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Posted: August 16, 2008 06:25 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() | The Wilderness Guardians. That name used to mean something, used to be a banner to rally behind, for anyone. Now it's just another meaningless 3 words like any other clan name. To the council: If you're not gonna try and be the Wilderness Guardians any more, which at the moment seems about right. Change the name. This clan ceased being the Wilderness Guardians a long time ago. If times are changing, which you say they are, and the clan is changing, the clan name needs changing also. Old School is WG. WG is Old School. The new school is not WG, hell there isn't even a wilderness to guard any more. It's like the Bank of Scotland deciding to sell hot dogs instead, but still being called the Bank of Scotland. Change the name. Owen. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 06:45 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Changing the name is a little more work than it sounds. You have to go redo everything like the website, forums, banners, etc. Even though there is no wilderness, it's the fact that we stand for what is right. You can't say just because old school WG isn't new school WG means that we aren't WG. That doesn't make any sense, we are WG, the people and personalities are different, but it's still WG. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 08:48 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Never before have I ever been so annoyed to hear someone say that. Im tired of posts like this that claim WG will never be a successful clan anymore without the old skool. -------------------- bto ![]() Ex-WG Warlord ![]() "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 09:20 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 ![]() ![]() ![]() | This is just excessive. Why should we change the name? It may be a new WG, but it is still WG. The members that we have now are the members that make the clan that I know and love. Basically you are saying you no longer want your former clan to do well, you have no respect for us, you no longer want to be assosciated to the disgrace of a clan we have made? You just want your memories of WG to slowly slide away into nothing. We are WG, the new WG is, obviously, WG. It has changed, everything changes. You obviously want nothing to do with us, so why stay? I personally don't want you here if you are just going to put us down with posts like this. I feel pretty insulted we should not be allowed the title of WG because you think we do not live up to your standards. Yeh.. thanks. -------------------- ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 09:53 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Another one of these boring posts. I'm actually sick of all this stuff. Live with it. I'm actually beginning to dislike all the old school members now. You continually rant about changes and stuff. Please do realize that the current members don't really care. We don't need your suggestions. We're coming along as a clan without the old school. Just cause it isn't the same as you had it. Remember, there is no wildy. So things had to change. -------------------- ![]() "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~ ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 10:07 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I've never been so close to hurling abuse at someone in my life. Bassim, grow a pair. -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 10:07 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Tttkaab|Brandon Group: Ex-Member Posts: 622 Member No.: 123 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 53 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Psh and people say the Old School don't look down on the New School. I don't really care either way to be honest I was part of both of it but your attitude really pisses me off. Who do you think you are really. You're just another ex-member now, there's new leadership and it was your decision to leave. Brandon -------------------- Ex-Wilderness Leader of WG. I'll always be here for the people that need me. RS Accounts: Sadcon1, Tttkaab & T Dwag | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 10:12 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for proving my point. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 10:55 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 ![]() ![]() ![]() | So you mean that the past 10 months or so of my life have been wasted? Thanks a lot. ^ That would be true if I actually believed what you said. But I don't. GF. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 11:07 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 ![]() ![]() ![]() | ... I don't see the need to say anymore than stop complaining- the staff are doing what they think needs doing.. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 16, 2008 11:08 pm ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hey! Not all old schoolers think that way! I have been in WG way longer than almost everyone who comes here to tout their old school credentials (Joined late January 2005, and have not left since) and if you look at my posts I am almost always at odds with what most of the old schoolers are saying. There are others too, like Tnuac and Mango, who are very old school but yet don't buy into the old school vs. new school rhetoric. I think the problem is that most of the old schoolers have moved on, and who you are left with are those who for some reason have some kind of personality disorder where they need to share their input on everything that happens in the clan even when they are not in it and claim to not care about it. Bassism, this is a rediculous proposal that you know will never happen, and I can't see why you would have proposed it unless it was to flatter your own ego and take a free shot at WG. You left WG on your own free will, now please just move on. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 12:13 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Finally someone has put it in a clear way which i was unable to do so. I totally agree with what you just pointed out Karl. -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 01:12 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
First of all, it was a suggestion, not a dig. There is no Wilderness left to guard. I'm not saying WG can't be succesful without the "Old School", I'm just saying it needs to take a look at itself and get it's priorities right. Mugger - I'm more inclined to throw abuse at you, learn to read, my name is Bassism, and I have a bigger pair than you for standing up and saying what I think knowing I'd get this sort of reaction. Brandon - Who said anything about looking down on the new school? Winddancir - What the hell does that post have to do with anything at all? George - What staff? Abs? Who's never here? Or Rob and Dale, who when given opinions reply with "If I wanted your opinion I would ask for it" then make decisions that aren't needed? Karl - Who said I don't care about this clan? How about you get off your pretentious self-righteous pedestal for once and open your eyes, if you read my goodbye you'd realise how much I DO care about this clan. Tell me, when was the last time WG guarded anything? AntiRPKing events? Rune miner protection? Wilderness Guardians do not Guard the Wilderness anymore. The title is counter intuitive. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 01:15 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Aye, Reece, yet another prime example of a very old school member who tries to resolve the apparent old school vs. new school conflict. I enjoy your posts Reece, there is some good common sense in them even when you are hung over. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 01:56 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | You guys make me want to hurl. Karl, please don't insult Owen's intelligence or mine for that matter. Yes, you've been here for 3 years but what have you ever done for the clan? Not a damn thing but sit there in your computer chair eating Cheetos, drinking a 2 liter of Mountain Dew Baja, and drooling/farting on yourself while people like Owen, Gene, myself, Tmal, Jenny, Evildead, Rai, and countless others have fought to give you all what you wanted...a clan. I'm sorry but I used to think you were pretty smart until I actually started reading your posts. Alot of people don't realize that you're flame baiting because you're using words they don't understand or haven't heard before in their lives. I see right through them and I've stayed silent for a while now...but enough is enough. I've said this ever since Jagex changed the game. If there's no wilderness, how can there be wilderness guardians? Changing the name wouldn't be that hard of a thing to do if you really think about it. Why keep the name if you're sick and tired of what it stands for? I guess that's my problem. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:04 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Bassism, I apologize for not reading your goodbye post, but to me actions speak louder than words anyways. Most people tend to not abandon the things they care about. I find that when most ex-members say they care about WG, they actually do not care about WG as a clan as it is now, but rather they care about the legacy of WG. Even in your goodbye post you said you think WG should just shut down, which to me is a funny way of showing how much you care. So let me get this straight...you care about WG to the extent that you want to be able to proudly say you were once WG and not have that title be tarnished by what WG is currently today? And you call me pretentious? As an ex-member what makes you think you have the right to insist, for your own selfish reasons, that WG change its name? Please do not tell me you care about the clan as it is now. A clan is not a name, but rather the members make the clan. If you are making a proposal that the members of the clan unanimously oppose, that should be a good indication to everyone that you do not infact care about the clan. Rather, you care about the name and legacy of WG. You do not want the good name of WG to be associated with something you currently do not care about, which is why you want the name changed. Please stop the ruse, we all know you want the name changed for reasons other than accuracy. -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:07 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Using a name is a part of yourself. Every one has a name. To change it, to get rid of it, is to get rid of that part of yourself. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:09 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I said suggestion. I didn't abandon WG, I simply no longer fit in in what it has changed into. If I make a proposal that the members of the clan unanimously oppose, it does not show that I do not care about the clan. It shows that I was wrong. I have no problem in being proven wrong. However the way I have been recieved has been far from heart warming. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:10 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Correct. The Wilderness Guardians are no longer Guarding the Wilderness. Again, thankyou for proving my point. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:13 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wow is all i've got to say, and what would those names stand for if it weren't for the members who stood beside them loyally? The only reason those names stand out to you and many others is because they were given the oppurtunity by all the fan boys/girls during council elections. I'm not saying that they weren't great, because i know they all are and i hold great respect for them, but if it weren't for the way council were chosen, some of those names may have been just the average member helping out the clan as much as they could with the power they had, which is practically nothing but words. -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:22 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Most of your post made sense Flame except...there were those mentioned that never went through any fan based election. ![]() -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:28 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 ![]() ![]() ![]() | That is true, especially in your case since i hazely remember you gaining council by eugene in early WG years, or was that sum who got it? or both, i forget ![]() But there are cases where council jobs could have been done more efficiently if the election process wasn't such a screw up. EDIT: Take note i'm saying this from experience from an early to mid generation due to the fact i missed most of the generation with the council members you mentioned previously from inactivity. -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:30 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 ![]() ![]() ![]() | I could not agree with you more there bro. The election process is nothing more than a popularity contest. It has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with who would be the best person for the position...and that is a shame, really. Oh, and the reason it's such a haze is because you insist on looking through the bottom of a bottle. ![]() -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:33 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Karlfischer Group: Ex-Member Posts: 664 Member No.: 124 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Err...Rick, you are the master of flame baiting, so please don't think me stupid enough to actually indulge you with a response. I do pay you homage though, that was a pretty good bait ![]() Bassism, Its not exactly what you said, but how you said it. You associated WG with solely being old school and to us it sounds like you are saying the current WG was not good enough to maintain the title. It is just hard for me to believe that as an ex-member that you want the name WG changed for solely the sake of accuracy. It is common place to maintain names, traditions, and customs even after their reliance has long since disappeared completely. The reason is that it creates a historical lineage: a link from the present to the past that gives the current state of things some legitimacy. In other words, we want the name WG because to abandon it would create a historical break from the WG of the past. Am I right in assuming that your motives are more along the lines of creating a historical break so you do not have to associate the name WG with the clan that you currently do not fit into? -------------------- ![]() ![]() | ||||||
Posted: August 17, 2008 02:38 am ![]() | |||||||
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IRC Nickname: Flame_Reece Group: Emeritus Posts: 626 Member No.: 133 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Jim beam's with a side of smirnoff double blacks and some random keg of beer. ![]() -------------------- - Going MIA 31/03/2011 - - Avid-Gamers Unit - | ||||||