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Posted: January 13, 2009 07:20 pm  | |||||||
     IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6    | Who are we? What is our name and what are our duties as clan members here? Does the name mean anything anymore since there's no wilderness? Have we lost our focus with the new things being introduced into the clan/RS world? Do our morals and ways of thinking change? Think of those questions for a while before posting your responses. I'd really like to see what people think...seriously. I'm seeing things going on that I'm not too proud to say I'm associated with, however, it don't mean I'm going anywhere. I'd just like to know how others feel. One final question: What does being a Wilderness Guardian mean to you? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:29 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Geofff Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1238 Member No.: 608 Joined: May 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 96 | Wilderness Guardians Wilderness Guardians and to obey rules etc. No No Yes Getting flamed alot --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:30 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I love the clan, we take in people that others would say "no way". We take the side of honor and love each other as family. Sometimes that gets clouded a bit. Just as a child might poke their own brother with a stick, we poke fun of each other at times. But as family we stand up for each other too. Doing the right thing is not always the popular decision to make. I agree about the name being one to remember. I don't like seeing people joining pk teams or clans. I think it tarnishes what we stand for. We are suppose to be different in a good way. This new pvp stuff has caused some greed and rush of adrenalin to interfere possibly. I want to be able to know we aren't just another clan out to war or skill but one that respects what our first members knew was the most important things . . . community, honor and pride. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:35 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Boy Geoff, sure put alot of thought into those answers. I didn't mean to overwhelm you with so many difficult questions. Rach...once again you prove without a doubt why you're member of the month. -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:38 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | WG has always been the shield of the innocent which is why I joined. Even with the changes I still believe WG stands for what is right, honor if you will. Being a Guardian has always meant that I hold up a candle in the night no matter if we are alone or whether the world doesn't like it. -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:40 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: {Rene} Group: Guest Posts: 838 Member No.: 267 Joined: February 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | I guess you can't word what being a wg member means to you very easily. But it's not something you disband easily. I always kept ties to Wg even when I was gone and when I saw a topic about you guys it always interested me to go and read it. I guess Wg is something that will be a part of you even when you're gone from the direct clan. --------------------  | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:45 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | My response to your questions: We're WG, a clan founded on strict anti RPK focus and on honourable tactics. This means we only PK those who have the intention of PK'ing. That means we don't pile non-skulled people who aren't out to PK, and we also don't pile trainers/skillers/people doing clues and similar cases. We also have restrictions on PK'ing those who are out to pk, as we don't crash/pj/Pile PKRI returners and so on. Having no wilderness doesn't mean we don't stick to our morals, because our clan was founded on these morals. Without them we're like any other clan, perhaps even like RoT. Our morals may seem to put on 'unnecessary weight' on us to the average outsider, but these morals also give us respect, even if we don't see it publicly, we know it that someone out there we helped out or didn't pile still respects us. Our morals do not change because they were made not to be changed, as there is no justification for RPK'ing and being NH. In all honesty, being a Wilderness Guardian to me is to be like any clanner out there, but with a lot higher standards and morals. We place an obligation on ourselves that others don't, and we don't get rewards out of it. Because it's what we pride ourselves with, to help out the 'innocents' and to PK honourably. In the end, I can't say what WG means to me as I can't really describe it, it's one of the things that mean something to you but you can't describe that, you know?  Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a lover of PvP, and people sometimes wonder why I chose WG of all clans when my combat level allows me to join more PK involved clans, and when my RS financial status makes me able to afford mass returning in PKRI's. It's because I like PvP'ing with a higher standard and morals, I don't like all the Crashing, Hacking and other dishonourable practices other clans have, I don't like it at all. WG on the other hands is founded on being against those practices, which is one of the reasons I decided to join as a member. --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian.  | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:50 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | Raging, that's probably the most intelligent thing I've ever seen you post.  Can I ask you another question? Judging by your responses to the last set of questions I think I already know the answer you're going to give....but: Do you think that it's alright to be a part of an active pk team while you're a member of WG? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 07:57 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 |
In all honesty it really depends on those PK Teams, Some of these PK teams actually frown on dishonourable practices (and I mean, not just add them to a list of forums, but actually disciplines those who violate these rules). I don't see harm in joining those as long as WG is your main priority. Then we have the other type, and they're probably the majority of PK teams. These PK teams have no problems at all with using dishonourable tactics, some of them frown on dishonourable tactics officially only, but 'unofficially' they do all sorts of dishonourable tactics. These teams stand against what WG represents, which is why I'm against joining those and don't think people should join them. I'm not a big fan of the PvP Scene which is why I don't know a lot of PK teams, probably the only ones I know are: Team X (Uses lots of welfare tactics) and Walking Destiny (Which I don't know a lot about). -------------------- MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 08:03 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rick Hamm Group: Ex-Member Posts: 573 Member No.: 1214 Joined: July 14, 2008 Total Events Attended: 6 | So you think that we, as a clan, should acknowledge only the "good" pk teams and turn our backs on those that are morally questionable? The reason I'm going on about this is because back in the day, when we first started this clan, it was against the rules to, what you call it nowadays, as NH pking. How are we to know which are the good ones and which are the bad and should it really make any difference? A pk team is just that, they're going out pking, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent, no? Granted, some will argue that WG are pkers and while that's officially correct, our morals and our bylaws state no attacking non skulled players (which I don't think is possible anymore) and to defend those who are being killed for no other reason but personal gain. Does the PvP worlds take away from what our clan defends? -------------------- | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 08:18 pm | |||||||
 IRC Nickname: Nirvanas Group: Ex-Member Posts: 334 Member No.: 240 Joined: February 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 24 | I cant spell wiedness gardens yet -------------------- Safe as fuck mate, safe as fuck | ||||||
Posted: January 13, 2009 08:30 pm | |||||||
| IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 |
Yes, perhaps include a list of teams that should be allowed. OR consult a council member before joining one so that we can be sure their rules follow our ARPK'ing rules.
The majority follow this scenario yes, I believe we shouldn't join such teams. But if there teams that stick to the honour code and they don't practice anything that can be deemed as RPKing, they should be allowed. Some teams PK only to hunt other teams which are out to PK, while still not following the dishonourable and RPK tactics. These teams should be, in my opinion, allowed.
In all honesty I think of the PvP worlds as a bigger version of the Wilderness. There are few changes that may have effect on our ARPK rules, such as the ability to PK people not in the wilderness and so on. These new situations have been added to the ARPK rules in the General Matters forum. So no, I'd say PvP Worlds do not and should not make us abandon our ARPK rules, there are still 'innocents' such as those who train with the brawler skilling gloves, and those who train in the PvP Worlds to avoid the large amount of people in some of their activities. I.E. Bandit trainers, runite ore miners. -------------------- MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||||
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