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 Not a Good Memory, Regarding today's tanking practice
Posted: January 29, 2009 10:33 pmTop
   
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I'm seriously disappointed with certain individuals in this clan at the moment. I'm not afraid to name them because they know what they were doing and continued to do it.

Saad
Lee
Gili for a time, he might have stopped
Kero I think

Don't take it as a flame bait or something like that, just wanted you guys to know that I want you guys to change.

There are certain responsibilities that you hold when you are a part of WG, or at least that's what I thought. These people were fooling around during the whole event even when the leaders said to stop. Fooling around during a skill event or some other events is alright, we're just having to have a good time, but when it comes to war practice, PKRI's, raids, or wars, it's time to grow up and have some maturity and respect for the leaders. I know you guys were trying to have a good time but that does not give you an excuse to act up during an important event like this.

Just because you have a high position or have been in the clan long doesn't mean you have the right to goof off and disobey leaders. That sets an example for trials and new clan members, an extremely bad one. The event today reminded me of times when I was in TORC where everyone messed around, attacking others, not falling in, and acting immature. Guess what, it's the reason I left TORC.

You guys probably know that I'm one to mess around when the time comes but I'm also one who expects people to follow their leaders when they are told. This ranges from keeping a banner on your signature to stop attacking someone when you are told.

If behavior doesn't change and I see a steady trend of immaturity at such events, I might reconsider being a member of the Wilderness Guardians.

Event leaders, you were doing fine but try to keep the members in line, whether it be threatening to kick someone from the event or threatening to warn them. Part of being a leader is to know how to discipline someone and make sure all your members are in line, even if they are a good friend.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 10:50 pmTop
   


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Multiple arguments against this:

1) It's the same people every time attending so we get bored

2) If we didn't spend 30 minutes getting started in the first place it might help

3) Respect comes from attitude, I was listening to the raid leaders argue for 3 min about a person's name

4) They assume the same style of training works, which judging by the current state of affairs it doesn't

5) They want to make it "real" but then complain when it's not their personal Candyland

6) Jess said we could bind snipers so stop bitching about it Maths and Mickey.

7) Maybe if the event was actually useful people would stop goofing off.

P.S. Nothing at you I just needed to rant. hash.png
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 10:55 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ January 29, 2009 05:50 pm)
Multiple arguments against this:

1) It's the same people every time attending so we get bored

2) If we didn't spend 30 minutes getting started in the first place it might help

3) Respect comes from attitude, I was listening to the raid leaders argue for 3 min about a person's name

4) They assume the same style of training works, which judging by the current state of affairs it doesn't

5) They want to make it "real" but then complain when it's not their personal Candyland

6) Jess said we could bind snipers so stop bitching about it Maths and Mickey.

7) Maybe if the event was actually useful people would stop goofing off.

P.S. Nothing at you I just needed to rant. hash.png

1) We have new members that need role models

2) Nothin yet, doesn't really go against what I was saying

3) Respect also comes from knowing and following those above you

4) Again, we have new members and even if we might have the same event, they need our support by helping them tank. 15 people is harder to tank than 5

5) Don't know quite what you mean, but this event was targeted for tanking, so the more attack power we had, the more practice tanking we'll have

6) When we were fallen in it is not a time to bind. It's a time to fall in. Don't get technical about her not telling you when you can bind and when you cannot, it's common sense.

7) It's useful to some people. See how rachel and I improved?

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Posted: January 29, 2009 10:56 pmTop
   


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QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ January 29, 2009 10:50 pm)
Multiple arguments against this:

1) It's the same people every time attending so we get bored

2) If we didn't spend 30 minutes getting started in the first place it might help

3) Respect comes from attitude, I was listening to the raid leaders argue for 3 min about a person's name

4) They assume the same style of training works, which judging by the current state of affairs it doesn't

5) They want to make it "real" but then complain when it's not their personal Candyland

6) Jess said we could bind snipers so stop bitching about it Maths and Mickey.

7) Maybe if the event was actually useful people would stop goofing off.

P.S. Nothing at you I just needed to rant. hash.png

Cha what he said without the cussing.

Tbh if I dont have to tank then im going to mass bind people off and test out different variations of binding gear so i can get the best def against snipers incase i needa do a clutch bind.

I listen to jess and the leades 100%. If it looks like im not then im lagging. Tbh I attend all these events as much as possible and i practice my mass bind switching n prayin so i get used to it in wars.

Honestly if I know im not going to be tanking then i'll be practicing my bind tactic and anti sniping. Without anti sniping then the war isnt authentic. Same with mass binding.

Oh and the binding when we're falling in isnt me lol...

So sorry if you think im goofing off
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 10:58 pmTop
   
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It's not as much as with you practicing tanking Kero, you hardly need any practice at all. It's that others need practice and it's more important to get them better than it is to get you better, no offense. When you do what everyone else is doing instead of going off on your own you're showing respect to not only the raid leaders, but the new members as well.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:05 pmTop
   
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i agree with joe, those training events are absolutly pointless.

so we get abit better by tanking what, 10 people?

how about training events are organised after wars so we have a big number of people.

Also joe is right, its not members fault for messing around on training events when raid leaders are doing totally irrelavent stuff during a war.

also kero, maybe you should work on not being a smartass during wars. keep your rune on when getting attacked, keep in the pile, and eat when hit.

and put rune on when being sniped everyone, srs
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:09 pmTop
   
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At the very least training events teach you how to be organized which it seems we are failing at. What many people don't understand is when someone is your leader "he is your god" . It doesn't matter how pointless what he commands is, argue after, do now. It's the same with events. Just because an event is "pointless" for you doesn't mean that it is pointless for someone else or is an excuse to goof off. Just respect those who might need practice.

I happen to benefit greatly from such events, I've improved so much with binding since I started playing RS again.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:12 pmTop
   


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Uno the only thing im not doing with the group is mass binding and thats what i do in real wars to stop the snipers. And the newer members should listen to jess while the experianced are getting snipers off them so they are more comfortable on how real situations are
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:17 pmTop
   
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I say it helps the newer members because the more people on the tanker, the harder it is to tank and thus the more experience they get. This event was not about making everyone better at whatever they do at wars, it was about having better tanks.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:23 pmTop
   
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Even so, I told you to stop attacking me when you were told to fall in, yet some of you ignored me. And Joe, the name thing was yesterday, when the oposing clan had 3 people left, so don't complain about that.

And to Jayson, you don't get that much better, but we teach the basics to those who don't them, and give them the chance to try it out, and our opts doesn't make it too hard for them, so it's easier for them to give it a go for the first time.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:25 pmTop
   
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Stop being so self-centered people. It might not have helped you but it isn't a "waste of your life" because you are helping you clan, so suck it up and be glad leaders care enough for practices.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:42 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ January 30, 2009 08:50 am)
6) Jess said we could bind snipers so stop bitching about it Maths and Mickey.

Nice flamebait.

The point of having the snipers is so you learn to put on your rune.
 
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Posted: January 29, 2009 11:42 pmTop
   


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Btw maddness i didnt kill you i was following the pile at that moment. I only anti snipe when joe was there cuz u had like 6 people on your team so we couldnt bind at all.

And im out of this topic. Sorry.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 12:02 amTop
   
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Yea, Jess did see we can bind the snipers, so it gives a chance for the pile to get away from then, hence wasting there run. So yea.

I personally, like trying to see what gear is easiest to bind in, as you may have seen, I was trying to bind in just a mage hat at one point. So yea. I personally get bored at tank practise's. I only attend to give the other new members a chance to learn how to tank.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 12:10 amTop
   
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When a leader says to stop binding, you should stop binding, no matter what gear you're trying to test out. You're ignoring the fact that while we were fallen in, and while Mickey was trying to get to the new member to teach them how to tank, you were binding them and being an annoyance, which is obviously a sign that you weren't just practicing.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 01:03 amTop
   
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Bottom line, listen to leaders.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 02:25 amTop
   
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maths is right, when being sniped, dont bind them, i know bto snipes in robes most of the time L, but just put your rune on for abit then robes back on

much simplier, and doesnt stop you attacking the target
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 06:04 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Jadi Simondz @ January 30, 2009 02:25 am)
maths is right, when being sniped, dont bind them, i know bto snipes in robes most of the time L, but just put your rune on for abit then robes back on

much simplier, and doesnt stop you attacking the target

Binding snipers is actually a very good tactic, however it makes more sense to delegate that job to anti-snipe binders. So in most cases, it is best to just put rune on, and let someone else bind the sniper, rather than risk missing the bind and being hit with robes on.
 
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If im completely honest, tanking practice like this is a complete waste of time, you get absolutely fuck all from it, if you cant tank 10 people when your ready to be attacked, its not like its a surprise, then your shouldnt be in a pk clan, cause you most certainly cant tank 30 or 40 people. So thats pointless, just a waste of time running around avoiding a few hits.

Also the event if boring as hell, you DONT have to turn up, its not mandatory, yet people do to help others, so you should stop complaining about others being active and 'Having a laugh' and concentrate on those who are to lazy to even come.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 04:30 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (X Gilli X @ January 30, 2009 10:54 am)
If im completely honest, tanking practice like this is a complete waste of time, you get absolutely fuck all from it, if you cant tank 10 people when your ready to be attacked, its not like its a surprise, then your shouldnt be in a pk clan, cause you most certainly cant tank 30 or 40 people. So thats pointless, just a waste of time running around avoiding a few hits.

Also the event if boring as hell, you DONT have to turn up, its not mandatory, yet people do to help others, so you should stop complaining about others being active and 'Having a laugh' and concentrate on those who are to lazy to even come.

It doesn't matter how boring it is, one of your superiors told you to stop what you were doing yet you did not. Just because a meeting at your job is boring and pointless it doesn't mean you have the right to jump on the tables and throw papers around.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 04:36 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (30 Str 0wnz @ January 30, 2009 04:30 pm)
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ January 30, 2009 10:54 am)
If im completely honest, tanking practice like this is a complete waste of time, you get absolutely fuck all from it, if you cant tank 10 people when your ready to be attacked, its not like its a surprise, then your shouldnt be in a pk clan, cause you most certainly cant tank 30 or 40 people. So thats pointless, just a waste of time running around avoiding a few hits.

Also the event if boring as hell, you DONT have to turn up, its not mandatory, yet people do to help others, so you should stop complaining about others being active and 'Having a laugh' and concentrate on those who are to lazy to even come.

It doesn't matter how boring it is, one of your superiors told you to stop what you were doing yet you did not. Just because a meeting at your job is boring and pointless it doesn't mean you have the right to jump on the tables and throw papers around.

Runescape is a game not a job.

Runescape is by choice not by force.

I play for fun, nothing else.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 05:31 pmTop
   
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Event leaders, you were doing fine but try to keep the members in line, whether it be threatening to kick someone from the event or threatening to warn them. Part of being a leader is to know how to discipline someone and make sure all your members are in line, even if they are a good friend.


Lol dude, I know how to discipline members, however the tank practice was not my event and I was prepared to let the raid leaders handle it and in the end it all worked out alright.
We were there to step in if things got really ugly.
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Posted: January 30, 2009 05:36 pmTop
   
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+1 to billy maybe thats why iv never gone to one?
 
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QUOTE (X Gilli X @ January 30, 2009 11:36 am)
QUOTE (30 Str 0wnz @ January 30, 2009 04:30 pm)
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ January 30, 2009 10:54 am)
If im completely honest, tanking practice like this is a complete waste of time, you get absolutely fuck all from it, if you cant tank 10 people when your ready to be attacked, its not like its a surprise, then your shouldnt be in a pk clan, cause you most certainly cant tank 30 or 40 people. So thats pointless, just a waste of time running around avoiding a few hits.

Also the event if boring as hell, you DONT have to turn up, its not mandatory, yet people do to help others, so you should stop complaining about others being active and 'Having a laugh' and concentrate on those who are to lazy to even come.

It doesn't matter how boring it is, one of your superiors told you to stop what you were doing yet you did not. Just because a meeting at your job is boring and pointless it doesn't mean you have the right to jump on the tables and throw papers around.

Runescape is a game not a job.

Runescape is by choice not by force.

I play for fun, nothing else.

Is there any reason you go to boring events like this? Is there any reason you try to make money? Runescape isn't fun most of the time, it's a lot of boring, hard work and that's why a lot of people hate the game. Why do we do all these boring things? Because they lead to fun things. This event was another one of those boring things that can lead to fun things, like winning wars.

If all you want to do is have fun, why not join an NH clan and kill skillers? Don't take this as me asking you to leave, I'm just saying that in a clan sometimes you have to sacrifice fun for others.
 
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Posted: January 30, 2009 08:04 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (30 Str 0wnz @ January 30, 2009 02:59 pm)
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ January 30, 2009 11:36 am)
QUOTE (30 Str 0wnz @ January 30, 2009 04:30 pm)
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ January 30, 2009 10:54 am)
If im completely honest, tanking practice like this is a complete waste of time, you get absolutely fuck all from it, if you cant tank 10 people when your ready to be attacked, its not like its a surprise, then your shouldnt be in a pk clan, cause you most certainly cant tank 30 or 40 people. So thats pointless, just a waste of time running around avoiding a few hits.

Also the event if boring as hell, you DONT have to turn up, its not mandatory, yet people do to help others, so you should stop complaining about others being active and 'Having a laugh' and concentrate on those who are to lazy to even come.

It doesn't matter how boring it is, one of your superiors told you to stop what you were doing yet you did not. Just because a meeting at your job is boring and pointless it doesn't mean you have the right to jump on the tables and throw papers around.

Runescape is a game not a job.

Runescape is by choice not by force.

I play for fun, nothing else.

Is there any reason you go to boring events like this? Is there any reason you try to make money? Runescape isn't fun most of the time, it's a lot of boring, hard work and that's why a lot of people hate the game. Why do we do all these boring things? Because they lead to fun things. This event was another one of those boring things that can lead to fun things, like winning wars.

If all you want to do is have fun, why not join an NH clan and kill skillers? Don't take this as me asking you to leave, I'm just saying that in a clan sometimes you have to sacrifice fun for others.

me and bilyl have been in quite a few clans, have done alto of boring shit and i still do boring shit for wg. but too much is unbareable. and how much can you learn about tanking 20 ppL? run eat thats is.
 
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