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Posted: September 22, 2008 04:56 amTop
   
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This has bothered me for some time, especially since we have irc admins living up our butts.
Certain people have made it a habit to talk graphically about sexual behaviour.

It has gotten them in trouble in the past but now the powerabuse of kicking people who either say something wrong or try to call this person down are getting worse.
It is like our public lobby is being used for a brothel.
It offends me that type of atmosphere is allowed to continue. Since we have to set such a good public example then please council make sure its being upheld.
It gets disgusting at times, when these conversations could easily be held in private.

The verbage there is as offensive as any picture I have seen on the forums.
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 05:02 amTop
   
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Seriously if im getting told to stop posting humorous pictures so that our reputation is upheld. Then lets not half ass it, and put a stop to it all?
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 09:22 amTop
   
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Exactly why I made a topic asking for IRC rules to be published, but council have conveniently ignored it for well over a month.

Seriously, if council aren't going to look at the suggestions forum, why the hell do we have it?
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 10:05 amTop
   
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I have always been one to support the introduction of IRC rules, purely because I feel that having a point of reference for Tertiaries/council to moderate from is a good thing.

I proposed this set of rules on May 11 this year,

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[B][U][SIZE=7]IRC Chat Rules[/SIZE][/U][/B]

[B]All Wilderness Guardians rules apply in the #WG and #WG_lobby IRC rooms.[/b]
[i]If you are unsure of what these are exactly please take the time to read over them [URL=http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=837]Here[/URL][/i]

Succinctly these rules are:

~Obey The Runescape Rules

~Show Courtesy At All Times
[I]Including no begging, flaming or spamming.  Please make sure you are particularily careful to obey this rule in #WG_lobby for the sake of out public image[/I]

~Do Not Compromise The Clan's Privacy
[i]Unless it is a PUBLIC WG event do not discuss an event of any shape or form in #WG_lobby, if they cannot get access to #WG they shouldn't be attending the event anyway.  No sensitive clan information at all should be posted in the lobby.[/i]

~Follow The Chain Of Command
[i]People have Operator and Half-Operator status for a reason, if they request that they do something you are obligated to follow their request.  If there is an insufficient amount of activer OP's/H-OP's temporay ones may be appointed (based on their rank within the clan), please do not demand to be given this.[/i]

[b]Other non-clan rules must also be followed, these are:[/b]

~No scripts are to be run in either #WG_lobby or #WG.
[i]We have some people who are running approved scripts, please do not run your own unless you have prior approval from a tertiary leader or higher, as we feel our current bot's provide us with the services we require.[/i]

~No Excessive spamming for events
[i]We know you want good attendance, that's fine, but please do not spam more than 3 lines per 30 seconds about one event.  If you feel that someone may have missed your event spam's then notify them nicely via pm that an event that they may be intersted is upcomming.[/i]

~Use your Forum name as at least part of your IRC nick
[i]This is for everyone's benefit, we do need to know who you are and nicks such as these:

Dave[Mining] <-- IRL Name
a13, or c_3, or r403 <-- Not enough to identify you
s_t_1_n_k_y <-- Someone's pure.... Not your WG nick.

Please use a nick that we can easily connect to your Forum account, such as:

Evil[Busy]
Buzz
Nirvanas[/i]

~Do not pretend to be someone else.
[i]expect to be kicked or potentially banned from our chatroom if you impresonate someone esle excessively.[/i]

~English only
[i]The majority of WG can speak english, and it is hard to monitor what is being said when it is in a language you so not understand.  Please if you want to talk in your native language take it to pm.[/i]



Though these days some/most of those rules would no longer be relevant I hope this shows that there actually was some work done on the creation of IRC rules.

~Evil
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 10:15 amTop
   
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Looks good at the moment, I'll do my own fine tuning soon.

Who was the objection from when you posted these? Was it council or public? If the latter I must have missed it.

EDIT: Rules look good, there's some missing but the ones up there look fine, with a few tweaks. Once other council respond to it, i'll take it to another topic so as to keep this one specific to power abuse + sexual references. Thanks evil.
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 02:13 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Theevildead2 @ September 22, 2008 11:05 am)
I have always been one to support the introduction of IRC rules, purely because I feel that having a point of reference for Tertiaries/council to moderate from is a good thing.

I proposed this set of rules on May 11 this year,

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[B][U][SIZE=7]IRC Chat Rules[/SIZE][/U][/B]

[B]All Wilderness Guardians rules apply in the #WG and #WG_lobby IRC rooms.[/b]
[i]If you are unsure of what these are exactly please take the time to read over them [URL=http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=837]Here[/URL][/i]

Succinctly these rules are:

~Obey The Runescape Rules

~Show Courtesy At All Times
[I]Including no begging, flaming or spamming.  Please make sure you are particularily careful to obey this rule in #WG_lobby for the sake of out public image[/I]

~Do Not Compromise The Clan's Privacy
[i]Unless it is a PUBLIC WG event do not discuss an event of any shape or form in #WG_lobby, if they cannot get access to #WG they shouldn't be attending the event anyway.  No sensitive clan information at all should be posted in the lobby.[/i]

~Follow The Chain Of Command
[i]People have Operator and Half-Operator status for a reason, if they request that they do something you are obligated to follow their request.  If there is an insufficient amount of activer OP's/H-OP's temporay ones may be appointed (based on their rank within the clan), please do not demand to be given this.[/i]

[b]Other non-clan rules must also be followed, these are:[/b]

~No scripts are to be run in either #WG_lobby or #WG.
[i]We have some people who are running approved scripts, please do not run your own unless you have prior approval from a tertiary leader or higher, as we feel our current bot's provide us with the services we require.[/i]

~No Excessive spamming for events
[i]We know you want good attendance, that's fine, but please do not spam more than 3 lines per 30 seconds about one event.  If you feel that someone may have missed your event spam's then notify them nicely via pm that an event that they may be intersted is upcomming.[/i]

~Use your Forum name as at least part of your IRC nick
[i]This is for everyone's benefit, we do need to know who you are and nicks such as these:

Dave[Mining] <-- IRL Name
a13, or c_3, or r403 <-- Not enough to identify you
s_t_1_n_k_y <-- Someone's pure.... Not your WG nick.

Please use a nick that we can easily connect to your Forum account, such as:

Evil[Busy]
Buzz
Nirvanas[/i]

~Do not pretend to be someone else.
[i]expect to be kicked or potentially banned from our chatroom if you impresonate someone esle excessively.[/i]

~English only
[i]The majority of WG can speak english, and it is hard to monitor what is being said when it is in a language you so not understand.  Please if you want to talk in your native language take it to pm.[/i]



Though these days some/most of those rules would no longer be relevant I hope this shows that there actually was some work done on the creation of IRC rules.

~Evil

Not trying to offend you Evil (you know Ilu), but the part about nicknames was taken from TDM forums was it not? laugh.gif

I remember quite well xD
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 07:59 pmTop
   
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*cough*

Yes I 'might' have used the TDM rules as inspiration (as I found that you guys were normally fair, and I always enjoyed being in your IRC because the rules were well enforced).

I dont think I copy pasted anything though, because I was like 'oh noes, copyright' hash.png

But shush you..... or I take away your underbanner laugh.gif
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 08:21 pmTop
   
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I have seen this plenty of times, i have told people to stop in the lobby, the lobby is a public place. I was asked to leave when Jenny was council because of something i did and then told from now on to take it to PM as that is what it is for.

I have not only seen WG members talk dirty in the lobby but i have seen half ops not asking them to stop till it got to out of hand! and this is from those NOT in WG who are in our lobby, and then are able to get back onto IRC and continue.

I hope this is sorted, i agree with your post 100% Jenny.

QUOTE (Teamspeak Talk - Posted by Jenny)
X-rated Sex Talk:

There are many members who are offended by the constant stream in both our lobby and clan chat by the topics that are brought up there. Light heartedness is one thing, but when you have a chat with younger people there are things you dont want to discuss. You never know who might be watching and monitoring us, so please be careful.
This has been a huge problem in the past and it is a battle i have been fighting for a long time. We can have fun without it. It will take diligence on our ops parts to help curb this.


http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...?showtopic=4693

I also would like to remind all those who think talking sex talk in the lobby is 'cool' that we have Marius in our lobby who is an IRCOp and talking sex talk in the lobby will in turn give him what he needs to delete the lobby channel.
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 08:27 pmTop
   
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This shouldn't be even a problem were all adults here. We should act as such.
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 08:48 pmTop
   
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sad.gif spoke about respectable acceptance only almost just. Tsk. If behaviors as such as persist, open another room exclusive to dirty talks...let all who ye likes/love to behave as such be transferred or invited to it. At least, you have a realm that you could happily indulge. All else rooms are not acceptable.

Open a room! For all who think alike could happily co-exists without interference! And all others who think otherwise could have some justifiable appeasement. I'm sure we could come up with very exotic names for such a room? smile.gif

And...we could distinguish who revels at what best! Porn? Sex? Or not? Or only in pinches? Have a SEX ROOM to cater to your needs! Wonderful yes?!

Let's not mix them up, segregate. Definitely could identify who likes what best to what behavior is fun to your own liking - stereotype yourself! Be bold yes? Guests alike! Nice?

Oh well, if you're not mature enough to know what's respectable, that is condescendingly unfortunate. Oh uhm..."GTFO" you could say. Gratz, if you did. Besides management's management, I think each individual owe it to themselves too.

Sorry to hear Jenny, I don't visit IRC often now, but agree enough to know.



P.S. GF to those who might think this topic is uncalled. GF GF!
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 08:49 pmTop
   
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*looks at his 4 months old topic in level 3*
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 11:06 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Zlatan83 @ September 22, 2008 01:49 pm)
*looks at his 4 months old topic in level 3*

I can't see lv 3 sad.gif
 
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Posted: September 22, 2008 11:50 pmTop
   
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I personally think there way to much stuff like "WANNA SEX?" and stupid sex references in the irc and tbh there not even funny anymore
 
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Posted: September 23, 2008 12:06 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Sithofwookie @ September 22, 2008 11:50 pm)
I personally think there way to much stuff like "WANNA SEX?" and stupid sex references in the irc and tbh there not even funny anymore

The thing that upsets and disgraces people is that it's also leaked into the lobby where Marius who is an IRC Op is sat and who has the power to remove a channel if it breaks any laws. Constant sex references breaks those laws.
 
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Posted: September 23, 2008 12:52 amTop
   
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I'll tone it down. I'm probably 90% of this. G'day.
 
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Posted: September 23, 2008 12:59 amTop
   
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The powerabusing that happens is pathetic, its not just the language, its the power abusing also. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POWER TO KICK DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TODO IT EVERY 20MINS.

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Posted: September 23, 2008 01:04 amTop
   
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QUOTE (leecable @ September 23, 2008 12:59 am)
JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POWER TO KICK DOESNT MEAN YOU HAVE TODO IT EVERY 20MINS.

2 Minutes lol.
 
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Posted: September 23, 2008 01:07 amTop
   
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Actually Glenn I was not even thinking of you when I made this post. I wub u loads and you are just fun!
 
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Posted: September 23, 2008 06:34 amTop
   
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Umm ok I'll give it a rest neko2.gif
 
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Posted: September 23, 2008 11:21 amTop
   
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can you make it so when they start talking they auto get put in the SEX ROOM. lol sorta like getting sent to the corner or missing recess.

I lubs you Glenn too. I don't think your gluey hugs or loving on Dale counts.

Joel is our youngest member? Think about his age. No offense but we could have more members his age joining the lobby.
 
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