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Posted: February 1, 2009 05:29 am  | |||||
      IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129    | What is happening? There's so much shit going on in WG's community. 1. Council Distrust They are your leaders. You DID vote them in (no rigging involved). And yet you have such little faith in them. Are you forgetting they honestly are working for your benefit? There's no need to abuse them. If you think they are abusing you, think again. I have read certain bits of evidence and I'm going to say (Gary), that Randy was only sticking up for himself and his pride. He's a great leader. And by the way (Rick and Rachel), Mugger is anything BUT over-biased. He brings every issue to the council from as neutral a view as possible to start with, and he really does consult people before making decisions. Just what te fuck. These are the people who work their asses off for you. Give them some bloody respect. 2. Being Stuck-up Similar to the first point. I'm seeing it all the time. Whining and wanting your way. Drink a cup of cement and harden up. If the council makes a decision, by all means disagree, but at least offer an alternative. Don't just diss them. Every council decision is based on long discussions. (Level 4 is the busiest security forum). We value your opinions, but right now we're getting the impression that ther members are being full of themselves and thinking they know better than the leaders. It is SO insulting to go through a topic full of posts where the members feel like they are the shit, and can't put a bit of faith in the council's policies. Complain less. 3. Laziness Coming up with excuses is an epidemic now. It has become commonplace for members to expire a list of excuses before conceding to obey. In recruit-a-friend week, how many people recruited a friend? Most people are not ggetting involved. They will attend the events they want to go to, at their own convienience, and not give anything back to WG. This is more than half of WG, by the way. MUCH more than half. Missing wars, events, policies (like recruit-a-friend week) and sitting in the IRC in a half coma, talking when they feel like... How exactly are you giving to WG? By chatting, and only going to events that you fancy? You have to give more. I am demanding it. There are some members who give a lot, like Robertw56, DZ, Stokenut, Sith, Gorge, to name a few, but more than half just can't put in the effort that is required of them. EVEN WHEN YOU ARE PUTTING IN OPTIMUM EFFORT, it is a fraction of what other clans ask for. WG is the laziest clan in Runescape. I have no doubt about this. If you are dragging your ass, you are letting the clan down. You will be spoken to in private. You have to lift yor game and coe to the raids and wars and events. This culture can't keep going. It is SO cunty of you to leave the hard work to everyone else. 4. Inactivity The same story.Improving, but much too slowly. We're weeding out inatives fairly efficiaently now, but I'd much rather you get active before we have to kick or demote you. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 05:43 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Sithofwookie Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2842 Member No.: 815 Joined: June 11, 2008 Total Events Attended: 48 | Read it and agree with all of it. This really needed to be said to a few. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 05:49 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: DZ Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 2991 Member No.: 18 Joined: December 29, 2007 Total Events Attended: 238 | I really hope this topic will be an eye-opener. The events that went on regarding the council elections were horrible, I have no idea why they started in the first place or why people kept them going. I have never seen anything like that in any previous council election and was pretty disappointed to see council receive that kind of treatment. Until you have been there you have no idea how much work council members put into this clan and to see your members disagreeing or bashing you makes you feel so shitty its unbelievable. A clan cannot succeed if it's members don't put proper effort into it. We have everything set in place we need to become great(er than we already are) we just all need to be the best we can be to allow us to gain that greatness. I'm going to give a personal example here, I really dislike most skilling events and I'm not saying I go to every single one, but at times when I would much rather be doing something in-game that I enjoy, I will still go to the events I don't like for the greater good of the clan. We all need to realize that not everything that happens in WG will be something we like but should put up with it in order for the clan to succeed. Morale is just so much higher when we get a good showing to an event, regardless of what it is. If we all do our best we will succeed. It's been like this for a while now but we never seem to be able to grasp it. Perhaps the time is now. -------------------- Now back to the good part! | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 05:49 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Kero2|bryan Group: Guest Posts: 1302 Member No.: 91 Joined: January 2, 2008 Total Events Attended: 26 | Alright i dont know why my window closed last time but w.e. I agree with it all iv seen. Tbh i dont know what to say atm. For the sake of the clan and the staff everyone just needs to take a break gain its trust again. Atm i think half the clan is moving at a differnt speed then the other. We need to regroup and move together because 50/50 we aren't going to get anywhere. As for the activity part, Uno people just need to prioritize and get free when events are planned weeks ahead -------------------- Best pure f2p Guardian  Post here http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...owtopic=20&st=0  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 05:49 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Matt|Multi Group: Emeritus Posts: 668 Member No.: 49 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 12 | Read and acknowledged. -------------------- Born at sea, baptized in blood your fame will never die. Your Division is one of the best if not the best division in the history of American arms -Gen George S Patton on the 45th Infantry Division  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 05:52 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Laura[Tyranu] Group: Ex-Member Posts: 292 Member No.: 1438 Joined: November 6, 2008 Total Events Attended: 4 | Read and understood and understandable --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 06:04 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Colin Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2039 Member No.: 68 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 69 | I actually think WG is improving and heading in the right direction. Except for all this council bullshit going on of course. That aside, we are definitely doing better in terms of overall activity, etc... But yeah. I actually recruited my friend IRL. I just gotta get him to post his intro ffs. He's such a lazy ass. Lol Btw, did you get Rachel's(and mine, lulz) money that I sent you? --------------------  Proud WG member from January 2006 - Fall 2009 | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 06:05 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: spanthrax Group: Ex-Member Posts: 813 Member No.: 29 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 37 | read and understood i can be better, i will be better, for i owe it to my clan mates and friends. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 06:11 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 | Colin I'm overseas right now, but I'll let you know when I return to Austrlia. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 06:15 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Kwaichi Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1827 Member No.: 65 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 119 | I believe the councils, i would rather leave the clan as distrust them, they are the head of the clan. Am i really stup-up ? .... And activity ? Honestly, i try really attend every event i cant even though i sometime fail  I never attend the event just because of free attendance point, but because of doing something together with friends.I really have no idea how to persuade other guardians to attend events, Lordy + councils & few other memebers have tried everything possible and also impossible to improve attendace, so i think there is nothing left. In my opinoin inactivity is just because most of us are no more kids, who are sitting all the days at computers. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 08:12 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Maths Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1855 Member No.: 54 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 286 |
And I'm sticking up for myself + my pride. If only you viewed things from my side  Edit: Lol, you only read "certain" bits of evidence. Certain bits of evidence that randy showed you lol? How about you come to me + ask what bugged me instead of just believing your council buddy all the time?  *sigh* --------------------  "Journeys are what brings us happiness, Not the destination." ~ Two time ex-raid leader of wg ~  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:01 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: rachellove Group: Council Posts: 6955 Member No.: 173 Joined: January 31, 2008 Total Events Attended: 305 | I did apologize for bringing it to the forum. --------------------  Thank you Garrett and Dallar. “The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.” ~~Colin Powell ~~  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:06 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gusmighster Group: Emeritus Posts: 1360 Member No.: 46 Joined: December 30, 2007 Total Events Attended: 67 | 100% agree with all of it. I just wish I could be enjoying RuneScape enough to be a strong contributor to WG. <.< --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:12 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Ubg Fcbruges Group: Emeritus Posts: 1209 Member No.: 1373 Joined: October 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 64 | Yes agreed. But the problem is the following: People that you're talking about don't check these posts :s --------------------  Portfolio ~~ WG Emeritus - 20 November 2010 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 10 November 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Emeritus - 2 July 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Higher Guardian - 27 February 2009 ~~ ~~ WG Guardian - 12 December 2008 ~~ ~~ WG Trial Guardian - 30 October 2008 ~~ | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:21 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: megajayson Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9246 Member No.: 423 Joined: April 4, 2008 Total Events Attended: 216 |
most members read a topic just because lordy's name is the one who posted it. good post lordy. --------------------  This is ten percent luck, twenty percent skill Fifteen percent concentrated power of will Five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain And a hundred percent reason to remember the name! 7th Highest Overall for Wars Attended. | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:25 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: {Rene} Group: Guest Posts: 838 Member No.: 267 Joined: February 25, 2008 Total Events Attended: 55 | I know I have acted arrogant in the past. Please do not only point the fingers at Members (althought I do agree this is a large part of the problem) but have a look at the leadership team as well (Yourself, council and tertiaries). I have also sent you a pm regarding this issue. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:28 am | |||||
| IRC Nickname: Flippie||Afk Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1708 Member No.: 55 Joined: December 31, 2007 Total Events Attended: 0 | Yea, in the Council elections post, some people showed their true faces. And I must say, I'm Dissapointed in a lot of them. -------------------- http://www.myspace.com/ZitherBand Support my Friends!  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:43 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Gorgemaster Group: Elite Guardian Posts: 9840 Member No.: 3 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 540 | Hear hear
^That's brilliant , I love it! --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 10:58 am | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Jesseh Group: Guest Posts: 2670 Member No.: 297 Joined: March 8, 2008 Total Events Attended: 222 | I agree, it's a shame WG is getting like this. Hopefully we'll pull out of it. I recruited a frand --------------------   17/6/08--> 12/9/08--> 29/11/08--> 5/1/09--> 2/3/09(Left)--> 19/7/09(Rejoin)--> 2/8/09
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Posted: February 1, 2009 12:00 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Dilz Group: Banned Posts: 1403 Member No.: 973 Joined: June 23, 2008 Total Events Attended: 151 | I agree, the council do enough work without us constantly being on their backs. --------------------  LOLPNS  Perm banned. | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 12:02 pm | |||||
| IRC Nickname: His Lordship Group: Founder Posts: 6029 Member No.: 1 Joined: December 26, 2007 Total Events Attended: 129 |
I'm going to stick with Randy through it all. I know hi well and he'd have a bloody good reason to do that. Plus, a bit of tolerance on your part would be appreciated. His job is really stressful and you should put up with one or two snaps. He's a good person and there is no conceivable way for him to abuse you weithout reason. -------------------- | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 12:28 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Billy|Gilli Group: Ex-Member Posts: 1545 Member No.: 1451 Joined: November 9, 2008 Total Events Attended: 91 | I have pretty much no friends added in RS that are not WG, he ones i do are already in a clan or are not interesred in clans as i have akready asked them. I attend nearly every event i am online for, i missed 2 yesterday with good reason, 1 i couldnt do tears of guthix because i did it on friday without thinking, 2 i didnt attend the AC as i was training defence, and our war if far more important than acing another war. Im active nearly 24/7, i cant get much more active. I do have faith in the council, however i dont feel it was necissary (cant spell tbh) that some of them should sneakily try hint at who they wanted in order to get people to vote for them. Other than that tiny floor i dont see fault with the council --------------------    | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 01:27 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Darth Group: Ex-Member Posts: 4601 Member No.: 838 Joined: June 12, 2008 Total Events Attended: 558 |
That's my main problem. 90% of my friends list is already WG, and the few friends that are not WG, they're all under 100 combat, and play Runescape just for fun and wouldn't find interest in the clan. I honestly try to be as active as possible..I'm usually at every event if I'm online. --------------------  | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 01:38 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Havochaha Group: Ex-Member Posts: 2257 Member No.: 106 Joined: January 5, 2008 Total Events Attended: 113 | this sounds like my rant but less profanity and more words -------------------- Havochaha Perm Banned Oct 1st 2009 Havochaha Unbanned February 13th 2011  http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Omar+Dandan How to Make 10m an Hour | ||||
Posted: February 1, 2009 01:42 pm | |||||
 IRC Nickname: Rage|Mike Group: Clan Friend Posts: 1948 Member No.: 1238 Joined: July 29, 2008 Total Events Attended: 132 | I have to say I expected this post to be made after recent events. Well said. --------------------  MSN: [email protected] IRC: Rage|Mike at SwiftIRC and SeersIRC Drop me a comment, click to view my RSC profile! Proud to be ex-Wilderness Guardian. | ||||
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