how great our community is; we will get them pouring here. Leaders and war organisement - we don't have any experienced raid leaders in the fighting sector except Snow, who's away; and DZ, who's busy. Mandatory events should be only once or twice a month, not more. They make members feel that they are forced to do things in the clan. Making one or two mandatory events a month gives us a reputation boost (as we get many options to a mandatory raid/war). Monthly event requirements: I agree. There should be a monthly event requirement; due to the fact that current weekly requirements are not enforced, nobody is enforcing them precisely. Making monthly event requirements will give the leaders an easier job to do, plus they will give the members a better chance to attend events, throwing away their individual circumnstances on a certain week. TeamSpeak should be a requirement in wars. It does not lag much, maybe for certain people will certain connections. They should be required because the Warlord can speak freely there - with members listening to them; they don't have to talk. TS piling is alot faster, and more effective, than in game spamming. -------------------- | ||
Posted: February 4, 2008 12:38 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | Yeah it's not secret I'm not very active, but I'm still trying my damn best and I think it's pretty good. Exams two weeks ago when I first got this spot, new classes (much harder ones than I had) started Friday, I've lost interest playing RS for a pass time (warring and raids are the only thing I enjoy in this game, PvP) and I'm F2P right now (membership takes weeks to renew) so I guess that's even less interest for me to log in. I'm still on the IRC all day every day, so I do see things people have to say/rant about and I take note of them. As for manditory events I would like to put them into action but like Robbie has pointed out, we've tried them before (I was in the clan when we've tried) and it hasn't worked so I don't think it would work here and now. The trial raid leaders (when I say this I mean honestly NO OFFENSE at all to you four) aren't that experienced, there's no denying that. But everyone has to start somewhere. All may not have mics, but I'm sure they can get some (obviously not Katie, that's an exception). They may not have the best leadership skills right now but it's something that builds with time. Remember, they are just trials right now and in about a week I'm promoting the final 2 or 3. gtg 2 school now bye -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||
Posted: February 4, 2008 01:33 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Kwaichi Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1827 Member No.: 65 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 119 | Mandatory events: k but not every week and not at midnight plz  seriously I havent seen more then 20 WG members on one event for ages  Recruitment is a problem for me because all my non wg friends are in a clan ( clans of my good firends so i cannot ruint these clans ) or cant speak english  TS I have it... but to be truthful i sometime dont use it because of lags I THINK MOST IPORTANT IS ATTENDANCE, WE HAVE OVER 50 PPL AND IF ONLY 1/2 WILL ATTEND IT WILL BE EXCELLENT. BUT IF PPL SHOUL ATTEND MOST IMPORTANT IS TIME OF EVENTS. ( 4pm - 8 pm gtm is best  ) --------------------  | ||
Posted: February 6, 2008 02:27 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | Mandatory events will never work in any clans.. The thought of being forced to attend is not the bright side of life for anyone... Recruitment can't be done much better than we already do. Not before Lordy gets back imo.. I post occasionally on public forums, but almost every topic is filled with WG material. Leadership.. I don't know much, but the fighting sector could use more leadership. It's not as active as it used to be. -------------------- | ||
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