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 Rick Hamm
Posted: February 6, 2009 08:18 pmTop
   
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This topic provides discussion for the recent removal of Rick Hamm from the community.

Information of his removal can be found here.

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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:19 pmTop
   
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:27 pmTop
   
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Ah <.<
Lots of BS will arise now, oh well, I suppose that's what happens eventually.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:29 pmTop
   
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Interesting.

I'm proud of you Mugger.
You just became my hero.



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Maybe not me. But Mugger can.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:29 pmTop
   
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Aww i was ok with him, we were kwl sad.gif

But i guess its for the best.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:34 pmTop
   


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Oh my.

I guess he did deserve his warns though so I guess there is no way escaping it.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:38 pmTop
   
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I cannot recall how many of these topics I have read and responded too. wacko.gif
 
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*Proud* Former leader of the Wilderness Guardians
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^Not Reticked's idea, mine tbh (FOR REAL NO JOKE OMG)^

Posted: February 6, 2009 08:38 pmTop
   
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He knew what was coming. Really, it was inevitable, we were practically preparing for the worst when his suspension was nearly over.
 
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"It is our direction, not our intentions, that lead us to our destinations."

Posted: February 6, 2009 08:39 pmTop
   


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No comment
just post count
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:45 pmTop
   
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Thank you Mugger. Not that I wanted to see Rick banned, but there have been too many times in the past that I have seen people overlook Rick flaming and flame baiting. He needs to know he cannot get away with abusing members any longer.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:46 pmTop
   
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Ffs Rick >.<
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:49 pmTop
   


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Not successful troll is not successful
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:51 pmTop
   
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Lols.
 
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Perm banned.

Posted: February 6, 2009 08:58 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ February 07, 2009 06:49 am)
Not successful troll is not successful

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Not the destination."

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Posted: February 6, 2009 08:59 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Back to Own @ February 06, 2009 08:38 pm)
He knew what was coming. Really, it was inevitable, we were practically preparing for the worst when his suspension was nearly over.

Practically? hash.png

Anyway, may as well post my opinion on the matter:

I for one feel it's a shame that despite the very many chances I personally, and the rest of the staff gave him to stop flaming, he chose not to, and instead said he was to 'cripple the clan' and have people 'mass walking out' - Explaining to us how his favour in WG was so great that he could ruin wg with the click of his fingers :|

I personally do not 'roll over' to threats. If someone breaks the rules, I will do my duty so long as I am a member of staff in this clan. Threats do not bode well with me.

I personally was hoping Rick would have decided to remain calm, and for time, I thought he was going to, until I was leaked this from a conversation with Rick and another member:
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(19:17:44) <Rick_Hamm> Until I get my warn level down, I'll be alright but once it's down...he's mine.   I guarantee you that I will make him quit.


At that point, I realised that Rick would do his best to try to hinder WG's vast improvements we've made over past months, and cleared the tertiaries to take action should Rick break rules. I did indeed make it clear to take appropriate action - and not jump the gun, and in this instance, I can assure you discussion was given to result in this course of action.

This will more than likely make several members upset, and I am truely sorry for this. Though, in all honesty, as pointed out above by other members, he has deserved all five of his warn levels, and rules are rules, and he is to be removed. Rick has nobody to blame but himself.

Even running up to the 'final straw', he was verbally warned very often not to over-step the line, and that he is not 'God' in this clan.

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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:01 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Eregion2 @ February 06, 2009 03:19 pm)
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ja dat
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:01 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Zlatan83 @ February 06, 2009 08:29 pm)
Interesting.

I'm proud of you Mugger.
You just became my hero.



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Maybe not me. But Mugger can.

why do you still stalk us? o.0

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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:02 pmTop
   
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LOL, Rick Hamm.
 
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W I N N I N G

Posted: February 6, 2009 09:03 pmTop
   
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Good job, his flame was too much.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:10 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Twizlers300 @ February 06, 2009 08:38 pm)
I cannot recall how many of these topics I have read and responded too. wacko.gif

Lmao. Yeah, well said Twiz.

I agree with Rick being banned, I was kind of in an "Okay" position when he joined the clan again, then when he made a lot of flames, and everyone just fuelled his ego, there was no end to his consistent flaming towards members of the current staff. I just don't think he was comfortable with himself being a non-leading position in Wg & seeing other new members in a leading position of Wg.

Well deserved. Good move Council/Tertiary.

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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:19 pmTop
   
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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:22 pmTop
   
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Beef.



That's disappointing..
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 09:27 pmTop
   
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I've read too many of these topics.
 
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Now back to the good part!

Posted: February 6, 2009 09:32 pmTop
   


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The thing with Rick was that he was always swaying back and forth. One day he's loyal to the clan, next he wants to start The Revolution. He'll be back later.
 
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Posted: February 6, 2009 10:54 pmTop
   
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QUOTE (Davza108 @ February 06, 2009 09:32 pm)
The thing with Rick was that he was always swaying back and forth. One day he's loyal to the clan, next he wants to start The Revolution. He'll be back later.

No he won't.
He's permanently banned... veryevilgrin.gif
 
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