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Posted: October 11, 2008 10:39 pmTop
   
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I just wanted to give you a brief overview of my thoughts on the war.

Well I have mixed feelings about it.
We had low attendance and that is something we're going to rectify in the future wars.
This time round the leaders won't be punishing for lack of attendance. Instead, a better way is to find non-aggressive solutions. We'll be figuring out why the attendance was so low and we'll put things into place to prevent it in the future. The SMS service is one such measure.

Let's not get angry over the turnout. Shit happens. It's about improvement. Besides, the fight wasn't too bad with our bad turnout anyway. We did lose but we can blame a lot of that on MoD being pricks. We have put their name in our Level 2 list of clans not to fight. They may come off in a year's time or so if we are both at the same strength level. And the leadership did apologise for it, but we are not going to take the risk again.

I wholteleartedly thank those members who came and gave it their all. My public apology goes out to Dieyou2000 and Rachellove. I spoke poorly to both of you. Die I have spoken to in private. Hopefully I can speak to you too Rachel so we can work out a way for me to make it up to you.
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 10:44 pmTop
   


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I came in halfway the war.
Did my very best, binding as much as possible..
They had snipers around all the time.

I would have enjoyed the war if they didnt had these annoying people around our pile all the time.

More luck next time guys wink.gif
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 10:47 pmTop
   
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Our main issue with today's war was the messes on Teamspeak(like 5 people talking at once) and the fact that nobody returns. It's called a PKRI for a reason. Player Kill RUN-IN


Other than that, we performed well.
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 11:06 pmTop
   
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Come on everyone, Rachel know's she is a low combat she knew the risks of the war but what did she do? She went... She got her stuff together and massed. Once she died she banked and came back then what? She was told to leave on TS not in a low tone but in a shouting tone? by none other than our leadership.

Rachel has done nothing but be the most kind and caring member towards others, this got her higher guardian, but for what? No respect? Vince, she is no way agitated she is annoyed.. yes... but not emotionally troubled. At the end of the day i would be upset to if i was shouted at to leave. It would of been better for the person to ask her to leave to Pm her not to shout at her.

Rachel is a skiller not a fighter and tries her damn hardest to make warring event's even when she does NOT like them. Give her some gratitude and lessen your attitude towards low levels, They were asked to return when they died, she did that and so did many others. She had the spirit to keep going yet she was insulted and forced to leave.
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 11:08 pmTop
   
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Honestly though Simon. Even a high level would think this way:

You got KOed multiple times in a row. You're not helping the clan. Stop returning.

That's what I would have done.
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 11:10 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Pbplayer9 @ October 11, 2008 11:08 pm)
Honestly though Simon. Even a high level would think this way:

You got KOed multiple times in a row. You're not helping the clan. Stop returning.

That's what I would have done.

Maybe so but she made the effort to show up and HELP the clan, you may have your own way of telling people to go but the way it was handled was rude. She deserve's respect, something it seems doesn't want to be given to her.
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 11:11 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Yingyang06 @ October 12, 2008 12:06 am)
As her post was deleted when i was posting this is what i wrote on it:

It wasn't deleted, but rather, removed to the Rants forum.
 
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Posted: October 11, 2008 11:12 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Mugger84 @ October 11, 2008 11:11 pm)
QUOTE (Yingyang06 @ October 12, 2008 12:06 am)
As her post was deleted when i was posting this is what i wrote on it:

It wasn't deleted, but rather, removed to the Rants forum.

Well im sorry for assuming it was deleted.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 12:32 amTop
   
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I think it could have been handled better. Instead it provoked alot of negative and unhelpful emotions. In any case just handle it better next time we count on you.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 01:01 amTop
   
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If we ever lose a war or PKRI because people like Rachel show up for it, even if it's a loss by the numbers it's an overwhelming victory in any perspective that really counts.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 03:33 amTop
   
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That's ridiculous. One war we're telling people it's not OK to just leave, and they should come regardless to show support of the clan. Now when they do come, even though that person knows, as well as the rest of the clan, that warring isn't their best strength they're told to leave? What's worse is that people are alright with it? Being kicked from a PKRI where signups were made practically mandatory?

I don't know whether or not to laugh at the stupidity of it all, or to feel sad for what's going on.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 04:11 amTop
   


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When i saw their sniper pile i was eff that scrw doing main pile and tried gettin all snipers on me. We needed binds to hit without being afraid of dieing.

I personally dont care about pkri in WG. Like ill put my hardest to win but in the end if were facing someone experianced i know its not going to possible. Im not saying WG will never be good at it im just saying its not our style.

Honestly about leaving if you die alot, id personally say the same. Honestly if your dieing alot and you know warring isnt your strength just leave. Honestly if the leadership pushes you to leave then theres a problem but if you leave on your own because of such an issue like that then there should be no problem.

All you low levelers in WG you did good and no one can say you didnt. No matter what level you are you managed to keep them busy long enough for us to keep a strong pile going. Kudos to you for showing up even though warring may not be your strand. And good fight everyone.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 05:35 amTop
   
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Some of the people who replied here didn't even show up and yet they have the nerve to criticise.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 10:53 amTop
   
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look honestly i dont liek wars too much too

but i go, and look, honestly even if she does get koed, that is time mod have to spend re grouping for another pile, give her a break, she was trying her best

she didnt do anything wrong, and she was helping. and thats a fact
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 11:00 amTop
   
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I was annoyed by the turnout personally, we had over 40 sign up as 100%-70% and like 20 sign up as 50%, and we ONLY had 35 show up.

Personally I was expecting around 50 or so, but meh, it's over now I suppose.
We need more PKRI's like this, it's the ONLY way we'll improve.

P.S. I tried a technique that some people use (Mostly in top clans), which is put on full rune with druidic top, you do fail sometimes but you still get binds most of the time, Type has a guide for this in our Official Guides Forum. It REALLY helps vs snipers, I ususally get sniped to half/almost all my food everytime I return when I'm hybriding, when I did this I only got hit by snipers a total of FOUR times (As in, 4 hits) during this run in, and they never got me under 75 hp. It's GREAT vs Snipers.

I got ko'd once, I was playing on my laptop's battery which ran on low-power state, resulting in me not being able to see properly.

Four deaths, 0 kills (Had to go in one of these).
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 06:17 pmTop
   
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Well in my own defense I can say I lose no matter what I do. I went to the last war like this and left. Staff talked about how the ones that left should be handed out warn lvls. I really didn't want to be at the war but being told that is what is expected changes how you do things. I'm not going to hide out in the game to avoid warring. If you don't want me there then don't force me to feel like I'm worthless if I don't show up. Then being treated badly while there doesn't help anything.

Now I'm told that I seek pity for my level and warring skills. I don't need pity I need 99 fishing and 99 woodcutting. It don't take combat to get those. I have trained hard to get to this lvl combat and I have no reason not to be happy with myself for what I have achieved in the 18 months I played rs or for the nine months I have been in WG. I will continue to play RS as I wish. If I train combat to help the clan and this is what I get. If you flame me then shame on you. I love the clan and am willing to help in other ways.

How many of you have come to me for things or I have come to you in the game and given you my help or stuff. I don't think that some respect is much to ask in return. Attitudes about me and my returning to the war just show how little you care about me as the person behind the keyboard.

No hugs and smiles here. I am taking your attacks on me personally.
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 06:28 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ October 12, 2008 07:17 pm)
Well in my own defense I can say I lose no matter what I do. I went to the last war like this and left. Staff talked about how the ones that left should be handed out warn lvls. I really didn't want to be at the war but being told that is what is expected changes how you do things. I'm not going to hide out in the game to avoid warring. If you don't want me there then don't force me to feel like I'm worthless if I don't show up. Then being treated badly while there doesn't help anything.

Now I'm told that I seek pity for my level and warring skills. I don't need pity I need 99 fishing and 99 woodcutting. It don't take combat to get those. I have trained hard to get to this lvl combat and I have no reason not to be happy with myself for what I have achieved in the 18 months I played rs or for the nine months I have been in WG. I will continue to play RS as I wish. If I train combat to help the clan and this is what I get. If you flame me then shame on you. I love the clan and am willing to help in other ways.

How many of you have come to me for things or I have come to you in the game and given you my help or stuff. I don't think that some respect is much to ask in return. Attitudes about me and my returning to the war just show how little you care about me as the person behind the keyboard.

No hugs and smiles here. I am taking your attacks on me personally.

A possible suggestion I could give to you is take the time out of your very busy schedule to come to one of my hour long war trainings. Maybe that way you'd be able to tank at wars.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean this in an offensive way whatsoever, Rach <3 I'm just saying that a worthwhile way of ensuring that some leaders don't lose it with you during wars for dieing often, would be to become a better tank etc. Once a clan spots you as a weak one during PKRIs, you either need to step up your game, or remove yourself as a target for them to exploit =\

A war training might help you step up your game. It doesn't take that long, and it can be extremely beneficial biggrin.gif I have one upcoming if you want to come along biggrin.gif
 
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Posted: October 12, 2008 08:38 pmTop
   


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Pathetic...truly pathetic.
 
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Posted: October 14, 2008 05:15 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (rachellove9 @ October 12, 2008 01:17 pm)
Well in my own defense I can say I lose no matter what I do. I went to the last war like this and left. Staff talked about how the ones that left should be handed out warn lvls. I really didn't want to be at the war but being told that is what is expected changes how you do things. I'm not going to hide out in the game to avoid warring. If you don't want me there then don't force me to feel like I'm worthless if I don't show up. Then being treated badly while there doesn't help anything.

Now I'm told that I seek pity for my level and warring skills. I don't need pity I need 99 fishing and 99 woodcutting. It don't take combat to get those. I have trained hard to get to this lvl combat and I have no reason not to be happy with myself for what I have achieved in the 18 months I played rs or for the nine months I have been in WG. I will continue to play RS as I wish. If I train combat to help the clan and this is what I get. If you flame me then shame on you. I love the clan and am willing to help in other ways.

How many of you have come to me for things or I have come to you in the game and given you my help or stuff. I don't think that some respect is much to ask in return. Attitudes about me and my returning to the war just show how little you care about me as the person behind the keyboard.

No hugs and smiles here. I am taking your attacks on me personally.

And you deserve to. I'm ashamed of the way this clan is going. Ever since the sectors were here there has been a division in this clan of war and skills, and anyone who takes a side openly disrespects the other. How can we treat our friends like this? What happened to the WG of the last few years with the strongest community in all of RS?
 
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Posted: October 14, 2008 08:50 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Mugger84 @ October 12, 2008 10:28 am)
A war training might help you step up your game. It doesn't take that long, and it can be extremely beneficial biggrin.gif I have one upcoming if you want to come along biggrin.gif

Expect it to last longer than you think.

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My activity is lower on weekends, mostly cause I sleep in. Very rarely will I wake up before 11am, and actually be functioning before noon. So I tend to miss most wars because of that.

But on the few times I have gone, I don't bind, and I have to deal with severe lag, making me more of a liability. I've learned that trying to bind while I'm already lagging isn't a good thing. I just die faster.
 
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Posted: October 20, 2008 12:55 amTop
   
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wholteleartedly???

what the fuck?

lul sorry but i had to say that.
 
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Posted: October 31, 2008 05:54 pmTop
   
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Sad to hear this. Lets hope WG leadership can solve this problem.
 
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Posted: November 1, 2008 12:52 amTop
   
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Old topic. Unecessary to remain open.

Locked.

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