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Posted: July 13, 2008 11:35 am  | |||
     IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112    | Time for a real leaving topic from me I suppose. These past couple of months have seen both dizzying highs and crushing lows but at the end of it all, the overall memories from WG will be good ones. I choose to leave for a number of reasons, some personal some public. Perhaps the main reason being the fact that WG has completely lost the spark it once had. 2005/6 really were WG's prime years. We were a force to be reckoned with and on the P2P scene, not even DI/RoT could stop us. If it weren't for the fact that we didn't mage bank Pk, we would have been ranked  1 P2P. I'm certain of it. Such a shame.That was then and this is now. A lot has changed. I feel a lot of the love and that community tighter than a nun's pussy has all but been lost over time. Today no more than 10 of those guys are left in WG. I see members get spoken down to, rather than across to by the leadership. Although equally i see members talk down to leaders like they are a piece of shit on their shoe. Either way there is little respect for the leadership for WG. This was exemplified when Eugene got shunned over the crucio incident after all he's done for this clan. One leader, who is now council, replied with "Bye". What an arrogant little shit. I know exactly how Eugene felt because what everyone here forgets is, for 4 months from dec 06 (D-day) to march 07, I led WG on my own. Eugene was inactive, the only other two council; Georgio and Xena were inactive and I pulled WG up from 3 person raids to 30 person raids over that period. I worked my fucking ass off right before the Draken Burst incident and similarly to what happened to Eugene, all my work prior to that event was overlooked majorly. I don't want a medal but some recognition and a little respect would have been nice. I feel this clan has now become preoccupied with gaining members above training and perfecting the qualities of the members we already have. Lets take the CWPL for example. When it first started we pulled 50, then 60, then 70 people to our wars until one week; we got dominated due to our large turnout but lack of organization. As a result of that each successive week we pulled less and less people to the fights. I could name 10 WG and put them up against 20 other WG; and the 10 would win. Because theres a huge gap between the seasoned fighters and the newbs that are still learning. They need to learn if you ever want to get better. Organization > Numbers. WG has never been able to grasp that. I've found from my time in WG people will tell you they're still your friend after things happen to ruin your once strong friendship, but they never actually show it and never talk to you again. It's like they tell you they're your friend to shut you up. I find some of the members of this clan so false I really just can't stand it anymore. I guess I'm rambling. I won't post personal goodbyes because that would be mean, as I'd have some pretty harsh words to say to certain individuals. My friends know who they are. I'd like to make clear that my leaving was not influenced by any other member of WG. Well as a matter of fact, it's because collectively you've all managed to kill the community between yourselves. But I will give a few shoutouts to those of you guys that have really made my WG experience memorable - Eugene, Zach, Jaxx, Cam, Simon, Jenny, Rachel, Tom, Goobershmea, Groe, Lacy, Jason, Rob, Starz, Pyroclastic, Fairy, Glenn, Matt, Ryan, Tabs, Owen, Mango, Mike, Kenshln, Zenia and many many more. Those are just the names that popped into my head. I'll miss you all. Where to now? I'm undecided. In real life I'd really like to either be in employment by September or be starting college course. Music/Psychology/Maths/That-sort-of-shit. Runescape? Who knows. I really don't know what more to say. Funny thing is after I post this, I'll most probably think of a dozen things I should have added. [email protected] is my MSN. 07846882364 is my number. #nut is my IRC channel. Stay in touch guys. Take care and for your own sakes, don't let this wonderful clan die. -Steve -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:38 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: chappell44 Group: Clan Friend Posts: 500 Member No.: 148 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | gl steve i really have to agree and ill always be in ur chan like i always am -------------------- msn id = [email protected] | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:40 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Flippie||Afk Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1708 Member No.: 55 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | i never really got to know you, but i got a lot of respect for you.. and if its your time to go, i won't stop you. Good luck with everything you'll ever do  -------------------- http://www.myspace.com/ZitherBand Support my Friends!  | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:43 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: spanthrax Group: Ex-Member Posts: 813 Member No.: 29 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 37 | im sad to see you go stoke. i know we had some dis agreements but i still saw us as good friends. take care of yourself. ill be sure to stop by and say hi as often as i can. your efforts and dedication to WG will be missed. gl steve --------------------   | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:45 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | Steve, what you said is true. The community of WG has diminshed and a few members are left to hold the burden, alot of people see this. You and Maths being the main ones. You have been in WG alot longer than myself and we have had our fallings out, i'm not going to tell you to stay because in the end i want what is best for you in the long run. You will always be a friend in my eyes and i will always stay in contact with you. I am always in your channel and i will always be there if you need someone to turn too. Good luck in the future Steve. Lots of Luv, Simon x -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer   | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:51 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Robertw56 Group: Guest Posts: 1908 Member No.: 15 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 118 | Argh good bye Steve..... --------------------    | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:55 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | Even though i've been here for ages on and off, never really made the effort to get to know you that well (or anyone else lately for that matter) even though you have also been around for a fair amount of time. Just like to say you seemed like the kind of person who could have a fun time and that's what i liked about you, and many others who are like that, and wish you luck in life. -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 11:56 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pyroclastic0 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 1158 Member No.: 35 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 221 | i'll try to see you around. I know what your saying the atomsphere and stuff. I'm going to quit runescape i think anyway, don't have time for it. Good luck finding a job or going to college and hope you find a nice girl that doesn't mess you around (don't think they exist very much though). Was always fun pking with you from the very first rune kills. Look after yourself. If not you can always live with me -------------------- Having a fight on the internet is alot like the participating in the special olympics you may win, but you're still retarded
Best pker + most mature summer awards 2011 | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 12:18 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | I honour your goodbye. I read it very thouroughly and I am in full agreement. You have pointed out some things that have just made me decide I don't want to come back. We both know we'll be in touch with each other. Steve, this was a bad day for WG, and I hope whatever you do makes you happy. I'm not going to give you advice like a lot of other people because it is clear to me you have looked at this from every perspective with rational logic, and I applaud the thought you've given it. My own personal feelings are a mixture of relief and sadness. In my heart you were a pillar of WG's identity and they will be losing a lot in this departure. Your leaving signals the close of the old shcool community - I don't say that lightly. There may be veterans in WG... but you were the one that upheld the values of the old WG, while everyone else changed around you. WG's community is now completely foreign to my tastes. That makes me very sad. On the other hand, I'm glad that you are free of it all. And I think this is a positive direction for you to take your life. On an even more personal note, I really do want to meet up with you and share a beer (but not Smirnoff Vodka). You are one of the highlights of my WG and larger online experience. This is how your story goes with me. I didn't pay much attention to you until you killed me in a p2p fight. Then you gave me back a few items and I remembered you well for a long time. Soon you were a leader in WG and when D-Day happened, you were one of the few people that helped me and you almost single-handedly carried WG out of it, with the help of Georgio on the side. When Mara came along we were already good friends. When she took you away I was devastated but thank God you came back. We got to know each other but then came the IRL Meeting. Well... you know what went down there from the moment I shook your hand to the moment the ambulance driver put your vomit-covered jacket in a plastic bag, that was the most incredible day of my 6 week holiday. And ever since then you've been a distinct character in my mind; one who fashioned my image of WG. And since that day you killed me to this day you've left my clan, you've always been faithful to the true WG traditions that everyone else has forgotten. You are so much more than a member. With you gone, WG has only one or two members left that are faithful to the old ways, and they know who they are. Until we speak again, take good care. WG, you have lost one of your greatest assets. I beg you to hold on to what you have left. Address the community standards. --------------------  | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 12:25 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | hmm well i do understand what your saying as i have witnessed it in clans before, i do respect you for what you have done and even though weve hardly spoken i know ive enjoyed it when your around Good Luck in the future Steve, maybe ill join your channel. ~Steve -------------------- | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 12:32 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jaxx Group: Ex-Member Posts: 365 Member No.: 109 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 2 |
I totally agree and have made rant posts about it. Steve you were always the comedien in WG. Will be thoroughly missed. Emurtis is better anyway. --------------------    | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 12:37 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Stokenut Group: Guest Posts: 2062 Member No.: 805 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 112 | Eugene your reply really made me smile, but also made me realize what a great friend I have in you. I'll never forget what happened in London... well, what i can remember of it lol I enjoyed reading your reply more than you might understand. I still remember saying "oh fuck i killed lordy" on TS. What i wouldn't give to have those days back again. These memories will never fade away. I promise all of you that much. And yes, we must meet again some day for a beer. To the rest of you, thanks so much for the replies. They mean a lot. -------------------- Over 6 years of history and friendship, deleted over a difference in an opinion. --- Challenge any creationist to a debate. They'll run away and aggressively accuse you of "attacking" them and their "beliefs". I'm sorry, please, keep teaching our kids that they'll burn in hell if they don't believe. Mutilate their genitals against their will while you're at it. Keep influencing politics and holding back vital scientific research. I'll just keep my mouth shut to "respect" your "beliefs". | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 12:39 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: ``Jordan Group: Ex-Member Posts: 253 Member No.: 56 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Steve  I agree with everything you wrote there, just some very good points. And I agree, 05/06 were WG's prime, good ole days. Yep, things change, and that's the sad reality of life. Man, best of luck to you. I know have such a rough life, but you'll get through. We had some good times at the Arena, and of course, the great times with WG. You will be missed. Take it easy buddy! ~Jordan --------------------   ~~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~``Jordan on IRC`~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~~ ~~~~~~~~~First joined WG October 31st, 2005~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ex-Raid Leader~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 12:54 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Cam Group: Ex-Member Posts: 749 Member No.: 24 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | C ya you in #nut steve  You'll always be part of the GMT late night unit --------------------  Halo 3 - General Grade 3 ~ CoD4 - 10th Prestige 55 ~ MW2 - 9th Prestige 50 Joined WG 8th August 2006 - Im old School son | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 01:07 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Nirvanas Group: Ex-Member Posts: 334 Member No.: 240 Joined: February 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | I don't really feel I have the right to reply. I was only in WG for a short period, and I don't know you very well. But when I was in WG I always felt you were on a pedestal. Not because you're mean or harsh in anyway, but because you always seemed to be the epitome of a WG member, someone that people should take example from. I now see why you were the epitome of a WG member, because you shaped WG to be that way. Yet another of the pillars supporting WG has departed. I wish you the best, you're a great guy. -------------------- Safe as fuck mate, safe as fuck | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 02:06 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | I've known you for a while now Stoke, you have your good and bad points. But overall, you are an amaizing member of WG. I will miss you alot because WG realy has no tradition with you and Lordy gone. WG is coming away from old ways and no one cares. I was never realy considerd a good friend by you but you were always a good friend to me. Take care and good luck IRL Steve. ~Mickey --------------------   | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 02:11 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | FUCK no not steve cmon man not you were losing so many good members already but you? You were an inspiration to me stoke no matter how pervy you got in chat or on forums i looked up to you. You were sort of like a big brother to me. Im really going to miss you stoke you were one of the coolest wg members here. I know wg's shit right now but they've pulled through worst and you and i both remember and know that. Whatever you do with your life stoke take care and btw im going to be visiting you next year with ali . -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 02:21 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pazenon Group: Emeritus Posts: 1477 Member No.: 33 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 79 | I really don't know what to say... I agree with everything you have said about the WG we know today. You were an inspiration to this clan. -------------------- | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 02:52 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Darth Hansen Group: Ex-Member Posts: 237 Member No.: 126 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | Bye Steve, you were a good guy. Good luck with everything. --------------------  | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 02:57 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I respect your decision Steve, hope we can stay in touch take care. ~Ali -------------------- | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 03:05 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | It was nice to know you Steve. I agree with alot that you've said, and we'll try our best to improve things. You were always honest and I know alot of people appreciated it. I have alot of respect for you, and I hope things turn out well for you. Gl IRL and Gl in Tbe if thats where you're going next Today WG has lost one of its greatest -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 03:08 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: ``Pete Group: Banned Posts: 913 Member No.: 775 Joined: June 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 49 | losing a good member here.. i didn't speak to you much but you seemed like a good guy. You'll be missed in WG for sure. GL in whatever you do next steve. ~~pete~~ -------------------- Mikel Arteta  Tim CahillNothing But The Best | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 03:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | left speechless just know I love you very much. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 04:50 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | I want to thank you for all the "licks" I have received over the years, this place is definately not a home to me without you all in it. I never thought I would see the day when Stoke and Eugene both would be gone. Its like I was in a dream, then I woke up and there is nothing familiar or comforting around me anymore. I have always had a small piece of my heart for you Steve, and have longed to take you in and truly take care of you. You bring out the mothering caring instinct in me like few others have done. If you ever need me you know my TS addy or if I am on irc let me know. You are a true sweet legend of a guy and I doubt I will be far behind you. Take care sweetie. Love Jenny --------------------   | ||
Posted: July 13, 2008 04:56 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | OMG STEVE!! Today is not a good day.. not at all. Why .. Why now? You were the one that made me wanted to stay in WG. Now your gonna leave? I don't know what to say but I can't stop you. I completely agree with what you said. There's not doubt that everything you said isn't true. It is very true.. But Wg will never be the same without you. No one will ever be able to replace you. You've done so much for the clan and you've always been there for anyone who's ever needed help. Your a great person Steve.. I hope you know that. You've been there for me when I first started Wg and despite what we went through you were still there for me. You never gave up . You pay attention to things rather than just seeing it there. You look into detail and you really pay attention. It hurts me knowing your leaving . Idk as I said to you before.. Yes the clan has changed but there are still most members here that I still want to be here with them. As I told you before.. I made a post on this forum. I only said nice things to that person.. and that person replied with a rude comment not knowing me and judging me already. And then some of the members just told me i better beware of him, avoid him, he's a rebel, or just let it go.. I mean come on what member of the clan goes against another member and letting someone attack them. Clearly this states either they don't like you or either they don't give a damn about who you are. Makes me think twice does this clan really just let anyone come and be rude to our members. Instead of telling people who comes on this forum to respect our members.. they just let anyone come and be rude anyway they want.. It just makes that person thinks " Oh hell yeah i can do whatever i want and noone could stop me". Thats how they've made it seem already cause clearly instead of telling that person .." Hey if your gonna come around the forums please respect our members.. " They make it seem more of " haha you just got told" Idk what to say anymore.. I really am sad to see you go. You always have me added and always remember I'll always be here for you. Your just going through a hard time and not everyone is understanding you atm. You've been a good example in many ways. Not alot of people know how you are .. but on a one on one conversation you really do show you care and you have such a caring heart. Your very smart and you know what your doing, what your saying and you know how to deal with any situation. Please take care of yourself for me. Good luck to you in the future Steve. You mean alot to this clan and i hope everyone else sees that too. As for Eugene's situation.. I agree with you too.. I just saw that alot of people came down on him. That was one of the reason i wanted to quit before. Eugene has done so much for this clan and in the end he gets shot down. If that could happen to Eugene.. It could easily happen to any of us. I just see it as the respect isn't there anymore.. What's happening to everyone? Idk.. But Eugene will always be a Leader in my eyes and he will always have my full respect. <33 Its not goodbye for us Steve. Its just a farewell until I talk to you next time. You still have me added on msn and I'll keep you added there. If there is anything you need or if you want to talk.. you know how to contact me. Please take care and hope all goes well for you. You'll be forever missed. -Lacy -------------------- | ||
Time for Stoke to go