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Posted: August 8, 2008 09:47 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55    | Okay, so at the Real Life meeting, while with Gene and Zach, I realised a few things. Firstly, the people who make this clan what it is... what it was, don't care any more. Gene is done with WG, Zach is done with WG, Thomas, Mickey, I could go on. Secondly, the people still here who matter, are too few and far between, too inactive, or too outspoken to help rebuild WG; Jenny, James, George. The true veterans of this clan, of what WG can and has been, are no longer respected as they should be. I bet half of you don't even know who Jenny, James and George are. This "New" school era of WG has no place for us veterans any more. Unfortunately, I also think this "New" school has no place for what WG is any more. They want WG to be something it isn't; Perfect. The truth is, since it's inception WG has never been perfect, the only thing perfect about WG was the members. But now everything has switched, members are striving for perfection from an exterior perspective. They want the people who aren't in the clan to see WG as perfect. Whereas before, it was the people inside that mattered. Where before the members were perfect, and maybe warring/skilling weren't, now the majority of the clan wants warring/skilling to be perfect, but this is costing in the value of members of the clan. Flame me all you want for 'insulting' the member base, but anyone who has been here longer than 18 months will see it's true. WG was never about being number 1, even at it's prime it was not about being the best compared to other clans. It was about being the best it could be for the people in it. Now in it's quest for interclan perfection, it is driving away it's core members, the people who started this clan, the people who built this clan up, allowed casual gamers a place to hang out rather than expecting them to devote their entire online life to the clan, friends. In my opinion, WG should have closed with the removal of the wilderness, that was Gene's biggest mistake. WG is not WG without the wilderness, it's what the clan was built for, a voice of the voiceless, Shield of the Innocent. Now it's like any other clan, there's nothing seperating WG from any of the other clans in RS. Community? What community? The keystones of the clan, the people who make the community are leaving, inactive or outnumbered. If I had the time to be active I would be, and I would try all I could to salvage something from WG, this shell of a once beautiful clan. Maybe in the future if WG is still here, which I doubt, and I have time to be active, and participate, and have input, I will return, or maybe if the people that make this clan what it was return I will be amongst them. This new, shallow, materialistic, extroverted WG is no longer a place someone like me can feel welcome. My true goodbye: I joined WG in September 2005. I made few friends at the start, my first friend was Lotte (Koshhh), but once I opened up I found a clan full of people dying to be my friend, and for this I thank you, especially Chris (Mangomaniac2), you gave me the confidence boost I would need for the next 2 and a half years, the drive to help a clan that made me feel at home, and at ease. The day I got promoted to Senior Member was one of the best days of my life, you might think, "wow, senior member, big deal", but at the time, I was one of few, and thanks to someone's (James) belief in me, I felt trusted, and honored and respected, and loved. I'm deliberately avoiding talking about RS and concentrating on the clan for a reason, it had it's problems, which resulted in the need for the appointment of Raid Leaders. Having unofficially lead a few raids myself, I felt this was my time to help, and be all I could be for this clan. I was promoted to Raid Leader alonside Apkaz and Steve (Stokenut). And it was from this day on that I began to give WG my all, sometimes to the detriment of my personal life. Later on in my WG career (And after a few empassioned rants and leaving posts), I ran for council. I was succesful, and did my best to be a bridge between the Council and it's members. I always had the best interests of this clan at heart, and made major sacrifices to help anyone that needed it. When the decision was made to ban Rick Hamm, I decided to take responsibility for it, despite being friends with him. I hoped to soften the blow, to reason with him. Rick had always had my back, and I felt awful for what I was doing to him and our friendship. This ruined our friendship, the bridges were burnt so to speak. It was shortly after this, that it all started to go downhill for me, real life was catching up, and I stepped down from Council without a 2 weeks notice, for which Gene banned me. I was eventually unbanned, and later on allowed to rejoin, but I never again had the opportunity to help WG as I once had. I had started University, and simply didn't have the time, but I still kept in touch with friends. I had a brief stint of activity, but it was shortlived. Which brings us to the present. My reasons for leaving having already been posted, I have nothing left to say but thankyou, and goodbye. WG has given me some great times, and some hard times, but always felt like home. Until now. I'd do shoutouts, but I don't want to leave anyone out.  Cheers for the good times. Health is Beauty. But WG needs some liposuction. Owen PS. Contact details: MSN: [email protected] Xbox Live Gamertag: BassistBowen www.myspace.com/bassistbowen -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 09:55 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zeth Group: Emeritus Posts: 1839 Member No.: 17 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 | You will be missed by many. I myself got accepted into WG by you and I still remember you no-lyphing bandits....awwww.... Good Bye  --------------------  Joined WG - 24th of June 2007 - Never left. | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 10:02 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Jesus Christ. You had better keep in touch with me. I hope you know that we've got a little more than WG and RS in common. Look, it's not that much of a surprise considering both of our attitudes in the IRL meeting, and I get where you are coming from. I hope as an ex-member you'll hang around and share some shit with me and the other old school ex members here. If you don't keep in touch, I will be very sad. I feel even more sad for WG. I feel the avalanche growing. I will be making a post in a private forum giving my advice for WG. Since too many of my friends have left, I will not be returning, but I will give you some solemn advice. More on that in another post. Owen, talking to you during your time in WG has always been a pleasure. You are easy going and we go way back. I first really noticed you when you became a raid leader, and even more after you were diagnosed with chronic depression. I still have the picture of you on the beat with longer hair and a guitar. Brings back the goold old memories. You were a critical member to the identity of this clan, and the biggest shame is that hardly anyone here will remember your story. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 10:02 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | Hmmm, I struggle to think what to say here.... Sadly I am a little too new school to have ever seen you in a leadership position Owen, I think (though my memory is hazy, I could be wrong) that I first began looking into WG in your final few months as a leader. Throughout my 14 ish months in WG I have always had a fair bit of respect for you, since the early days you were allways one of the higher level'd members  I wish you luck wherever you go Owen, though I doubt you'll need it. ~Evil --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 10:03 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | You've put some things in perspective for the WG of now. I only hope they'll help. Anyway, Best of luck Owen. I"m sure you'll do great. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 11:38 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
That picture alone defines the mark that you leave in wg. Farewell, owen. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:41 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | It's sorry to see you go Owen, you will be missed by many. I wish you the very best. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer   | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:45 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | I always enjoyed your raid leading back in the days and I always found you as a good leader. Good luck in the future Owen. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 12:49 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jesseh Group: Guest Posts: 2670 Member No.: 297 Joined: March 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 222 |
^ +1 You will be sorely missed. --------------------   17/6/08--> 12/9/08--> 29/11/08--> 5/1/09--> 2/3/09(Left)--> 19/7/09(Rejoin)--> 2/8/09
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Posted: August 8, 2008 01:48 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Hamad Group: Emeritus Posts: 334 Member No.: 175 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 39 | Hey owen i feel the same way of how WG has changed. You will be missed and i'll stay in touch with you when i can. ~Hamad -------------------- WG since July 2004. s7, s4, s10, wg.com, z6 veterans Formerly known as 'Iron this' (banned on The 7th day of February 2006) R.I.P Msn: [email protected] | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 02:38 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: |Tezza| Group: Emeritus Posts: 1430 Member No.: 60 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 12 | Hey Owen We've been great mates for i don't even know how long now. It's sad to see such a great member like yourself leave. You have contributed so much to this clan, I'm not sure I'd even be here if it wasnt for people like you. I always looked up to ya and your friendly personality and character is what made Wg what it was. Reading your post made me think a lot about what Wg meant to me back then and how I took it for granted. It almost brought a tear to my eye knowing that we probably will never be able to get a chance at that again. It really made me consider leaving but I'm staying till the last mate leaves. Goodbye Owen, Keep it contact plz =) -------------------- Joined Wg - 18th January '05 (s4 vet) Ex-WG Moderator  | ||||
Posted: August 8, 2008 10:48 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Guests Posts: Member No.: 0 Joined: January 1, 1970 Total Events Attended: 1 | Damn Owen it was nice meeting you dude like 2 years ago lol. you were a great leader of this clan. you will be missed, thanks for telling me about muse!!! cya broski -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2008 12:42 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | I love you Owen ..always have, always will. You are so sweeti. Big Hugs, babe. Love. Jenny --------------------   | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2008 01:03 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Owen...Shit mate thus begins the beginining of the end to be honest!! keep in contact mate --------------------    | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2008 01:56 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 |
^ +1 Best of luck Owen, you deserve it and more. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2008 01:58 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Bam Group: Emeritus Posts: 2762 Member No.: 131 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 111 | you say what every one's thinking..it's just that we all are too scared to fae it. there's ONLY 1 single reason why i haven't already left the clan, it's because i am too scared to lose the contact to my firends, most of people i see as friends are old kool but of ourse there are some of the new Wg too. please keep in touch --------------------  | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2008 03:17 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Owen, I remember you coming to the clan as nothing more than a snot nosed know it all. While some things never change, you did...and for the better. You were quite possibly one of my best friends in this God forsaken game. We would talk for a long time, not about RS, but about life. I too remember the picture of you sitting there with your hippie hair, sunglasses and guitar. That is how I remember you and I guess that's how I'll always remember you. If you want to lose contact with me, so be it. If you want to continue your blatant disregard for the friendship that we once had, fine. That's all on you Owen because contrary to popular opinion, I hold no grudges. You did what you had to do for the "betterment" of the clan. I'm not quite sure that banning me was good for the clan, but you made the choice. I can't blame you for the choices you made or continue to make. There has never been a time where I would see you online and NOT say hello and it will continue to be that way whether you acknowledge it or not. If you continue to insist that I'm upset with you or still mad about a stupid banning, then perhaps I was wrong about you. I have been banned so many times by so many different people, you shouldn't get to feel special about it. It's just another one of those things. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I agree with you about the path WG has taken and I have been assured by leadership that it's not the way we're perceiving it. Leadership thinks everything is all hunky dory and WG is going to flourish and will never be what it was before because it's in the past. I guess then all us older generation WG members need to take quite a few steps back to get out of firing range of the shit that's hit and is about to hit this clan. Why should we stand here and continue to face the disrespect of morons that have no inkling who we are or what we've done. Had it not been for guys (and gals, Jen  ) like us, this clan wouldn't have survived this long. Gene had a dream and his dream vanished when the wilderness did, maybe even before. The idea of WG and what it stands for is dead. Why not let it die with some dignity instead of continuing the charade that this clan is here to protect innocent people from pkers? I guess I could go on for a while about how I feel but I'll let sleeping dogs lie...for now. The very best to you Owen and as you said, I always had your back...to me that still hasn't changed. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 9, 2008 02:17 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 |
That post means alot to me Rick, more than you may know. You were a mentor to me at a time when I needed it most. I'm glad to know you still have my back, maybe some day I'll need it as well. Who knows with this clan? I'm still leaving, nothing is keeping me here, I'm just waiting for either my 3 days, or something radical that manages to keep me both in the clan, and back into RS to happen. Thankyou everyone for understanding and not being bastards about it. I'll always love this clan, always. Just like you'll always love your parents, but sometimes you have to move away. I'm a solitary kinda guy, and when you don't fit in somewhere you can't expect it to change around you, you either change yourself, or you get out. And I've made myself a promise to never change myself for anything, I've had too many problems in life caused by trying to be something I'm not. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: August 13, 2008 07:38 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Danltn Group: Guest Posts: 268 Member No.: 734 Joined: May 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 29 | Now that's a fantastic post.
One of the truest things I've ever read, you put so much effort in WG Owen, it's a total shame you're leaving but I'm not foolish enough to try and make you change your mind. Dan -------------------- I'm just Dan.  | ||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 06:23 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: ``Jordan Group: Ex-Member Posts: 253 Member No.: 56 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Owennnnnnnnn Take care man, and I believe in many things that you said, though, I just try to hand around WG for now and not leave - there is still many people here that I will like to keep in contact with. Take it easy man, you did so much for this clan and were a great leader. All the best. ~Jordan --------------------   ~~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~``Jordan on IRC`~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~~ ~~~~~~~~~First joined WG October 31st, 2005~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ex-Raid Leader~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 07:00 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rai|James Group: Ex-Member Posts: 412 Member No.: 118 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 0 | Owen... Heh. What can I say, ya drunk bastard? I love ya. You've been one of my closest friends here, yet sadly we haven't been able to catch up lately. You are one of the few I can truly think of as a brother. No matter where ya go, I'll always think of you that way. I hope all goes well for you, try to avoid hard liquor and don't die of alcohol poisoning. Write me sometime. [email protected] [email protected] Either which way, don't stray too far. I'll miss ya too much.  P.S, Thanks calling me a true vet. That r makes me happy B-) -------------------- The Truth Is – Everyone is going to hurt you. You just have to decide who’s worth the pain.  Ex-Moderator Ex-DG Leader Ex-Council | ||||
I'm out.