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Posted: September 30, 2008 12:34 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305    | Just want to hear ideas on time based attendance and see if it has been tried before. Some one shows up for 5 or 10 minutes of an event should they get attendance when the event lasts 30 minutes. Sometimes you need that exta person to make the 8 needed for attendance. My last clan had very strict rules about attendance. I don't feel a need to change to some strict unflexible rules, but maybe a more general guideline. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 12:37 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: chappell44 Group: Clan Friend Posts: 500 Member No.: 148 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | yes this is very wise because sometimes people leave like 10 minutes into an event saying i gtg but do u actually know if there just gettin the free attendance or actually going a time based will be wise its there own fault if they have to go but if u pull 8 people and 1 leaves i strongly recomend the others gettin attendance and that 1 person not. -------------------- msn id = [email protected] | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 12:58 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | Rachel you are right, If someone is 5 - 10 minutes late to an event and the event lasts 30 mins they should not get attendance. It is exactly the same with lectures at University or College, if your late you are punished or you are not allowed to attend. This can be handled by if someone is late and wishes to join in then they should be punished with not being able to attend and if they go ahead and do it anyway they are warned. People need to learn that even though clans are families they run on a certain time limit for events, say ToG for example, We are to9ld to mass 5 - 10mins before the event but people think it is fine to not and just mass 5 minutes late, this makes those who wait for you and those around in the banks think that this clan is not good enough. For example, we mass for ToG, people decide to turn up late and people get angry at the others, people then in the bank see this and say "Hmm thats a clan i will not join". Everyones actions whether it is time management affects the clan. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer   | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 01:20 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | hmmm so late is an issue? I was thinking of total attending time too. Not sure about it yet myself. -------------------- Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~ | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 01:25 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
This would work well for Total event attendance too. Being late will in turn effect the total attendance i should think. I will speak to you more about this tonight and will edit my post explaining the conclusion we both come to. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 02:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | If someone's late, it's their responsibility to catch up. Don't penalize them for it. :mad: I voted no overall, since I think it's pretty important that people be able to come and go as necessary. They certainly shouldn't show up for two minutes just to get attendance and then run off, but I'm pretty sure we have something up to deal with that already. Some events though, I wouldn't mind time commitments. An example would be PKRIs; if it'll last for an hour and you decide to attend, I think it's a good idea to require a full hour of attendance for it to be counted, just as an example. --------------------  | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 02:36 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | I voted NO because sometimes you can't help but be late. If there's something going on at 5:00, I usually don't get home until a quarter to and I need time to relax, change clothes and other things before I get on the computer. However, if someone is on time and only stays for 5-10 minutes, then they shouldn't be acknowledged as having attended. People know ahead of time whether or not they have something going on. An example of this would be....if there's an event at 6:00 that lasts for a half hour, I know that I can't attend because I have to leave at 6:15. Therefore, I shouldn't get counted for having attended. -------------------- | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 03:02 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: karel Group: Emeritus Posts: 1021 Member No.: 57 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 89 | Introduce partial attendance points? -------------------- Sig? | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 03:35 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Partial attendance points? What would that do? Let's not make this more complicated.  -------------------- | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 05:58 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Cory|Melchior Group: Ex-Member Posts: 240 Member No.: 527 Joined: April 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 5 | I would say at least 50% to 70% of the event should be attended for it to count...The time starts when the even schedule says so, and the time ends when the majority leave. If some stay and continue doing whatever the event was for, then obviously thats just "extraciricular" stuff. -------------------- Kingdom of Edgeville  | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 06:05 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Type Group: Guest Posts: 223 Member No.: 686 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 16 | easy enough to say this, but sum poor guy has gotta work out where everyone is from ect.. --------------------  | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 06:14 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | When I host events. If someone stays for less than 20-30 minutes (really depends on the event), then they don't receive the attendance point. That's how I roll. If you can't be bothered to attend for a sufficient amount of time, don't come! --------------------    | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 11:20 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 | I voted no also, because why make things more complicated than they already are? How are you supposed to know how long each person has been there? I had another good reason but I forgot it writing those to sentences  --------------------  | ||
Posted: September 30, 2008 11:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | I believe common sense should be used depending on the type of the event instead of fixed times. So yeah, if someone stays like 10 mins in a farm run then has to go, I believe he should get attendance, but if he goes away to do something else, then he shouldnt get attendance. --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||
Posted: October 1, 2008 09:11 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I agree with George. But some things total time is important as well. Showing up late to me is not all that bad depending on the event. Some things are more important to be on time for than others. Percentage of time spent at the event seems important. -------------------- Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~ | ||
Posted: October 2, 2008 11:50 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | Personally, I've left quite a few Events early, like, 10-15mins - Mainly because I find it really boring, it feels more like a chore than something you do for fun and gain something from it. Example: King Black Dragon - Boring when too many people are there, the Dragon pops up and just dies before you hit it. A Good Event: The Star falling thingy (I don't know the name lol) You mine for about 20-30mins, you gain exp, you gain 50k and some other stuff in the end, it's kind of fun. ------ So basically, if you make the events interesting enough, then people shouldn't leave 10mins early unless they really have to go and say "I gtg, take me off attendance if you need to". I'm sure if needed, the Event Leaders/Whoever is hosting the event can dictate what number of minutes you need to stay to get attendance, because it's their event of course  ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||
Posted: October 3, 2008 06:05 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | I'd be more worried about people actually ATTENDING the event rather then people coming late and leaving before the event ends. --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 4, 2008 02:00 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Woolachee Group: Clan Friend Posts: 165 Member No.: 688 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 22 | I think everything is working well as it is. Its not complicated to understand, and its a useful tool for event attendance. Theres always going to be people trying to cheat the system, but really, does it matter in the long run? edit: i would rather have someone show up and leave halfway through b/c they gotta do something, than not show up at all. --------------------   | ||
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