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Posted: October 11, 2008 10:21 pm  | |||
      IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305    | Well I just want to point this out. When at war we are still suppose to be a family. I am not going into detail but if winning wars is more important than watching your mouths so you don't flame your own family it is a sad day for the community of WG. This lil story will explain how I feel. Go to your bathroom and squeeze a whole tube of toothpaste out on the counter. Now put it back in the tube and don't leave any out. Well you can't do it. Same goes for your crappy attitude towards each other. You can spit out insults, flames, and in general crap stuff but you can't take it back. No matter how much you try or how many time you say your sorry the crap is all out there. I think as a member of the clan I would of had at least one person speak up for me and they didn't. That makes it worse than anything that could of ever been said to me. Don't flame me I just want you all to know how I felt. If you want to pm me and chat that is fine but this is not something to debate. It is just a heart felt post. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 | I don't get why you're offended. I didn't hear any flames. I just heard "Rachel, don't return." You're low leveled combat. You KNOW you're low leveled combat. You got killed like 10 times over. They were only going to kill you more. --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:27 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | We all know my combat sucks and I don't mind leaving any war but using *fuck* on me was in my opinion a flame. Maybe people speak to you like that but I don't find it appropiate -------------------- Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~ | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:30 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 | Have you never been agitated before? Actually, I know you have. Because I can tell you are now. Some take Warring more seriously than others. And those people were annoyed that we were losing. When people get annoyed, they swear. It's human nature. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:32 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | Even if someone were to stick up for you, it would of made no difference since we were in the middle of a war and the teamspeak chan was muted. If something was taken wrong im sure it wasn't meant to be said as mean as you think it did. Due to the low turnout when we had 3x more signed up to go, then who actually showed up. The tension was abit high and people might of been snappy due to that. --------------------  The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011        | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:33 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Rach if you can get on the IRC I want to talk to you in private. --------------------  | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:37 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 | To be fair, During a warring situation, things are VERY stressed for leaders. Swear words are a natural way of venting frustration. People will always get hurt during a war situation. Feelings will be exaggurated by Leaders. The leader would be thinking 'Damn, That person is being frequently KOed... He/She needs to leave the trip or this is going to be even harder than it needs to be' but what comes out, during an agitated situation is 'Fucks sake ____ leave the war!' It's what happens. I do apologise afterwards if I ever do this, and I always do my best to keep my cool, but sometimes things happen during wars that need to be apologised for and forgotten afterwards. -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 10:39 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pyro Blade26 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 782 Member No.: 84 Joined: January 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | no one could stick up for you because only like 5 people had voice in ts --------------------     | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 11:08 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 | Come on everyone, Rachel know's she is a low combat she knew the risks of the war but what did she do? She went... She got her stuff together and massed. Once she died she banked and came back then what? She was told to leave on TS not in a low tone but in a shouting tone? by none other than our leadership. Rachel has done nothing but be the most kind and caring member towards others, this got her higher guardian, but for what? No respect? Vince, she is no way agitated she is annoyed.. yes... but not emotionally troubled. At the end of the day i would be upset to if i was shouted at to leave. It would of been better for the person to ask her to leave to Pm her not to shout at her. Rachel is a skiller not a fighter and tries her damn hardest to make warring event's even when she does NOT like them. Give her some gratitude and lessen your attitude towards low levels, They were asked to return when they died, she did that and so did many others. She had the spirit to keep going yet she was insulted and forced to leave. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer   | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 11:19 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: dieyou2000 Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 711 Member No.: 1300 Joined: August 28, 2008 Total Events Attended: 158 | Same happened to me. I don't think I was shouted or cursed at, but I was told basically, "Die you keep getting koed can you just...whatever". Obviously this was meant to make me leave. First of all I know I'm low level and I don't fare well especially in f2p wars, but I was told to come and so I did and tried my hardest. I was killed 3 times in the 40mins I was there, and only once was I koed. The other two times I tanked out and kept alive for 1-2mins. In case you didn't know I'm level 101 f2p with 90 def against a whole clan of mainly 120's+ so I'd say that's damn good myself. Secondly, there is such an easy solution. Just have a combat level restriction for full outs in f2p or both or whatever. I don't really care if you tell me you don't think I should come because I would do more harm then good. I'd rather you tell me that than tell me I HAVE to come to a war, and then be told it would be better if I just left. Lordy did apologize and he said he would institute a combat restriction on run-ins or such wars from here out. Still mad and annoyed but thank you and I accept. --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 11, 2008 11:21 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Aardvark Group: Banned Posts: 759 Member No.: 322 Joined: March 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 175 | I'm sorry that happened Rachelle, I didnt even hear it, i was concentrating on finding the piles from all the bad directions etc.. it was all a mess and also with that idiot team that kept yelling w in , and alll the other crap they pulled. You are most definately part of this family and a very well respected member.  --------------------    | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 02:54 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Woolachee Group: Clan Friend Posts: 165 Member No.: 688 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 22 | Rachel, you are the reason i am in WG today (you recruited me). You are one of the nicest and loving people i have ever known, so don't forget it - if they want attendance, you give em attendance. Good job. --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 03:42 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | Like I posted in the other topic, this whole situation is pretty sad - for the clan. One second we're telling people it's bad to not attend and doesn't show commitment to the clan. We're saying that people should show up on the basis that it's a CLAN event. Not showing up is thought of bad and not thinking about the clan and only about yourselves. We're were bent over backwards to get people signed up. We were told that even if people don't like PvP or warring in general or know they're not good at it they should still come to support the clan. Yet when this is actually fulfilled those people who are yelled at are told to leave. The worst part is some people are OK with it. You go from "It's about the clan. You should show up for the clan," to "Look, you know you're low combat just don't come." Rachel, I'm very sorry this had to happen to you. Others, make up your damn minds. Do you want the CLAN there or just the people that are fit for warring? --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 03:45 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | I know it hurt your feelings and I don't blame you for being upset. Please realize it was not intended at you the person you are, but the situation. I appreciate you coming and showing up even though you don't enjoy it. It makes it hard when you are doing your best and it doesn't seem to be good enough. As has been said, no one could say anything on TS. Sometimes harsh words are spoken in haste and not really meant. --------------------   | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 04:16 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | Rachel dont take it too hard. Id feel the same way. TBH you did good no matter what anyone says to you. Lol to be honest if that was happening to me i would have left after 5 deaths. And for anyone. Everyone should be there regardless. Be there and show up. Try your hardest and dont let anyone stop you -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0  | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 08:09 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Geofff Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1238 Member No.: 608 Joined: May 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 96 | I know this may seem a bit blunt and harsh but what you gotta do is just train your combat. It's what I did and it works wonders. --------------------  | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 08:43 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Flippie||Afk Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1708 Member No.: 55 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Rachel joined WG when the skill sector was still around. she's a skiller and she didnt had the combat requirement when the sectores merged. I know she did worked very hard to reach lvl 100 - the lvl needed to join nowadays. She doesn't like warring very much. But still she's there every single war she can get to.. Her attitude towards the clan is just amazing. I hope she accepts your apologies Lordy -------------------- http://www.myspace.com/ZitherBand Support my Friends!  | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 10:18 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
People cannot be forced into training combat, i was and now look at me... I am lost for what i want to do so i am reverting back into a skiller, i joined a skiller so i will leave a skiller. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 11:08 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 | I don't think it was right to ask them to leave because they are dieing. She tried her hardest and that's all that matters. WG is family before wars right? If so it shouldn't matter how many times a person dies as long as they tried their hardest. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 11:16 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | That was wrong yeah, thank you for attending though Rachel, shows you care about the clan. BUT Everyone really needs to understand, people get REAL angry sometimes, it's too much stress, I've been in a semi-leadership rank before and I KNOW how it can change people sometimes, judge people by their good side, not their bad side, because everyone who posted here got pissed at one point. We're all human here, we all have our good and bad times. --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 05:47 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | This entire thread is nothing more than bullshit. Here's why: On one side you have Rachel, a great woman and clan member TO EVERYONE. Sure she's not a high combat level but at least she TRIES to attend the events/wars that this clan has, while others, the ones who actually have the great combat levels, can't/don't want to attend. On the other side, you have the warmongers of this clan. The die hards, the overbearing thunderous crowd of those who NEED to kill people and win wars at all costs. This is what I'm going to say. You warmongers have BEGGED us to show up to wars/pkris. Someone once said that one more person could help the clan succeed and now you're telling that person that they don't matter because they're getting killed too often??? What in blue fuck is that? Look at it this way...if Rachel wants to go and get her ass handed to her everytime she enters the battlefield, that's on her. How dare you tell her to stay away because believe it or not, she's saving YOUR ass because if she's getting killed, you're not. Some of you really need to grow up. You make me sick. -------------------- | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 07:10 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Valdremia Group: Ex-Member Posts: 289 Member No.: 64 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 9 | Understood. Rachel did the right thing to have voiced her concerns, valid and leadership/people involved did the right thing to rectify/amend the situation at a 1-1 level. That's what matters. If one is sincere about listening and the other sincere about making it, its simply enough. ATB. -------------------- "I will listen to you, especially when we disagree." - Barack Obama  | ||
Posted: October 12, 2008 11:52 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Plano|Adam Group: Emeritus Posts: 1449 Member No.: 228 Joined: February 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 107 |
definitely agreed mate. that makes alot of sense, and no offense but you shouldnt be so rowled up by this situation. --------------------  "If at first you don’t succeed, call it version 1.0" | ||
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