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Posted: October 13, 2008 08:24 pm  | |||||
     IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149    | Thank you to all of you who preferred to go to an unplanned PKRI rather than a planned Skilling Event. I'm so happy to know that you all can't stand skilling events.
I'm so glad I showed up for a War Training Event. Because apparently, that's what counts. As I said to some one in pm...
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Posted: October 13, 2008 08:26 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zlat Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2781 Member No.: 9 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 60 | You cant blame Joe for enjoying fighting events then skill events. I'm not a skilling freak, but I do attend ToG Events. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:32 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | It was a War Practice Event, Tabs, it got dragged on to a PKRI. Delays happen, stuff happens in life, you have to deal with it. If a programme on TV runs on more than it's supposed to, then the next programme gets delayed or cancelled. I greatly appreciate that you are making Events, but it's the same with everything, Warring & Skilling Events, you can't force or blame members for not going to the Skilling/Warring Event. ~Abs --------------------  "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:33 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | No we can't blame Joe, but we CAN blame all those that insist we be at their war training (which is supposed to take an hour), and then those decide they're going to have a PKRI during Tab's event. This is a crock. Tabs is trying her best to adhere to the rules that no two events be scheduled at the same time, yet here are the war mongers interrupting one of HER events. Where is the fairness here people? -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:41 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 | It doesn't matter. Not any more. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:41 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | I enjoy warring, people who won't like it don't come to wars and lie about it. At least I'm honest about not coming since I've been working all day and as I recall both events were voluntary so politely mind your own business. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:46 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Type Group: Guest Posts: 223 Member No.: 686 Joined: May 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 16 | This isn;t even worth arguing about. Imo topic should be locked before unneeded drama. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:46 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | I understand that they're both voluntary but a little consideration should have been shown seeing as how it's posted that nobody should be scheduling things that conflict with other events. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:51 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | The event WAS planned, the FFA arena was part of Mugger's training, and a clan rushed us, what are we going to do? Just leave like that? No, almost everyone there wanted to stay and enjoy themselves. Joe did what he wanted to do, and correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of people miss out on wars/run ins intentionally because they don't find it enjoyable, same case here, he doesn't find skilling events enjoyable, and since some people refuse to attend wars/pkri's, he has every right to refuse to do that as well. I personally stand on the middle side: I'm a hardcore warrer, but I also try to skill whenever there is an event (I'm F2P so skilling events are hard to come by, Skill of the week doesn't motivate me enough), but personally, warring is always going to be my highest priority on RS. --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian.  | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:54 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: ``Pete Group: Banned Posts: 913 Member No.: 775 Joined: June 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 49 |
Fairness? Psh. It's so strongly urged by so many members to bug the hell out of people to come to a PKRI, like with that stupid banner for the mod war the other week, you don't see shit like that for skilling events, but i do understand why Tabs is upset about this and i don't see why you had to make it a run in when it was just a practice knowing there was an event 1 hour after the practice. What i want to know is... Why must you all be so obsessed with attendance at wars and PKRI's and go as far as texting people and a stupid banner to get people to a fucking rs war, but you can't do anything like that for skilling events. Just makes you wonder if the Events leader rank is really needed anymore, people certainly don't look like they want them anymore also you wonder why the skillers left here don't like coming to wars anymore? -------------------- Mikel Arteta  Tim CahillNothing But The Best | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 08:57 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | Actually I got a random PM in the middle of the PKRI. Also this topic is harassing people about skills events. I can also ask the reverse, why must you be so obsessed with attendance at skill events? Need a lot of people to take down those trees? EDIT: The event was voluntary anyone who wanted to go to your event could leave and do so, the people who stayed actually want a war more than once every three weeks unlike skills which has multiple events every week along with SOTW. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 09:05 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 |
Well because generally for wars & PKRI's, the more people, the more fun we will have, as we will have a higher success rate. We can't exactly make banners and sigs saying "Farming Runs Event, I want 100 people signed up, otherwise this banner won't come off". We do make banners and sigs for Skills Wars against other clans, because the more people = higher chance we will win. We can't do that for mini-events. When we had Skills Olympics, a new forum went up, a new banner, sign ups, team leaders, everything. We're not all pro-warring. ~Abs -------------------- "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 09:08 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 |
I sent a pm to almost every one. But very few even replied. Joe, your opinion is becoming widespread through WG. That the only events that matter are war events. That a simple war training event that shouldn't have lasted longer than 1 hr turned into a pkri. And then the pkri goes to take priority over everything else. I get sick of people noticing the channel for war training or pkri or wars. I rarely go to them, because I know I'm not any good at them. There is no point for me learning how to get better because my internet connection is shit, and I'm more of a liability at wars due to lag and lost connection. Plus the lag makes it to where changing to mage gear and binding is impossible for me without being targeted and ko'd very quickly. I'd show up for more war events, if I get a solid 15+ attendance at all skilling events. And not just my events, ALL skilling events. Oh, and Joe? Those trees are only visible to the person who planted them. So yes, it's much better to have a lot of people. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 09:10 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | I don't need an escort to the bathroom and I don't need an escort to cut my trees. P.S. I get sick of all the notices about skill events, it works both ways. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 09:27 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 | I spam the channel normally. NOT notice. Notice is quite a bit more obnoxious, and should only be the person leading that event doing the notice. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 09:33 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 | To be fair, Tabs, My event wasn't going to last just an hour. It was scheduled in advance to start at 8pm GMT, and my normal trainings last for 1h 30mins - 2 hours. This one finished at 9:25pm, less than normal. You're wrong, Random events don't take priority over Skill Events. However, Planned ones do  ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 09:37 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130 | ALSO: I see some people are considering the PKRI as an extension to the event. This is not the case whatsoever, lol. We started in CWA for some short tanking exercises (lasted 15-20mins) and then headed into FFA arena for pile transition practice. During the pile transition practice, we came up against EXER and so it's classification technically becomes a PKRI. It was not a planned PKRI nor was the intention of heading into FFA (FOR THE PRACTICE) to meet another major clan like Exer. I have no regrets that we ran into Exer, as all it did was help me with the pile transition exercise in my war training. ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader || | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 10:03 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Mistah_Vince Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2235 Member No.: 233 Joined: February 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 85 | Honestly, this shit is getting out of hand. Some people like Warring. Some people like Skilling. NO events are Mandatory. Let people spend their time how they see fit. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 10:12 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 |
Rick, for once I agree with you! I do think its rather sad though. A planned event should take priority over a random event, its only fair. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 10:23 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Banned Posts: 2447 Member No.: 114 Joined: January 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 149 | The War Training was planned. The PKRI wasn't. I'll get used to the idea that any event I make will be scheduled over no matter what, k? And that any random PKRI takes priority. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 10:24 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | I can just about guarantee you that had Tabs held an event that people love to attend during a war training event, she would have her head ripped off for "double booking", yet when it's done to her, it's okay because a Raid Leader said so. Pathetic imho -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 10:30 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Abs Group: Emeritus Posts: 2071 Member No.: 4 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 97 | *Abs Points to Mugger's Posts. You can call it PKRI or War Practice Event, it was ONE Event, ONE Event Attendance was given out, The PKRI was the SAME Event as the War Practice Event, which was scheduled for 2 hours or so. I'm going to lock this, because there is no solution to the problem, there is nothing that needs to be done, most useful opinions have been expressed, the Event Leader & Raid Leader have also voiced their opinion. ~Abs EDIT: I'll unlock the topic, no flames please, keep it simple, voice your opinion lightly. Whoever flames on this topic will be getting a 20%+ Warn. -------------------- "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Wg Council & Secondary Leader - 21/10/07 to 24/12/08 Msn: [email protected] | ||||
Posted: October 13, 2008 11:35 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 | People can do what they want. If a pkri pops up in the middle of a war training session, so be it. People will go to the one they enjoy most. If people honestly didn't like pkri's they would have left for your skilling event. But no, most people go to the pkri. If you honestly think about it, a clan is known for its warring. That's what people post on rsc. That's how you get lots of members. Sure we may have an added 'skilling' side to wg, but there is a reason there is a whole "clan wars + fights" forum and not a "skilling" forum on rsc. So yes, I would attend a warring event over a skilling event purely because it gets our clan name out there a lot more. --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: October 14, 2008 12:36 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 |
/topic.  -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 14, 2008 12:39 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Why should the topic be locked Joe? I think it's very healthy for people to be able to voice their opinions even if it is in conflict with you and yours.  -------------------- | ||||
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