About Joe

By His Lordship on 31/03/2009

He's really pissing me off.

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Just a notice before you start reading, copying or reverse engineering this process without my explicit permission is a violation of copyright laws. If I find this anywhere else I will have the offending parties prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, this shouldn't be a problem since this information should not be known by anyone guardian+ no trials, no ex-members, no emeritus, (unless they can read this) no lovers, no wives, no husbands, no children, no family, no friends, in a word Guardian+

What a bullshit way to open your topic.
To me it sort of cancels out the positive effect of your hard work.
You obviously gave something that took a lot of time.
This is exactly the sort of attitude that has to go.
Selfish crap. Act a little more like a member or a family.
Make it about US, not ME.

I would have got the message much better if you simply said "Please do not copy or reverse engineer my hard work. I don't like it"... and that would have had the same effect.

You don't see me telling members my work is bloody copyrighted. Even WG.com is not copyrighted. It's just the rudest thing. We're not a fucking corporation. We're family. If you're going to post that shit, you'd better tell me you copyright all your high school essays too.

In future instances, I will exercise the authority to punish it on the grounds of degrading the community. It's a total insult to this community.

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I find your decision to unban Mugger selfish. He broke the rules and YOU not US made the decision to unban him. You even admit it was a corrupt decision to do it yet you do it anyway, seems awful selfish to me also.

And he's got zero trust in me. He refuses to believe I have appropriate evidence against Mager, meaning no faith in my leadership. Leading him is a real pain.

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EDIT: Continued

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That does not make your level 1 topic any less bullshit. So stop being a kid who tries to justify his crime by pointing his finger at something else.

Doesn't make what you did any less bullshit either.

I'm the leader. Treat me with some damn respect because you bloody well know I've worked for it. You're turning the tables again. I'm turning them right back at you. Stop thinking about this clan as a corporation or society. We're a damn family before anything else. And that's the only reason I don't "fire" you. As a family we work out these problems. But you're attitude is really starting to shit me. You're walking on thin ice. I mean it. I don't deserve this bullshit from you. I'm pulling rank and putting my foot down. If you keep up this attitude, punishments will be handed out.

By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 31/03/2009

I learned something today. We can't play god. Human beings don't naturally trust. Neither will Joe. We have the shit job. We know things that everyone can't know, but we have to act on these things in the benefit of the clan. Often its going to make us shit, but it doesn't matter because we really are making things better. Joe is a pessimist. (Don't take this the wrong way) In real life, I am too a lot of the time. He voices his opinion when he sees something he doesn't like. To be honest, I like it more than him hiding all his feelings and emotions.
It was against what you said originally about never unbanning someone. However, who gives a fuck about pride. It was a win, win decision. I'd rather we got the spy and gave Mugger access than refuse to give Mugger access and still have Zlat riding our cocks. Joe doesn't know the full story because he can't. I think you're going to have to live with his judgment. You can explain as best you can. Hell, I can help too, but at the end of the day, he's most likely going to suspect things. He has a right to anyways.

By His Lordship on 31/03/2009

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I've been leading long enough to know that. I've been leading long enough to also know something else. The council and myself have done CLEAR amounts of selfless work and accumulated months if not years of trust. I also know that 95% of members don't have the same issues as Joe, whether or not they are pessimists. The leaders deserve respect and any members taking a dump on them are going to get their asses handed to them. We deserve better than this.

By DZ on 31/03/2009

He's not afraid to voice his opinion... he just needs to do it in more productive ways. It's never "I think that we/you should..." it's "why the hell would we/you..."

I don't want to see him leaving WG however, perhaps a talk with him will help. I'll try.

(studying for bio all night sorry if my post doesn't seem insightful)

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