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Posted: August 14, 2008 10:16 pm  | |||||||||
      IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282    | OK, so, Nirvanas Guy was given Emeritus when he quit RS. It was then taken away from him after a week or so because "he needs higher guardian to get it". So can I ask why Jadi Simondz is Emeritus when he wasn't Higher Guardian? Not that I'm bothered that he can see stuff he shouldn't be able to. It's the fact that why is he different? I spoke to Abs about Nirvanas getting Emeritus back because Jadi was emeritus but he didn't really care. That's nice and fair Abs. Rant over. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 10:48 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Kiwi011 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3052 Member No.: 40 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | cuz jadi is having irl problems..... --------------------  | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 10:57 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | Jayson has been around for ages. Like 8 months activity and no promo or anything. George Edit: Be Nice Nawb  --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:00 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 |
Many members have been around for a while with no promotion. The fact is, that rules are rules and can't be bent for certain people. And that was a bit hostile it sounded like when the thread didn't provoke anything, to my sight atleast. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:02 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
I dun care  -------------------- "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~ | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:14 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Mickey jadi is gonna be back in under a week now to regain his full membership guardian rank. So really it was only a temporary solution so he could see stuff in his temporary absence. --------------------    | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:24 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 |
Someone applied for raid leader so I heard  Anyway, I agree with you that emeritus shouldn't be given to any below higher guardian rank. --------------------   | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:28 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 |
As far as I'm aware, being Emeritus isn't a rule, it's a privelege. I'm pretty sure that in special circumstances the requirements for Emeritus can be changed slightly for certain people. For example, if someone has been in the clan for like 8 months, and has unfortunately been looked over for all promotions, and that member is forced away from perfect activity due to having rl issues, then surely this is a special circumstance and warrants emeritus? Nvm... Not an example  I was referring to Jadi.Another possible reasoning for this could/would be that Jadi was given Guardian -> Emeritus because when this special circumstance arose where he could not be perfectly active, Abs decided that it would probably be deserving for Jadi to have Higher by that point anyway, and therefore say that he is Eligible for Emeritus also. ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:29 pm | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
Yes hello that would be me  -------------------- "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~ | ||||||||
Posted: August 14, 2008 11:36 pm | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | I was actually the one who gave Jadi emeritus.... Yes he was 'only' a guardian at the time, however he had actively contributed to WG and realistically would have received higher guardian soon if IRL problems hadn't forced him into inactivity. I stand by my decision to grant him an exception to give him emeritus because even while 'inactive' Jadi has actively contributed to WG. When he returns to activity he will get higher too. I dont see the point of this thread? though the general rule is 'must be higher+" to gain emeritus I use my judgement when deciding whether to award it. --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||||||
Posted: August 15, 2008 12:16 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 |
Nirvanas was inactive due to IRL. He had been in the clan for a while and was active at events. And I was pretty sure Jadi wasn't here for 2-3 months after I rejoined? -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: August 15, 2008 01:10 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Spicy63 Group: Emeritus Posts: 785 Member No.: 50 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | The special curcumstances bit makes sence. And yes, Emeritus is a privelege. But there are basic guidelines to how it should be given out, I dont remember them but I think 6+ Months in WG was one of them. Maybe just a quick note on the persons Goodbye/Away post for giving Emeritus in special circumstances could fix the potential future problems. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: August 15, 2008 06:05 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | wow, nice to see people still talk about me ok: well, i couldnt stop my mum going into hopital and forcing me off the internet, so i asked for emeritus, because even though i couldnt play rs, i still wanted to see forums and post, make sure everything is going good. and evil saw that and granted me emeritus. I dont see why that is bad. Now i dont know that situation here with Nirvanas, but mum going into hospital and being forced to stay at a relatives without internet is different to say having to study for exams. Even if he does have an issue like i do with my mum, like a few people said, i have been in this clan awhile, 4 months this time, and at least 1 year gathered up in my previous 2 times in wg, so its not like im some random new guy. oh and cool that i getting promotion (H) --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||||||
Posted: August 15, 2008 09:20 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: ``Jordan Group: Ex-Member Posts: 253 Member No.: 56 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | The only reason I will support this decision is because Jadi was bound for a promotion anyways. BUT, I hope no more rules are stretched in favour of popular members. I remember my quest to recieve emeritus when I was below the rank requirement but had been in the clan for 1+ year at the time. After a massive thread, with the whole clan contributing their share of the story, I was unfortunately disappointed in the result that I would no be given emeritus. I then stayed RS active, worked hard, and go my rank, and here I am now  --------------------   ~~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~``Jordan on IRC`~~`+`~~+~~`+`~~~ ~~~~~~~~~First joined WG October 31st, 2005~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ex-Raid Leader~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 12:58 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Nirvanas Group: Ex-Member Posts: 334 Member No.: 240 Joined: February 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 |
I'm really not bothered by all this. The only thing I'm posting about is, you specifically were the one that gave this guy emeritus, you obviously know him well and see it as necessary. But you were the one that specifically stripped me of my rank, I don't know you, I was given emeritus by people that do. I'd hate to be a catalyst to dispute but you haven't got a leg to stand on here. What you're doing is completely unjust. I'm completely aware that emeritus is a privilege that does vary with circumstance, but the current circumstance is exactly the same to mine. I'm going to have to accuse you of bias, perhaps favoritism is part of deciding who should be emeritus or not, but you seem to be ordering by decree. I don't mean to offend, I'm calling it as I see it. -------------------- Safe as fuck mate, safe as fuck | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 01:28 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | Have you been in WG for as long as jadi? Were you on the list to be promoted to Higher Guardian at the time?
Since the answer for those two questions is no, I disagree that your circumstances are exactly the same. -------------------- Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 01:32 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 |
To the have you been in WG as long, yes, he was in WG longer. Jadi may have been in WG before, but so have I, and that in no way affected my chance of a promotion. And I was told by several people when I counted my time in WG before towards my total time in WG that it restarts when you leave and re-join. -------------------- | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 01:36 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Nirvanas Group: Ex-Member Posts: 334 Member No.: 240 Joined: February 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 |
You undermine someone elses judgement when revoking it though. -------------------- Safe as fuck mate, safe as fuck | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 01:45 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 |
I actually just looked over the thread where I was asking about it and it wasn't me that removed it lol! I was however the one that started the thread. But I quote what I said regarding giving emeritus to Normal Guardians:
Yes you may say 'but you did it for jadi', but as I have said jadi was on the list for promotion to higher guardian so I felt that there was good reason to give him emeritus. -------------------- Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 01:51 am | |||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Nirvanas Group: Ex-Member Posts: 334 Member No.: 240 Joined: February 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | That's fair enough mate. I wasn't aware there was a thread discussing the matter. Anyway, I'm glad that's cleared up, sorry mate. -------------------- Safe as fuck mate, safe as fuck | ||||||||
Posted: August 18, 2008 04:49 am | |||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Ret[Keith] Group: Emeritus Posts: 2049 Member No.: 86 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 82 | so, can I has signature edit capability? -------------------- Best Firemaker in WG no lie   <--- rofl1st joined WG: October 18th, 2005. Ex-WG mod, OPH winner ^My original idea (U GOIN DOWN TWIZ)^ 189th person to get "100" firemaking Hash Unit, Tun Unit, C-Unit    | ||||||||
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