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Posted: January 26, 2009 02:03 pm  | |||
     IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26    | Whats your opinion on spying on other clans. Not through hacking forums or buying off private information. But through putting some account of yourself in there. Ex. Your level 110+, and you have a lv 110+ and you put it in a random 100+ clan to get their info on pk trips and not for like crashing planned events, just for hitting them in the wild, so trips are abit easier and more enjoyable. Then we follow up with those pk timings and go after them. Whats your thoughts about that. Edit: Put feedback please... Dont just post Pros: 1. Don't get hit by top rank clan 2. Decent rune 3. A decent fight 4. RSC post 5. Good practice 6. Exciting 7. Fun for everyone Cons: 1. Could get caught 2. Clan might actually be better lol 3. Members may disagree 4. We get teamed and picked on 5. Loss of rune -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian  Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0   | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 03:20 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Ansatsublade Group: Emeritus Posts: 765 Member No.: 101 Joined: January 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 120 | I have thought about this and I'll give you my opinion... If you consider that the Clan world can bee seen like real armys with real battles. I'd say it would be normal that you spy on other clans. As it is done in real life. eg. spy sats. undercover agents, etc. It CAN make raids more benefitial as we can easy locate big "walking sets of rune"... It could also give us an insight on how other clans operate in the wilderness. How they organise and so...  On the other hand. I think it would be so childish to actualy waste time on browsing for clans, and spying on them. We also have a reputation to think about, we are supposed be a becon in the clanworld and I think spying would only destroy a reputation we had to defend for so long now. I hope I don't speak for myself only when I say we are (or should be) better than that. If people spy on us I like to think this... "They spy on us because they fear us, and will do anything do destroy what we stand for." So when we spy its a sign of weaknes, used to strenghten ourselfs to be better. But puts us in a bad light in the end. And I know we are better than the rest, even without spying. So I posted "I dont know". as I neather accept it, Nor think its NH. I just think its stupid to lower ourselfs like that. We don't need spies. if other clans do so, let them. The more fun in kicking them out. Peace, Ansatsublade. EDIT: ffs, my spelling fails again =/ --------------------  | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 03:31 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Jenny Group: Emeritus Posts: 1967 Member No.: 19 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 56 | We have always used tips from other clans to get an idea about who is where. in the wildy. It is just good battle practice like Ansat said. To take it the extent of joining another clan on an alt or being dishonorable in the process isn't what WG is about. --------------------   | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 03:44 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I used to have spies in like 3 other clans back in the day # -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 06:27 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Exactly what Jenny said. It would completely wreck the idea of WG in my mind, Wilderness Guardians, not the Wilderness Dishonourable..... --------------------    | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:08 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | Just a quick thing to shout out there. Wouldnt it be considerd improving our name ?? Consider it like this, all these clans nowadays are pking clans and killing them/preventing them from hitting up anyone else. Wouldnt that help our cause of protecting the innocent so to speak ?? Since we will be expelling the pkers, before they hit some innocents. But what i said could be taken differnt ways, Il be honest i said its acceptable. But im in no way wanting to go and ruin our rep. And nor will i do it unless im subjected to it. So im clean  <3Edit: And you guys are mentioning the con of us being caught. -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0 | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:11 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | WG is supposed to be the most honorable clan in this great game of RuneScape. We really shouldn't spy. --------------------  Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:22 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | Well, we have always prided ourselves as one of the few clans that follow the code Honour and ARPK'ing If we do that, we're just like any other clan. However, getting tracks through friends, shouldn't be considered spying (I.E your friend following them in RS giving you their worlds and such) --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:25 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: bto Group: Emeritus Posts: 3815 Member No.: 196 Joined: February 3, 2008 Total Events Attended: 332 | All of the top clans do it, even though they do really dont need them I personally have 2 tracks on P2P teams, but we've never had a suitable time to hit them. -------------------- bto  Ex-WG Warlord  "It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations." | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:28 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Useph Group: Guest Posts: 267 Member No.: 125 Joined: January 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 29 | Spying is good if done properly. -------------------- Goals 78/99  | 99/99  | 92/99  | 94/99  | 82/99  | 99/99  | 77/99  mIRC Guru  WG's #1 Pyromaniac | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:52 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Pazenon Group: Emeritus Posts: 1477 Member No.: 33 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 79 | Nah. Sticking to WG's traditions and whatnot, I don't think it's an okay thing to do. -------------------- | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 09:12 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 7306 Member No.: 47 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 343 | We don't spy, but if there dumb enough to leave chats on the wilderness.. well that's just bad security... -------------------- July 5, 2007 - June 27, 2011 | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 10:44 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: [Narita] Group: Guest Posts: 695 Member No.: 1378 Joined: October 15, 2008 Total Events Attended: 34 | iv got a nh history but just no. -------------------- | ||
Posted: January 26, 2009 11:28 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 | I think spying is alright as long as no one is spying on us -------------------- | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 12:12 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Mr Glennfase Group: Emeritus Posts: 3064 Member No.: 39 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 220 | Sith. You're statement makes no sense, whatsoever. Is what you meant to say "spying is alright if they spy on us?" Please say yes lol. -------------------- That's Mr. Glennfase to you. Ex-Warlord/Council  | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 12:25 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mangomaniac2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 536 Member No.: 70 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 63 | Voted "I don't know". Yes, its beneficial, but also can hurt. Also, I think the title itself is generally misleading. Most people vote first (since they're lazy), then read the topic. By spying, its usually deemed really negative. If its used to help bring down the clan, and all those things, then yes, its horrible. A lot of clans just try to get pk/raid information though, which isn't the worse no-honour action around. --------------------  | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 12:28 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Brian|30 Group: Ex-Member Posts: 565 Member No.: 1547 Joined: December 13, 2008 Total Events Attended: 75 | That's crashing on the only real private information a clan can have. It's also multi-clanning and if it's illegal in I'm guessing most countries, it's probably no-honor on RS. It's the most disrespectful and low thing to do. It's picking on a lower clan (if the clan IS in fact lower) and though at first one might not think it effects the clan directly, it does. It can make people of the other clan want to leave because of constant losses, it can make a clan afraid of the wilderness (as we are with P2P), and it can cause distrust to all intro's (as there was/is now in our clan). So in short, no honor. -------------------- Dragon Claws Drops: 1 2 Dragonic Visage Drops: 1 Ruined Dragon Drops: 1 Abyssal Whip Drops: 1 2 | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 12:33 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 |
No, I mean that its ok to spy as long as no one is spying on us. -------------------- | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 01:04 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 | Just no. Spying=bad. hate it.  --------------------  | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 06:41 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | A Little bit more input from other members would be great. But from the looks of it my prediction is off. I guessed it would of been straight cut down the middle, but now i can see the clan is pretty strong against it. Everyone has some great input, mostly discussing the same con, but it works out. -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0 | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 05:32 pm | |||
| IRC Nickname: ^Dave^ Group: Ex-Member Posts: 735 Member No.: 1616 Joined: January 4, 2009 Total Events Attended: 23 | Im not sure what id called it but id lean it more to nh --------------------   | ||
Posted: January 27, 2009 06:08 pm | |||
 IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1545 Member No.: 1451 Joined: November 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 91 | I believe iff we catch a clan spying on us, we have the right to spy on them, otherwise no. I gud spy ya?! --------------------    | ||
Posted: January 31, 2009 01:17 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | not gunna vote id be hypocritic spying is a part of life get used to it. its our job to find the spies and take em out and our choice wether to put spies in other clans. its not nh this has been discussed with rsc staff blah blah -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011  http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||
Posted: February 25, 2009 03:05 am | |||
 IRC Nickname: Wayne|Eregion2 Group: Emeritus Posts: 3087 Member No.: 156 Joined: January 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 8 | Absolutely NH. --------------------  | ||
Posted: February 27, 2009 02:52 am | |||
| IRC Nickname: Mmangler Group: Emeritus Posts: 1595 Member No.: 1580 Joined: December 24, 2008 Total Events Attended: 165 | I voted that spying is no honor and an honor clan should not spy. -------------------- | ||
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