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Posted: July 19, 2008 03:27 pm  | |||||
    IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1    | The fact that you are reading this post means that you still care about WG in some regard. It may not be the WG you remember, and there may be things wrong with it that aren't being acknowledged. Use this to make threads about memories, rants, suggestions, your thoughts overall, whatever. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 03:35 pm | |||||
  IRC Nickname: ``Jordan Group: Ex-Member Posts: 253 Member No.: 56 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | I'm just glad to see that you are making steps to try and improve the community, Thomas. Hopefully, some good feedback will be generated  --------------------   ~~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~``Jordan on IRC`~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~~ ~~~~~~~~~First joined WG October 31st, 2005~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ex-Raid Leader~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 03:49 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Take me off please. I have no interest in fixing WG. I have no emotion or feeling invested. And even if I did, this is not a WG I know about. If you need help going old school I can do that but that's it. This WG, I have no idea about. And I don't want to know it. So take me off. I'm done. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 04:17 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | I still don't get it, who has access here? I have ex-member and im pretty sure thats not staff -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 04:18 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | Panther, all ex-wg staff and the current Wg staff. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 04:20 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | oh so if i was staff i have access i get it. memories lordy talkin to me about how to get a girl in bed... when i was 13 and he thought i was 16 havoc angel and me pking out in the wildy in dg when we went to our first wg + dg vs some other clan and there junior clan war lots of memories there gone now doesnt matter -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011 http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 04:53 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Starzhine Group: Emeritus Posts: 447 Member No.: 218 Joined: February 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | Thanks for sharing Havoc.  Thank you Thomas for creating this topic, one of the things I missed most when I stepped down from council was being able to be more deeply involved in the workings of WG. I am broken hearted over Lordy's reaction. Some time one of you must explain to me what happened there. Why is Gene so bitter. Most of the clan loves him. I do not get it. WG  --------------------  WG love forever, Kristy  | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 05:34 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
Your valiant stand has been noted. However you may simply choose to ignore this, you aren't losing the mask. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 19, 2008 07:10 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | Well its good that you made this forum. It shows there is still some member-leader communication. EDIT: Thanks to Abs for coming to me and straightening it out. I feel much better about it all now. But remember, the key thing is to actually talk to the people, not take their suggestions away from them and hold a business meetings. Hopefully we'll see a suggestions forum with more council response (doesn't have to be extensive by any means, just a note to show that people's concerns are listened to). However, I really hope its listened to, and not just put up there as a vent, so to speak. Mostly, I'd just like someone to take the effort to read this - http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...?showtopic=3874 - I spent quite a while writing that up, because I really did care for what could make WG a better place for everyone. After the effort, not one leader out of 6 took any effort in reading it. And in the topic itself, I highlight how the suggestions forum is almost completely ignored by leadership, as if its some sort of sandpit for the non-leaders. Its really depressing that a council, a team that is designed to bring forward the concerns of the people, barely ever touches that forum, the forum which offers the ideal link between members and council. And its this lack of communication that is one of the things the old schoolers are getting pissed off about. This is not simply change which can be flaunted and ignored, its degradation. One thing that everyone requires to be part of a team is a voice, and the voice of people is becoming more and more constricted. Sorry to appear a pain in the ass, but its fustrating to have advice and to face the backs of anyone its applicable to. I love being optimistic, but more often then not, you've got to leap over the fence to get into the good meadows. -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow"  | ||||
Posted: July 20, 2008 06:25 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Oi Mike. I read that and we talked at length about it in a pm. Sorry I can't really help in a massive way towards it (since I'm not council), but I will do my best in what we talked about... --------------------    | ||||
Posted: July 21, 2008 03:12 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: General199 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1073 Member No.: 318 Joined: March 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | Go back to warring. It draws in the crowds. Chop down the memberlist down to around 80-90 people with like 60-70 active for most fights. Bump requirements to 105+ for Trial and 107+ for full member. Work your way up to 110+ for member and you guys will be good. Haha. Or just stick to community events and little warring. Either way its cool. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: July 21, 2008 03:32 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
Wars don't mean anything now, or at least they shouldn't. You might as well go to castle wars and dress up in your expensives to fight. Cause either way you don't lose your stuff anymore. WG always was more of a community based clan, we had periods of no war allowed, even no raiding for a while, we always tried to have a healthy community first. I believe thats what this generation of Guardians needs is a good dose of excellent community, not more war. Sure it "draws in the crowds" but does it draw in your good quality members? No it draws in people wanting to use WG as a stepping stone to reach the DI's and DS's (shoot I don't even know if those clans exist anymore they were just good from when I played so sorry if thats an off reference). -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 21, 2008 10:23 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Tnuac Group: Emeritus Posts: 1806 Member No.: 51 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 58 | Lol panth, DS died over a year ago. I agree. As I told someone yesterday, i cant remember who =s, WG was never designed to be a warring clan. Its too broad and diverse. Turning into a warring clan and raising requirements makes it unstable. Sure, only keep active people and encourage people to train, but I don't agree with a requirement boost. As panth says, if we do too much warring, we'll just be a stepping stone (but not for dead clans). -------------------- ~Aetas: carpe diem quam minimum credula postero~ "Seize the day and place no trust in tomorrow" | ||||
Posted: July 21, 2008 12:49 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | Lol, sorry, I haven't been too active in the world of clans recently  -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 21, 2008 11:43 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Matt|Georgio9 Group: Emeritus Posts: 706 Member No.: 94 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 |
You're not alone in that area panther-cat --------------------   | ||||
Posted: July 22, 2008 01:10 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
Well I have a right being retired for a few years and still not being as active as i used to now. By the way why haven't I talked to you since I came back, my goodness you got 99 smithing!! You've been busy I guess -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 22, 2008 02:33 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Group: Emeritus Posts: 318 Member No.: 21 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 1 | This forum is possibly the best idea I've seen in awhile. Just seeing all these faces together brings back so many memories. --------------------  *Proud* Former leader of the Wilderness Guardians  ^Not Reticked's idea, mine tbh (FOR REAL NO JOKE OMG)^ | ||||
Posted: July 22, 2008 12:06 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Palidore Group: Emeritus Posts: 152 Member No.: 75 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | I do say, this is the best new forum since yours truly created the House of Random! Brilliant! But really, thanks . It's nice to have this forum. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: July 22, 2008 01:12 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: General199 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1073 Member No.: 318 Joined: March 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | Well look at it this way. Doing all your community stuff and what not with a 100+ person memberlist makes the clan look worse then what you guys are. It allows for over 100 people look inactive when 10 people show to a community event. Oh and if you actually believe that any clan with lower 100s requirements is not a stepping stone to the higher tier clans than you need a reality check. That is why the higher tier clans made junior clans. They would use the junior clans to funnel in new recruits that start down around lvl 85 or whatever. Warring is where it is all at these days. Yes you dont lose anything, warring is the most fun in the game. Yes I know some people like Rachel are not the best at warring and maybe do not like it but she was always the one willing to do her best at getting better and training for warring. Cwpl was a great thing for Wg. It gave full out wars which are hard to get seeing as you have such a huge memberlist for a clan out of the top 10. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 22, 2008 04:38 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
If only 10 people are willing to do a community event then WG has truly strayed off course. This is (or was) a community based clan. If there are 10 good solid members that care about the clan more than getting loot and a rush from a war, then let those 10 members be WG, because if all you want to do is war, this isn't your clan. By the way I said that people use this clan as a stepping stone if all they do is war. If they really care about the community, they won't go to another clan because this clan used to be the best community in the world of clans. I couldn't ever go to another clan, WG's community was so great it spoiled me. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 22, 2008 07:37 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: General199 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1073 Member No.: 318 Joined: March 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | You have biased view. You have not been around to see other clans communities. And yes only about 10 people lately have been showing to community events. You hadnt seen recaps. One thing it could be is Wg might have been scared of change. The clan world is constantly changing and I think the clan world is straying away from community based clans... I.e. TDM, WG, etc. I dont know how to explain it all but we can go back and forth with this day after day but all it comes down to is that the clan world and most people in the clan world now dont want community. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 23, 2008 12:22 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Palidore Group: Emeritus Posts: 152 Member No.: 75 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | I, on the other hand, do not have a biased view. WG has been my only RS clan, yet since I stopped playing RS a long time ago, I've been a part of clans, guilds, kinships in whatever game you can imagine. LotRO, WoW, GW, AoC, and non-rpgs such as TF2, BF2, etc. And out of all of those clans, I still have not ever, and I don't think I ever will, come across a clan that comes close to how great WG was in its earlier days. The majority of the clans back in those days and still today all just feel like the same, generic clan at its core. All the clans these days only care about wars, pvp, being on top, instant gratification. That's what made WG different and special. We did something out of the norm. We actually cared about community, cared about the players. Hell, our clan was founded upon the idea of anti-pking; defending the innocent in the wilderness. Panther got it right. Too many people just use WG as a stepping stone, or just to feel the glory of war at the end of the day- riding with us in the high tide, and abandoning ship when something better comes along. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 23, 2008 03:05 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
My response to this is exactly Palidore's second paragraph. Our community makes (made) us different. If people truly do not care about community, then this really isn't their clan, I mean something is wrong with the community when Lordy leaves, Rick Hamm is banned on sight and Docster has a rant. That is what has happened, nobody cares about the community and that needs to happen before any sort of war can take place. It's like a team I played against in high school, all fine great athletes but haven't won in 4 years cause they aren't good teammates. Sure WG can have the level 120+ guys, but will they be any good without quality clan-building community events. You must build a clan like you build a team, the chemistry must be there or you will be a band of selfish people rather than a band of brothers/sisters. WG has always strived to be close knit from member to member, having every member be close to eachother. If what you say means it is not this way anymore, then its been a bigger fall than I imagined. A team (clan) is only as strong as its weakest link. If the weakest link is community, than the clan becomes a barbaric war mongering group that is the exact opposite of what a Wilderness Guardian is meant to be. Killing is not a Guardian's talent but it is his heart and willingness to help others and make close friends. That is what a Wilderness Guardians experience is, not to go to war and have no community base. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 24, 2008 02:43 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: General199 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1073 Member No.: 318 Joined: March 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | His Lordship left on his own terms. He flipped out because someone posted a leaving post with a ton of pictures of His Lordship flaming him. His Lordship didnt want to abuse powers because he had founder rank so he went around asking people that could change the post. We all said no so he decided to take it in his own hands and change the post himself. He took out all the pictures. So we gave him shit for abusing his powers when he had no right to. So then he flipped because we where "abusing" him. And making him feel bad for the shit that he did. He was in the wrong, he knows it but he just wanted to have the guilt not left on him. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: July 25, 2008 02:27 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 |
People annoy people, he's the founder of the clan none of this would be here without people like him and Rick Hamm. If he seriously flamed someone, there was a reason, and likely a good one. -------------------- | ||||
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