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 Over Clock my laptop GPU?, lol
Posted: February 4, 2009 04:19 amTop
   
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Just a thought I had when I saw that I could do that through some nVidia utility. I'm not sure how much to overclock it or if I should at all. Heat is the key that limits me.
 
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Posted: February 4, 2009 09:48 amTop
   
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How thick/thin is your laptop.

I would personally recommend against OCing a laptop because of the heat issue. Unless you have another application that allows you to control fan speeds or something.
 
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Posted: February 4, 2009 05:38 pmTop
   
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Its about an inch thick. Unfortunately I can't control the fan...well i haven't found a way to control that yet. It's hidden somewhere in the BIOS I'm sure. Haven't actually opened up my laptop to take a look at the guts of it yet. I'm curious to see if nVidia put a fan on the 8600M gpu or not. Or where they actually put the thing because I have my VGA port on the opposite side of where the CPU would normally be.

I ran the itunes visualizer thing last night for a good half hour just to see what temperatures the gpu would get to under some stress. It seemed to hover to in the mid to high 60's in celsius... So 150 Fahrenheit?
 
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Posted: February 4, 2009 05:51 pmTop
   
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if I OC'd mine any more than it is with my teeny little Radeon 1400x my laptop would burst into flames. I've seriously had burn marks on my fingers from keeping them on the keyboard for an extended period of time lol.
 
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Posted: February 4, 2009 08:31 pmTop
   
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Get a cooler mat.

Something like this(took first link so sue me)- http://www.targus.com/us/product_Details.asp?SKU=pa248u
 
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QUOTE (Georgio9 @ February 04, 2009 05:38 pm)
Its about an inch thick. Unfortunately I can't control the fan...well i haven't found a way to control that yet. It's hidden somewhere in the BIOS I'm sure. Haven't actually opened up my laptop to take a look at the guts of it yet. I'm curious to see if nVidia put a fan on the 8600M gpu or not. Or where they actually put the thing because I have my VGA port on the opposite side of where the CPU would normally be.

I ran the itunes visualizer thing last night for a good half hour just to see what temperatures the gpu would get to under some stress. It seemed to hover to in the mid to high 60's in celsius... So 150 Fahrenheit?

You could control your fans with a program called "SpeedFan". I used it when I first got my computer to control the fans. It tells you the temperature and the fan RPM (i think its the RPM) and it allows u to control the speed as well.

http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 02:49 amTop
   
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If it's running at 60 degrees Celsius not OCed but under stress, I wouldn't OC it. You'd still end up stressing out just as much so it would just get hotter. It could damage other components and even burn you.

Not worth the risk in my opinion.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 03:12 amTop
   
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What is OCing and what is the point? ohmy.gif
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 03:57 amTop
   
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QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ February 05, 2009 03:12 am)
What is OCing and what is the point? ohmy.gif

Ok so pretty much every digital device runs on something called a clock. Basically it controls how fast computer processes are dealt with. It generates what's called a logic high every set number of times per second. Processes can only be carried out on these logic high or clock cycle. It takes a certain number of these clock cycles to complete a process, depending on how the memory is addressed, the number of bytes, etc.

Generally the greater the clock speed, the faster the processor is. So when you see 2.0 GHz dual core intel processor, it means that each core of the processor is running at 2 BILLION clock cycles per second. So the hope is by overclocking, you can squeeze out a little more power from the processor or graphics card or whatever.

What limits the clock speed is how fast the transistors that make up the logic circuits inside a computer processor can switch between a logic high or low, or how fast memory can be retrieved. Since processes can only be carried out at a specific point in the clock cycle, you can run into trouble if you're information is not fully retrieved or fully transmitted but you're clock is already in the next cycle.

This leads to invalid computations and causes the processor to become unstable because part of your command has been cut off from the rest of it. This is the danger of making a processor run at speeds greater than what it is intended for.

What limits how fast data becomes available to a processor is basically down to the wire itself. An electric signal can only travel so fast through copper. So companies are trying to fix this problem by placing transistors as close as they can together. I think Intel is at like 45nm right now. Another solution, a more permanent one also is to move away from electricity and into optical components. This would also eliminate things like cross-talk, signal reflections and a whole bunch of other stuff I don't want to get into but I will if you're really that curious.

Most processors can actually withstand overclocking to some degree. AMD actually releases processors that come overclocked out of the box.

Another danger of overclock (my problem) is the amount of abnormal heat that's generated by the device. Generally overclocking a device reduces its lifetime because of the heat damage unless you can get rid of it.

SO, in a nutshell that's a lesson in computer architecture and electronics for you right there.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 06:37 amTop
   
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Georgio, I am impressed. That's actually a very good explanation of a kind of complex subject.


 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 10:23 pmTop
   
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Thanks Robbie, I have to take a computer architecture class as part of electrical engineering to go along with the other electronics and electro-magnetics courses. Architecture is kind of interesting but machine code is really annoying to deal with.
 
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Posted: February 5, 2009 10:53 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Georgio9 @ February 05, 2009 10:23 pm)
Thanks Robbie, I have to take a computer architecture class as part of electrical engineering to go along with the other electronics and electro-magnetics courses. Architecture is kind of interesting but machine code is really annoying to deal with.

/georgiopedia
 
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