New Raid Idea

Ok I was thinking how we always seem to have people in irc during raids but have a low turn out. A more flexible kind of system could be used. Instead of having set times and dates for raids we can have a channel. This channel can be #wgwilderness for instance. Anyone that wants to raid can hang out in there, talk with people and organize a group into the wilderness.

Of course your thinking well Vephy don't you need a raid leader to set up raids? In a way you are right. We do need people who have experience and leadership qualities and I'm sure raid leaders would be willing to join fairly often in organizing as well. However this could give a great chance for members to learn what it is like to be in a leadership position. It would facilitate and create future raid leaders and better fighters overall. In the process it would create more community within the pking events that we have.

This loose more flexible structure will help get the interest back into pvp and draw the community closer together.

What do you think of this idea?


ANYONE THAT WANTS TO JOIN

#wgwilderness

I like your thinking assuming these people actually raid once and a while.

I support the all mighty Vephyrus.

I fink I should also lead raids if no other leaders are available lol.

Well it's not like your going to constaly pull 20 people to raid.
In the channel will be at most 10 people that actually want to raid.

So instead of pulling 10 people of out the 20 people in irc.

You will pull the 10 people that actually want to come.

I see no difference.

When we do have spur of the moment raids. We end up running into PH/Terminal and our 1 leader dies.

Eventually a normal member needs to take lead, which happens but that member has experience so its okay.

What you say is already being done, just not as much as it seems like you want to.

Agreed. I think to be negative and assume we will never grow raids doesn't help. I also think what we're doing now definitely isn't working, so we may as well try something else, and what Vephy is suggesting couldn't possibly do any harm so why not try it.

If we start doing something like this, combined with good recruitment we could have some good raids going after awhile.

I had never said i disagreed, it's a thought. I'm just expressing my opinion to the post. And in the end, it isn't my word that hammers down what will and will not happen.

Dude Saad...
What's with the negativity?
A member voices a suggestion and a leader shoots it down right away?

This won't pull numbers. MEGARAIDS WORKED GREAT WHY'D WE SCRAP EM@@@@@@@@@@@

It's an idea, but you are likely to get less people to these raids, than we already get to our current fixed raids.
That's the truth of it... fixed times mean people get into a routine and remember to come each week.

Our p2p raid went well actually. So first raid with the idea was a success.

I love your idea Vephy. I actually enjoy the more casual raids cause I don't feel so much pressure and can actually learn.

My disagreement only comes from the channel choice to use. You could start another war/raid channel cause that one is mostly for members and you will want to be open to people who sit in the lobby or friends. If you want a channel made, I would be willing to set that up. PM me about it. I kept the notes from when I set up my own channel on irc.

Good Luck. I will stop by to raid once in a while as well.

Rachy

I think it'd be better to have fixed raids, but also a system for pick-up raids that would still count as full attendance. That way there's a structured schedule but still room for maneuverability.

Anybody that supports this idea or wants to be a part of it, or just if you suddenly have an urge to raid, then please join #wgwilderness when you're on the irc, and if enough people are on and somebody is willing to lead, we will host short-prep raid.

We already tried this once last night and it went great! A few kills including almost a guy in ahrims. Glenn has already said he supports the idea and led the raid, and it was a great job.

Anyone interested in these short-prep raids just hang out in #wgwilderness when you get that sudden need to raid.




Eregion my rebuttle is that fixed raids are good once in awhile, but many people have scheduling problems, or just plain forget there is a raid. If it's a fixed raid and nobody shows up, then basically we're screwed and have to skip the raid. This way you can join and feel free to raid anytime, and if there's enough people there then we raid. That way we always have enough opts or at least people who WANT to raid, not just people who show up because they feel they have to.

If raids are failing with a schedule, they'll die immediately without one. You'll end up with a handful of people who show up and the whole rest of the clan will be like "well uh... it was unscheduled, didn't know we were having it."

Just my .02, I'm on the non-warring list so it doesn't effect me either way, but it'll effect the clan.

Fair enough point.

I just think the raids now aren't doing very well obviously, so we may as well try something new eh.

I resurrect thee.
#wgwilderness for making raids

holy FAP!
I just thought of an even better Idea.
Yes, I like this Veph.
But...

What if we make it so that the IRC Channel is #PAlliedRaid. (P standing for potential.) That way our allies and everything will be allowed into the channel which makes it even more likely that we can pull enough people for a successful raid. And we will most likely always have a leader as well..

And the PAlliedRaid channel will only be till we get enough members, and then when the time for the raid is here we can hop to a legitimate IRC channel.

DISCUSS

I talked with Vampy about it a bit before, he liked the idea.

If we were all in one channel (TDM + WG + TBE + ZT) I think we could easily pull 40-50 to short prep raids.

WE could even get RDK involved because they p2p pk ALL THE TIME and TBE is allies with them.