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Posted: September 28, 2008 08:56 pm  | |||||||||||
     IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499    | mods bleep out what you wish... Rant Section: During our pkri with FT, I cannot FUCKING BELIEVE some people. Some didn't EVEN BOTHER COMING, some people LEFT EARLY (for unexcusable reasons, like hopping worlds to do whatever), and some went off and did THEIR OWN THING. I'm am EXTREMELY disapointed. You guys just disgraced WG and everything it stands for. Why did you join this clan in the first place? That's bullshit. SOME OF YOU OWE OUR RAIDLEADERS AN APOLOGY. Dale was telling people not to snipe, rob was telling everyone to go get range gear, etc. and you guys were rubbing it in their faces. The whole time everyone was lost.. like you've never warred before. Compliment: Good job Raid leaders, i'm serious. It was frustrating hearing your anger because no one was listening. You deserve better from the members. --------------------   | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 08:59 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 |
Indeed. --------------------  LOLPNS  Perm banned. | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:00 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Grh I'm so dissapointed to see that this happened, especially after our massive successes at the Aussie War Carnage vs TM  SO once again we see that people are not listening to the raid leaders. Discipline needs to be enforced. If someone doesnt listen they are asked to leave, if they refuse they get a warn, simple. Our raid leaders do so much for us, don't give them a hard time. --------------------    | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:01 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mickey Group: Emeritus Posts: 5305 Member No.: 48 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 282 | Didn't snipe, I attacked like 2 people. I didn't range because I didn't have the gear. But yeh, people that couldn't even be botherd showing up piss me off. Ok I've done it in the past but when it's really import, if I'm on, I'll come. --------------------    | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:02 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 | Some people could of also returned... I wasnt there at beginning as i just got home...but we were fighting with 15 people to there 30 -------------------- LOLPNS Perm banned. | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:05 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 | Raid Leaders, I'm sorry my girlfriend called me at the beginning of the war and interrupted me. I was unable to use teamspeak during it. --------------------  | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:06 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 |
No, you have an excuse. There were people who were ON RUNESCAPE who didn't even bother showing. -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:07 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 | Oh, I thought that I was in trouble too.  -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:08 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 | Honestly, I think that was purely pathetic. Some people just didn't bother returning. I returned seriously the first few times, but after it looked hopeless, I just stopped getting food. It wasn't worth it. =\ I'm sorry that you had to go through this, Raid Leaders. --------------------   | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:16 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Yup. -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:18 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Seriously you should have all the people who left buy everyone else back the swordies we lost while fighting without you. -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:21 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | LOL PKRI's aren't mandatory dude. If people were on and chose to do something different, then so be it. Maybe the people online aren't warlike, maybe they wanted to get that level, maybe they just didn't feel like it. All in all, you can't expect people to pay you back for lost items. Don't want to lose items, either don't go or don't die.  -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:24 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 |
1. They should WANT to go. Why leave your clan dieing on the battlefield when they could make that much of a difference? 2. OK, but if they were stay everyone would be piled less resulting in less food eaten. If you get my point. -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:29 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Type Group: Guest Posts: 223 Member No.: 686 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 16 | If anyone wants to take a dig at me.. Not only did I hybrid with ALL types of combat (mage melee range) I returned 8 times, and used over 230 pizzas (124k RS GP) and used over 100 binds. --------------------  | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:30 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 |
As I said, not everyone is like you Randy. I could care less about wars/pkris. They're pointless and boring. It was my clan's choice to bite off more than it could chew by accepting this pkri. When they saw how many would attend, they should have made it capped, or just pull out altogether. Besides, was this a RSC post PKRI? If not, then who cares if you won or lost? At least you still got some practice returning and attacking. Let's also bring up the fact that there was no coordination there whatsoever, according to those who were there. Maybe the clan needs more training in that aspect. Oh, and swordies is considered an item.  -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:30 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 | I agree. If your on Runescape while your clan is fighting, win or lose, you should get out there and represent your clan. Even the extra person can help in so many ways....extra hit for ko, extra damage, so many ways. But people lose hope. Isnt it better to lose a war with 15 people or 30, when atleast you can say you put up a decent fight... -------------------- LOLPNS Perm banned. | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:30 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | I am sorry I was on irc but not in game. I was grilling and by the time I ate and came back it was all over. --------------------   | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:38 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 |
Clans are made by warring. That's what drives them. Why do you think the top clans are top clans? The more people that come, the better we get, the more ranks we gain. If you join a clan you should want to make it better, even if that means warring, which may not be your favorite thing to do. It was RSC post. Which is a very big deal for recruitment. -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 09:40 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I left my skilling to come and I stayed most of the time til close to the end and I got a phone call and logged out. Randy I have plenty of swordies with my lvl fishing, if you ever need help with food just pm me on the forum. I don't ever mind helping out when I can.  Sorry Raid leaders, I wasn't so good at that dd thing. But I only found out what that was from Queen's hello post. I am not to good at war things yet. If you think I should just stay away that be okay with me. I'm still learning and have a long way to go yet.  --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 10:01 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 |
The top clans are powerful. They train, they take smart battles, they have discipline, they have people who want to war. Of the above things, the only one WG has is the last one. We don't train half as much as them, we take any battle that comes our way, and we don't have a shred of discipline. THAT is what makes them top clans. So now you're saying that WG should only be concentrating on making some stupid "top list"? Who cares what rank we are? What do the rankings mean? They're nothing but people's opinion and are power based only. It's meaningless imho. -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 10:03 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 | Rick has a point...Wg to us is a community a family, but then we all want to win wars...so you have a dilemma really -------------------- LOLPNS Perm banned. | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 10:30 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 |
I don't remember if you were in Wg when I was, around 2006, when we were  1 in p2p. We were the most amazing clan out there, and people would join every day. Now, what is a community? A community depends on the members. The more members we get, the more personalities we get, increasing the overall community. Like when we were a top clan, people would join to pk/war, and stay BECAUSE of the community.In summary, the warring increases, the recruitment increases, the community increses. -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 11:02 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | What pisses ME off is why everyone suddenly drops dead in their tracks and tries to placate someone throwing a tantrum, however "justified" it might be. Implying that everyone online should suddenly drop what they're doing for the day and show up to a PKRI that was scheduled less than THREE HOURS IN ADVANCE seems just a little misplaced to me. If you had problems with those who DECIDED TO ATTEND AN OPTIONAL EVENT then sure, rant. But everyone who just let themselves get bullied into apologizing for doing absolutely nothing wrong in order to to try and make Randy happy should be ashamed of themselves. Anyway, I'm not going to explain why I wasn't there, because it's none of your business. We were top 2006 because we had a community that LOVED to war. But that community is burnt out and moved on, mostly retired, involved with other clans, or completely other games. There aren't many "warriors" left in WG. It'd be cool to have that rank back, to be known and respected, but personally after Jagex screwed us over I'm in the "fuck it" category. Right now all those top clans are proving is how much time they've wasted pretending to smack each other with pixels, for hours, and hours, and hours, and days, and months, and years. When someone realizes there's more fun ways to war than two clans gearing up and piling each other for an hour I'll be interested; I remember 2005-06 when we actually had STRATEGIES that got people interested and made the whole experience INTERESTING. Fuck standing around for half an hour for mass. Fuck piling each other like cavemen learned to do a billion years ago. FUCK THE MORONIC PASTIME THAT'S A RUNESCAPE WAR/PKRI!
Not sure what else you expected from an event announced two hours before it was time to mass. --------------------  | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 11:07 pm | |||||||||||
 IRC Nickname: Owennnn Group: Emeritus Posts: 1447 Member No.: 37 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 55 | I'd already spent about 2 hours today either preparing or being in a war, I don't want most of my RS time spent massing, gearing up or fighting in a war. A war and a PKRI in one day? within 9 hours of each other, is a bit excessive imo. If I had attended I would've spent a total of 90 minutes fighting/returning (Including the war earlier), all the time massing, all the time preparing, and then all the time trying to replace all the food I used, which would have left me with little to no time actually for myself. When you don't have as much time on RS as others, you shouldn't be made to feel bad because you didn't want to devote every minute of your playing time to your clan. Which is why I only really attend one, maybe 2 events a week. And even then, it's events that I can enjoy. A PKRI is not enjoyable for me. Wars are ok, you fight, you die, it ends. For me, PKRIs are boring, drawn out, repetitive wars. The truth is, I could've attended the PKRI, I wasn't doing anything important irl, I was playing Halo, but I knew I wouldn't enjoy it, I certainly didn't want to spend an entire hour doing it. If I'd known I could attend, fight maybe a few times, then stop before the hour ended, but this post made me realise I can't do that. Clans weren't invented just to fight, they were invented to enhance the enjoyment of a game. Which for some, maybe most people, may be fighting, but for others, it isn't. You want to be in the #1 warring clan? Go join DI or whoever it is. I am honestly not that fussed about being #1, I actually joined for the community and skilling, not warring. Despite this I am still attending wars, from time to time. Let the people who want to war, war. Let those who don't want to, do what they want to do. After all, it's a game, it's not like it's a job being a Wilderness Guardian, since when did playing a game involve spending hours doing something you don't want to do, for no physical reward? -------------------- | ||||||||||
Posted: September 28, 2008 11:23 pm | |||||||||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Eregion, you're missing the point. If you had something to do irl that stopped you from playing runescape then sure, you ARE excused. But if you are playing and can't stop doing whatever it is that you're doing (and the examples were training/skilling which can be picked up later), than you should be in trouble. You joined a clan so why not help it? Bassism, I agree that if you won't have fun don't come. But the fact that someone JOINED a clan (which automatically includes warring, they sign this on their application), they agree to attend. If you don't want to war, don't join, it's simple. Go join DI? That makes no sense, why would I give up helping WG get better to go join the best? I'm here to make us stronger, and pretty much you're telling me I should stop, correct? -------------------- | ||||||||||
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