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Posted: September 28, 2008 02:04 pmTop
   
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 I need to do a study of 100 people (atm I got 75~) And the survey is:

Would you class exageration under lies. If you can give your reasoning too this would be great.

Exageration: Making something sound like 100 times better/worse than it is. AKA Bending the truth (sometimes)

Lies: Telling a false story or fact.

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Posted: September 28, 2008 02:05 pmTop
   
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 Exaggerating isn't a lie. It's just a, "technique of speech" if you will, to get a point across. That's how I use it, at least. I'll never say "a lot" or "many" I'll say "like a billion" or something like that.

Am I lying? No.

Am I exaggerating? Yes.

DIFFERENCE.
 
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Posted: September 28, 2008 02:06 pmTop
   
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 Yes. Lying is considered not telling the truth. Exaggerating is not telling the truth.
 
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Posted: September 28, 2008 02:06 pmTop
   
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Posted: September 28, 2008 02:08 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Geoff_Bland @ September 28, 2008 09:06 am)
Yes. Lying is considered not telling the truth. Exaggerating is not telling the truth.

Thats what 50+ other people have said

Ty for your input
 
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 If you exaggerate it in such a way that you are actually bending your words into something else, it's a lie.

If you are just like OMG THAT THING WAS SO HUGE, but really you were just surprised to see something and it ended up being rather small, then you're just stupid. But I guess it's still a lie lol.
 
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 I'm with Vince on this one.
 
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 EDIT: If you use "like" or "as" such as in Vince's example, it isn't lying, it's just a technique known as a simile or a metaphor.

OMG I ACTUALLY USED SOMETHING I LERNED IN ENGLISH CLASS?!?!?!
 
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 Exaggerations can be exaggerations or lies, it depends on the context they're in.
 
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 It's a lie depending on whether I want it to be or not.
Sometimes I say it is and sometimes I say it isn't, because it helps me manipulate people.
 
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 I suppose it would be determined on the circumstances. In general I would say that an exaggeration is not a lie.

When you exaggerate you are not telling the complete truth.
When you lie you are not telling the truth.
 
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Posted: September 28, 2008 04:21 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ September 28, 2008 11:15 am)
I suppose it would be determined on the circumstances. In general I would say that an exaggeration is not a lie.

When you exaggerate you are not telling the complete truth.
When you lie you are not telling the truth.

So if you include part of the truth you can't be telling a lie? omghash.gif.png
 
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Posted: September 28, 2008 07:22 pmTop
   
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 Well, it varies. Almost all of use exagerations all the time. Some of many examples:

"Its freezing in here" - no it isn't, its slightly chilly
"Its boiling out there" - you'd be dead
"There were millions of people there" - no, there were 256
"He took ages" - no, he took 15 minutes. He didn't take the whole of the stone age.

I could go on forever, there are so many times we use exagerations. Usually its just to make it sound more interesting, its not necessarily lying, because people know you're deliberately exagerating.

But in some cases, exageration can be the same thing as lying. Like uhh someone asking 'how high did you jump?' if you say 1m 90 when you actually jumped 1m 60, you're lying anyway. So really lying and exagerating can be the same thing.

Its annoying when people do exagerate things, to the point its a lie. If people take their word for it, then it discredits those who truthfuly did it. Then you start wondering whether exagerating is the norm, and there is a normal level over which you exagerate.
 
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QUOTE (Eregion2 @ September 28, 2008 08:21 am)
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ September 28, 2008 11:15 am)
I suppose it would be determined on the circumstances. In general I would say that an exaggeration is not a lie.

When you exaggerate you are not telling the complete truth.
When you lie you are not telling the truth.

So if you include part of the truth you can't be telling a lie? omghash.gif.png

The best lies start with a grain of truth.
 
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QUOTE (Geoff_Bland @ September 28, 2008 02:06 pm)
Yes. Lying is considered not telling the truth. Exaggerating is not telling the truth.

+1. If any part of your statement is false, it is a lie, is it not?
 
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Posted: September 29, 2008 11:51 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Tnuac @ September 28, 2008 07:22 pm)
Well, it varies. Almost all of use exagerations all the time. Some of many examples:

"Its freezing in here" - no it isn't, its slightly chilly
"Its boiling out there" - you'd be dead
"There were millions of people there" - no, there were 256
"He took ages" - no, he took 15 minutes. He didn't take the whole of the stone age.

I could go on forever, there are so many times we use exagerations. Usually its just to make it sound more interesting, its not necessarily lying, because people know you're deliberately exagerating.

But in some cases, exageration can be the same thing as lying. Like uhh someone asking 'how high did you jump?' if you say 1m 90 when you actually jumped 1m 60, you're lying anyway. So really lying and exagerating can be the same thing.

Its annoying when people do exagerate things, to the point its a lie. If people take their word for it, then it discredits those who truthfuly did it. Then you start wondering whether exagerating is the norm, and there is a normal level over which you exagerate.

Exactly what I had in mind. In some situations, an exageration is 100% a lie; while in other situations (like the daily phrases we often use in Mike's example) it simply is not.
 
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 Theoretically speaking, everything is a lie. All truth begins in lies. Truth is a lie until it's proven truthful with a fact. So, exaggerations are lies. If I said I ate a ton of food, it's a lie, unless you prove that I in fact did eat a ton of food. However, it's physically impossible, and therefore you've proved it false.

I do also agree with vince in the fact that it is a speech tool.
 
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Posted: September 29, 2008 10:49 pmTop
   
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 Well there is the "truth", then exaggeration, then "over" exaggeration.

I have always believed that women especially have the right to over exaggerate to make a point, because most of the time men never listen anyway.
 
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QUOTE (Dorcha3377 @ September 29, 2008 05:49 pm)
Well there is the "truth", then exaggeration, then "over" exaggeration.

I have always believed that women especially have the right to over exaggerate to make a point, because most of the time men never listen anyway.

Ya - All men are pigs.
 
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Posted: September 30, 2008 12:23 amTop
   
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 Personally I've gotten so good at exaggerations and sarcasm IRL that I can manipulate words to make people believe whatever I want them to believe. I have total control over my workplace IRL right now because of it. smile.gif
 
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