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Posted: January 17, 2009 11:01 pm  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls Group: Banned Posts: 2956 Member No.: 422 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 130    | Right guys, obviously we ended up loosing our recent Exodus PKRI. This was due to a number of main factors, which we need to improve on. 1) Hybriding We need far more hybrids. Over the CWA-Era, we became soft and only half people were hybriding. Now, PvP is back, people die far quicker, so a hell of a lot more binders are needed. From now on, we shall be enforcing a mandatory bind policy. If you want to war or pkri with WG, you must be hybriding (apart from Snipers and high-up fall in leaders). This is a very important thing that needs to take effect, and it will have done so by our next major PKRI. 2) Returning Our returning was way too slow for that pkri. At the begining, we were doing absolutely epic, we were getting KO after KO. Then, as our numbers decreased we were unable to get as many. Exodus on the other hand had people returning over and over and over, all within like 2 or 3 minutes of dieing. Remember, get like 50 bronze axes in your bank, and when you die, hop to w27 -> use glory to edge -> get gear on + brzone wc axe -> run to canoe -> use canoe to level 35 wild -> run yourself down to 70% run while getting back to greaters. This should take no longer than 3 minutes if you do it propperly. Get working on it. Another method is the F2P familiars method, check this guide. 3) Attendance PKRIs need to be taken very very seriously. If we have a PKRI, you really really need to do your best to be online at PKRIs. They are more important than RAW Wars without a doubt. You let your clanmates down by not attending. Today we had like 35-40 people turn up in total. This, for a clan of 80 is not good enough. We're EXTREMELY lenient with our attendance, but when it comes to PKRI's and full out wars, we expect a good performance. I am going to be discussing a policy with the council whereby we might revert people back to Trial Guardian from Guardian if we feel they are not active. Trial Guardians are far more scrutinisely analysed daily, and so by adding inactive guardians to that, we could weed people out. We also need a stronger, larger member base. Recruitment needs to be the top of EVERYBODY's agenda over the next few months. Get on RSC, Sals, etc. Get your friends, old clan mates, etc. 4) Dieing too quicky Many people died far too quicky. At the begining of a fight, fine, you're likely to be taken very low hp without acting quickly. This needs to change. You should make sure you have your sound effects turned up INCREDIBLY loud so that as soon as you're hit ONCE, you put on melee pray. A good hint to remember is, a fall in leader always hits first, followed by 2-5 seconds of no hits, which is the time it takes the opposing members to get on you. The leader hitting you is an excellent warning. You ought to be able to tank for at least 45-60 seconds, maybe more. Feedback is welcome from members on any of these points, or any others they feel need raising. ~Mugger84 -------------------- Mugger84 Member Of WG Since 4th April 2008. WG Raid Leader Since 20th June 2008. WG Council Since 20th November 2008. Banned from WG Since 6th March 2009. DF IG Since 6th March 2009. DF FA Since 15th March 2009. Ex-Member Of WG Since 26th March 2009. Member of DF Since 6th April 2009. Clan Friend of WG Since 4th June 2009. --- ||Ex-WG Warlord || Current Member of DF || Ex-Rampage Leader ||  | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:03 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: [Randy] Group: Raid Leader Posts: 5065 Member No.: 16 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 499 | Binding is the only way to win. By not binding you are saying you don't want to win. --------------------   | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:08 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I think we just rushed into the PKRI scene too early and went up against a clan that was better than us. We just need to get more experience, thats all. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:09 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Robertw56 Group: Guest Posts: 1908 Member No.: 15 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 118 | If I say anything I fear I'll get a warn level  We need to improve guys, that's all I'll say. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:10 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | You know something is wrong when the recap for a 2 hour run-in has been written and posted 40 minutes after the fight started.  Anyways.. 50 signed as yes, another 10 or so said maybe..35-40 showed up. Pathetic. Nobody returned. Nobody was binding. I only managed to eat like 10 of my food and tank for like 30 seconds before they downed me. They had excellent binds and their rangers tore me to shreds. As soon as I returned, we called the fight off. 0 kills. 1 death. --------------------   Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:11 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 | yea i wasnt binding sorry. I was using melee/range and returning with Gdz tele. sorry i'll be binding next time. And ya they were very hard to tank, about 40-50 people pretty much all lvl 120 and binding, got koed twice within 10 seconds :\ Maybe we should have a few more tanking practice in ffa Gdz, because probably a few of us arent very used to tanking at gdz instead of Cwa --------------------  24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:12 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dnovelta Group: Emeritus Posts: 2750 Member No.: 130 Joined: January 20, 2008 Total Events Attended: 137 | We need work... Was binding while not being hit, but each time I let a bind off I'd drop out of our group and be alone...then die. Even with prayer I would basically die instantly. Returned twice. 0 Kills 2 Deaths --------------------   | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:13 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Ansatsublade Group: Emeritus Posts: 765 Member No.: 101 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 120 | First time I ate all my food but 6 or so, Ran back, the moment they saw me casting 1 bind... they pilled me again. I think they didn't like me or something. But yeh, we need practice in this (was my first pkri tbh) --------------------  | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:19 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jesseh Group: Guest Posts: 2670 Member No.: 297 Joined: March 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 222 | Bind to win --------------------   17/6/08--> 12/9/08--> 29/11/08--> 5/1/09--> 2/3/09(Left)--> 19/7/09(Rejoin)--> 2/8/09
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Posted: January 17, 2009 11:20 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: {Rene} Group: Guest Posts: 838 Member No.: 267 Joined: February 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | I really planned to make a detailed post about what I feel needs to be changed. But who cares. Some members won't act unless they get some personal gain from it --------------------  | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:21 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 | Mandatory bind checks? Nature rune crafting events if people cant afford runes. --------------------  LOLPNS  Perm banned. | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:25 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1545 Member No.: 1451 Joined: November 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 91 | I was pathetic. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:29 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I think there were alot of us that this was our first pkri like this. Be patient and try again. Don't be in such a rush to add new rules.  --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:29 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Chimpy Group: Banned Posts: 2521 Member No.: 1474 Joined: November 16, 2008 Total Events Attended: 133 |
This. Don't rush into the PvP scene, we'll just get embarassed, like we did. --------------------    | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:30 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Indivi2you Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 5361 Member No.: 43 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 623 | Nobody binded well, nobody returned too fast, and iunno Tbh, they are a better clan. We can't say they arent. Or they just have more lvls and skills and raped us, thats the other way of saying it. Basically, we just need practice. -------------------- The First, The Last, and the Only ~FLO Never say never, because limits, like fears, are often just an illusion. ~Michael Jordan      | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:37 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Zemus Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2786 Member No.: 128 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 275 |
Maybe have all of our 99 rangers use range/melee and Gdz tele, and everyone else bind? 15 people with 99 range (im sure they have 90 mage for the tele as well), maybe 95 [21 people] but we still need a good number of people binding. -------------------- 24th to 2496 Overall ~ 29th to 120 Dungeoneering ~ Guardian since November 2007 ~ - I now play WoW lols - Server: US Jubei'Thos Faction: Horde 85 Blood-Elf Paladin 85 Troll Hunter | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:42 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 |
I agree with this. Only allow 99 rangers with 90 mage to RANGE. That way they can tele up quicker. Everyone else MUST bind. -------------------- LOLPNS Perm banned. | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:51 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | Uno from what i hear all i can say is PKRI - Just drag it... As soon as you get hit bolt it to the farthest place u can go and there u can tank it or watver. If your at west rocks as soon as u get hit and ur close to a rock run over it once and bolt to gds. OR you can bolt to gds rite away. The farther away from they are from you the harder it takes to kill and in pkri. Staying organized is the key but when your opponent cant keep up, and they cant ko you, you get the upperhand. Binding - Binding in here is more crucial then binding in CWA... Cuz if you cant bind in pvp then your just walking dead for the clan. Binding in pvp is better... then CWA cuz you can return. Bring about 100 natures ( 50 binds ) good enuf then you can go die. and return with 100 natures again. NO BINDS = NO KO = OPPONENT HAVING MORE NUMBERS = YOU GETTING KO'D Returning - F2P returning takes under 3 minutes, 5 minutes tops if not running here and there. P2P returning best choice is canoe then ardy lever. Reason im not saying tele is because if your not a fall in leader, then you better be binding. SLOW RETURNING = LESS OPTS = NO KO FAST RETURNING = MORE OPTS = MORE KO Attendance - MORE PEOPLE = MORE KO Guys if you say ur a guardian. That your WG. Then represent your clan. Fight beside you buddies... If you about community then put friends/clan over your stupid pixels. Tbh rune is cheap as shit these days... And dont lie to me and say u cant afford it then a few weeks later you buy like 5m worth of gear+crap that you say u use on training... 1m = 5 rune sets + scims Money in RS is an easy thing to come by... Especially if your p2p ffs .... You can make like 10m in a week if you TRIED. And dont say your cant and your poor. Because that just says ur lazy and just want shit handed to you. And I dont mean to offend any skillers. Skill all you want, tbh im going to be a skiller soon so i can make money without doing so much work. All i ask is attend pkri's we only get like 1-2 a month.... Enjoy it fool around with your clan mates abit. Just relax and then when its over, if you win then congratz, if you lose then chin up next pkri you'll be better prepared. Then u can go back to living your rs life. Meh but besides that good job WG. Sorry i couldnt attend came for the last hour then it was called off. Heh ran 20 streets through street lights fell, almost sprained my ankle, but i lived  -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0  | ||||
Posted: January 17, 2009 11:53 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | Should i range or mage if I'm 99 in both tho? --------------------   | ||||
Posted: January 18, 2009 12:08 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | Vephy Tbh u do both... lol Its wat i did in EoS and it works epicly -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0 | ||||
Posted: January 18, 2009 12:11 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Vephy Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 6186 Member No.: 813 Joined: June 10, 2008 Total Events Attended: 478 | Kwl, I'll try that. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: January 18, 2009 03:00 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: [JC] Group: Emeritus Posts: 3320 Member No.: 23 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 147 | I do feel that once again this a "Knee Jerk" reaction to the loss of this PKRI. What happened to the WG of a while ago where rules were only implemented when absolutely nessacary? I can't see how this will benefit war's, because if people don't bind/hybrid now I can see them just signing up as no/0% because they dont feel comfortable going to a war an hybriding. I would imagine that this would be particularily evident in those members who have low def or are emeritus (so easy to KO because of their stats or lack of practice), as I said to a council member:
And I'm sure many will agree that telling people who don't war that much to hybrid is going to negate any positive effects of the increased binding due to easy KO's for our opponent (whoever that may be). Meh. --------------------  Old awards wat Most Mature & Most Honourable Most Dedicated|IRC Freak|Best Emeritus Placeholder lolz | ||||
Posted: January 18, 2009 07:02 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | DOUBLEEEEEE POSTTTTTTT --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
Posted: January 18, 2009 07:11 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | Signed up as no and couldn't make it. If you want to know how to return quickly and all pkri stuff, refer to my PKRI Guide Evil, getting KO'ed while hybriding is a lot better than not hybriding at all, because we'd actually have a shot at killing our pile. That being said if you apply what I'm going to say then you shouldn't get KO'ed unless you lag. In PKRI's getting KO'ed does matter, but hybriding gets the priority. What to do when being piled as a hybrid:
Some precautions and tips:
-------------------- MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
Posted: January 18, 2009 09:31 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: {Rene} Group: Guest Posts: 838 Member No.: 267 Joined: February 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 |
This is not a knee jerk reaction. This is neccesary. A lot of people seem to think that they can get away by just doing whatever they please at wars and pkri's. If people can not hybrid I would rather not have them at the war AT ALL. You're utterly useless in a war if you are not using atleast 2 styles. And with our lack of hybrids that we have only 95+ rangers should range from now on. If they sign up for no to wars and pkri's every single time they will either be forced into Emeritus rank , banned from attending other events untill they do or simply be kicked/suspended. 'Out of practice' is a completely bullshit excuse. If you're out of practice try to attend one of the pre-war war practices. But even then. After not having warred for 3 months I attended a war and I got piled while having robes on and I still pulled one of my best tanking runs ever (22 people -0). You don't forget how to hybrid. Read up a guide to refresh your memory and everything should come natural. -------------------- | ||||
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