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Posted: October 15, 2008 12:16 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155    | I think a post by the council as a whole needs to be posted in important announcements, that this is a Warring clan or a skilling clan. If it's both, just make 2 separate member lists, 1 for warring and 1 for skilling. If it's just one... Then start enforcing that one. Let the people who skill that want to war and raid be on the warring list. Theirs going to be people that want to only war, and people that only want to skill due to the previous sector system. It can't possibly divide us more then the 50 bitching posts / arguments a week. And if someone does start shit? Quit being so lenient and start punishing. --------------------  The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011        | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:22 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | Edit im an idiot -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011  http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:23 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 | I seriously don't see how separate memberlists would divide us. We still are in the same irc and we are there together more than at an event. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:24 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Rob, dont even start on the punishing people thing, I got raped for mentioning it yesterday. Your idea, however sound on paper. Failed miserably last time. Sectors was a disaster. It really didnt work. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:26 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 |
If you read around the forums, working as a whole is failing miserably aswell. And I didn't say punish people for not coming to events, I said punish people for starting shit with other people. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:28 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 |
Yea i know, but sectors = really bad. I mean we fell apart, mass leavings and everything. And nooo, i mentioned that People need punishing, for flaming and everything, and got raped for it. So yea. Not a good idea to mention it. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:28 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 |
maybe we can give it another try, if it doesn't work we won't be off better then when we started so theirs no harm in trying again -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:31 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | I could care less if someone tries to rape me for voicing a opinion lee lol. Why did the sectors fail last time? Why did people leave? I wasn't here to know the answers, but the people who do im sure could work on the previous problems that were there. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:32 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | I really think this whole thing is funny. Let me explain something. There is no such thing as skillers are warmongers. We are all RUNESCAPE PLAYERS. Sure, some people like one over the other, but does that mean we label them? I'll admit that I like warring over skilling, but I don't call myself a "warmonger." Warring and skilling are two parts of this clan and two parts of a game you play. If you joined this clan to war and not skill or skill and not war, wtf are you doing. We are the wilderness guardians. We protect the wilderness. We skill in the meantime. If there's a problem mixing the two, leave that up the the leadership. Enough of these stupid topics. One situation happens, we fix it, we don't blow up the world. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:39 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 |
I agree. What im asking for is a official topic to clarify it once and for all, is this a warring clan? A skilling clan? a warring and skilling clan? Im not saying we need the sectors because I honestly doubt that would happen. I just want the topic. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:42 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Samurai-JM Group: Emeritus Posts: 3204 Member No.: 117 Joined: January 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | Sectors again? That was fun and all, and I personally never saw the problem with them... but who knows what could come from that all over again. We used to be both, a community clan. Best in the world too... -------------------- -=}¤- Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici -¤{=-  W I N N I N G | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 12:46 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | Maybe not sectors, Just split the members list. Not the forums. People who don't want to come to raids don't... People who don't want to skill don't... People who want to do both.. Can. And of course, keep Wars manditory. Its not like their every day. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 01:15 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Wars arn't mandatory! Nor will they ever be. George said so earlier. But sectors. When we had tons of members, was ok. But then because of that, division became apparent within those sectors. Thats what went badly. My arguement, is that warring is a large, if not the biggest part of being in a clan. It's what recruits us new friends, and compadres. Im not a warmonger, hell look at my stats. But I hate skilling. Its a fact. I just dont have the patience todo the same thing over and over. Its just boring. Nobody will ever change that. Simple as. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 01:23 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | When I joined somebody told me wars were mandatory lol. Wars should be Mandatory if your online then  , they don't come often and they better your clans rankings.And I never said warring isn't a big part of the clan, because its a huge part. Although I like to go to both skill and war events, warring is what ups the clans ranks. The two separate list idea is only due to the fact, if someone challenges us to a pkri, they see a ideal number that's close to them, but in fact were much lower because a decent amount are purely skillers and wouldn't even come to the event anyway. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 01:32 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: leecable Group: Banned Posts: 1938 Member No.: 410 Joined: April 1, 2008 Total Events Attended: 178 | Yea i understand waht you are saying, but the skillers are know going to moan that there skilling events should be mandatory. Its impossible to win. Sectors/2 lists, will never happen again. Unless our members suddenly just increase 10 fold. And what about they people. Like Vince, that like to skill and war? What list do they go on? Its all alot to thnk about really. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 01:34 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | People like Vince and myself would go on both lists, since we both like to skill and war. Hell, I wouldn't mind going to 1 skill mandatory event per 1 war mandatory event. Compromising and working out the kinks is easy. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 01:59 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | When I was a lvl 90 and joined the clan as a skiller, the war people would invite me to come along with them. I stayed on there list if I attended 1 war a week. Which was pretty easy to do, cause they were always dragging me along. Actually the two lists were not all that bad for me. But now if we had it divided, I know I would never war. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 02:47 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Yingy Group: Clan Friend Posts: 2205 Member No.: 27 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 21 |
Because warring is being forced onto us, not like it used to be.
If i remember correctly during a skill of the week, i think it was fishing... Mickey was warned for not showing up.. Forcing people is a bad thing and threatening people is even worse. -------------------- Friend's Forver The Long Road Ahead - 91/99 Prayer   | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 03:22 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Randy, I read on one of your posts in this thread where you said something along the lines of..."We protect the wilderness. We skill in the meantime". Exactly what wilderness are we protecting and from whom? The original basis of this clan was to thwart off pkers killing of innocents or non skulled players....most of the time they were skillers at rune rocks. Now that the threat isn't there anymore, we've changed our mindset to a one of power and rankings. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 03:23 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | But world pvp is around the corner  -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 05:34 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 | see, even with vectors last time, skill sector people still were attending wars helping the clan, but skill events were skill people only. i seriously cant see this problem everyone is saying there is division in the clan, i cant see this, maybe a few people with grudges but thats it, not need to go force the clan to divide by making sectors again. leave it how it is honestly and harden the fuck up people --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 05:50 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 | If it would work how it is, that'd be awesome! -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 06:05 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 |
i dont think that its not working the only problem with this is skill events are not mandatory, wars and trainings are so inside of dividing the clan, if people are gonna have such a sook on the topic, make skill events mandatory -------------------- This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 08:10 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Sativas Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2255 Member No.: 1305 Joined: August 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 155 |
Like I said, I wouldn't mind going to a mandatory skills event if people stopped bitching lol. -------------------- The Ultimate Skilling and Combat Badges Updated June 17th, 2011 | ||||
Posted: October 15, 2008 10:07 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 |
Maybe the attitudes have changed. When I was in skill sector, they actually liked when I came to wars. I was even worse back then cause I didn't realize what fall in meant. But they were just being friends and wanted me along. I really don't want sectors myself. I just don't want to war any more. I've done what you have suggested. I've harden up and now will speak out. War is no longer any fun. This is what it has come down to for me personally. Call it a grudge or whatever you want. But I still don't want to war anymore. I've tried it for almost 9 months and have trained up 10+ combat lvls, but bottom line is I don't want to go anymore. I'm willing to do many things to help the clan but war is not going to be one of them. -------------------- Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~ | ||||
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