Anti VR Alliance

Weeeeee woooooo don't go 'WTF' on me before you read all my post.

VR as some of you may know have always been crashing fights, but now they started to do it more frequently after their #1 rank and have turned into a fully NH clan that focuses on crashing mid ranked clans such as ourselves.

Our fight was crashed yesterday + three other fights all at the same time (Exodus vs THE? + Exer vs CR + Coll vs NG), probably even more.

Top clans will probably be doing nothing about it because VR were smart enough to leave them alone, and top clans won't risk helping mid ranked clans and get their fights crashed.

So what I'm suggesting may sound stupid but trust me, it's totally worth a shot: An Anti VR Alliance.

Almost all clans hate VR, so I can easily see Collision + Exodus + Exercitum join us and few other clans such as CR and TR maybe.

What this alliance will do is the following:

• Anti crash for clans whenever VR is out, especially clans involved in the alliance.
• Use welfare to combat VR's welfare
• Employ the use of spies on VR and acquiring their PK times and hitting them in every PK making them lose members and time
• Avoid pking any non VR.

These tactics are NH, make no mistake about it. But honestly, it's the only way possible right now because VR IS NH, so we combat them with their very own tactics. It'll make the clan world interesting and alive once more, and it'll prove that we just refuse to stand around watching VR.

And we'll actually be protecting the innocent, tbh.

Feedback please

Basically what we did to RoT back in the old days 1 iteming ftw k?

problem would be you'd have to solve all the individual feuds between the smaller clans first. otherwise on these alliance trips, youd have mass chaos

BROOO, count me in.

ja ok kl.

Keep up with the posting, sleep time.

WG does not engage in NH tactics, we did 1 item against RoT/NI but that makes them happy, drawing attention to them and giving them a fight.

Even the clans you mentioned together might not be able to handle VR due to coordination etc. Along with this this is exactly what VR wants, is a fight.

Spying and hitting them on PKs, assuming you can get all the clans coordinated, they would be quite happy to have a fight.

WL vs someone was also crashed.

VR is gay, when clans get crashed by them, they should just walk out of wildy and give them minimal acknowledgement.

Since when is VR #1? they suck XD

WTF

The only problem is the goal is to fight VR. Fighting VR is the problem. They just have numbers and go all day...They'd love this new challenge.

I think for now we just wait until they settle down and someone steps up and beats them. They really need to lose something. Once they do, people won't be so happy to be there. Their ml doubled over two months. That ml can shrink just as fast.

As it is, we already struggle with pking, etc. It sounds nice on paper, but we pull 40% to 5 day prep PVP Planned fights. Good luck pulling to do no honor one item trips with other clans, etc.

I think we will meet them on megaraid; then we will see...

Ya it sounds cool to come together and take out VR. It isn't possible though and it is against our policy.

I'm all for it, minus the spying. While it may not be attainable, ideally we should go for it.

Pointless.
All we'd be doing is giving VR a fight.

1. We're not going to stoop to their level.

2. We would still lose even with 10 clans with us. VR has over 200 members, supreme organization, zillions of sets and the willpower to return to a fight until the end of time. They just won't stop. They'll actually ENJOY this new challenge.

we did this with rot back in the day. it doesnt work.

we just have to put up with it.

I like the sound of this idea.

Anyway like some people already said, this is what VR really wants. They'd wreck us easily because of their organization and their banks; 8 clans would be so difficult to control.

Wish we cud do something else cus actually, this is what they want.

They are constantly crashing because people won't fight them. You give them a new challenge and their members will orgasm and do anything they can to turn up, and cream us.

It will also give them an even better excuse to crash our fights. If this was to happen, I doubt I'd want to be involved.

In my opinion, we should just stay out of the whole thing.
Getting involved = we can never expect an uncrashed fight EVER again. Also VR could try to hack our forums in retaliation.
I know it is virtually impossible for amateur shits like VR to hack Robbie and his security system... but yah don't give them the option.

Glenn said the smart thing, although I think we should continue raising our standards to one day be able to hold off against them.

I would hate to stoop to their level......a famous quote:
"once honor is lost, it cannot be restored" seems appropriate here.

You have to sink in your morals to beat those without.

However, we know how allied trips started
Mass chaos, beaten by clans half of our opts

We arent strong enough to beat VR, even with the help of other clans

They want action, and we'd just be giving them it.

The same thing with the TT situation. By helping them, we would put ourselves at risk and endanger our own growth.

Until a stronger clan takes action, theres nothing we can do. We hurt ourselves to hurt them, and they can take more hurting then we can.

HAI VR SPY

Vr feeds off your hate.
More attention the more they hate.

If u just ignore and leave wild lose 1 or 2 rune sets and dont give them any fights, then eventually they will get tired and give.

But if u wanna fight them headstrong with an alliance have fun cause they are just going to enjoy it

Being mature enough to just walk away is a better plan. Seems like most of our members with more experience know this. Listen to them.

There's a huge topic about this VR situation in the UNC on RSC. I'm sure whatever outcome comes from the UNC's decision we'll likely take - whether that's mass allying as far as fighting VR is concerned or w/e

~Mugger84

Get RoT to fight VR.

WG is not a no honor clan. We should not decend to their level. Ignore them.