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By spanthrax on 28/04/2009
ya finally pushed me out here. im sick of being shit on by my clan mates. never thought the leaders would shit on me but aside from gorge 
you have all shit on me and made me feel like i wasnt welcome. not very leader like.
im not gonna go into a long good bye because truth be told nobody would read it anyway so why should i take the time to write one. those of you who i AM friends with, you know who you are and i wont do any shout outs.
guess thats all there is to say. i would like clan friend or i believe at the very least i deserve ex-member rank.
you have all shit on me and made me feel like i wasnt welcome. not very leader like. im not gonna go into a long good bye because truth be told nobody would read it anyway so why should i take the time to write one. those of you who i AM friends with, you know who you are and i wont do any shout outs.
guess thats all there is to say. i would like clan friend or i believe at the very least i deserve ex-member rank.
By Randy on 28/04/2009
Absolutely no idea what you're talking about
By Quikdrawjoe on 28/04/2009
*plays Taps*
By Back to Own on 28/04/2009
One of the worst things a leader has to deal with is watch everything they've worked for crumble in front of them. Our numbers have weakened, our organization skills have gotten rusty, but most importantly, we've lost many of our greatest friends along the way. We're dealing with a terrible crisis. Its going to take all of our determination, will, and cooperation to pull out of this.
And now, during a period where the survival of WG itself is on the line, we are plagued by people who are inactive. Some are too busy with life. Thats alright. But in a time when a clan needs it's people at most, you would leave it to die. You would leave your friends and clanmates to struggle themselves so we could have a clan for you.
Im going to be honest here. You don't care about WG. You don't give a crap about us. All I've seen you do is sit in the IRC, and huggle every female that enters. Do you honestly wonder why you get crap? Its not the leaders only; people notice. The only person you have to blame is yourself.
This is what I see. I see a undedicated rs-active member that doesnt contribute. I see someone who has the ability to do much more, but doesn't. Don't blame the people who fight hard everyday to keep this clan alive.
You're a great person and I truly wish things could have ended differently.
And now, during a period where the survival of WG itself is on the line, we are plagued by people who are inactive. Some are too busy with life. Thats alright. But in a time when a clan needs it's people at most, you would leave it to die. You would leave your friends and clanmates to struggle themselves so we could have a clan for you.
Im going to be honest here. You don't care about WG. You don't give a crap about us. All I've seen you do is sit in the IRC, and huggle every female that enters. Do you honestly wonder why you get crap? Its not the leaders only; people notice. The only person you have to blame is yourself.
This is what I see. I see a undedicated rs-active member that doesnt contribute. I see someone who has the ability to do much more, but doesn't. Don't blame the people who fight hard everyday to keep this clan alive.
You're a great person and I truly wish things could have ended differently.
| QUOTE (spanthrax @ April 22, 2009 10:37 am) |
| personally as a non-warrer i get shit on by a lot of individuals, they state that i never go to non-pvp events. this is due to our event leaders holding events at midday when im away at my job irl. and i would gladly come if they were after 5 pm eastern on mon-thurs. but most events simply aren't that late so i cannot attend and ppl ridicule me for it and call me a leach. so i say have more events towards evening est and ill show you vastly improved activity. im doing the best i can here and i would appreciate more respect from my fellow clan mates than i am currently recieving. |
By T Dwag on 28/04/2009
Idk what's going on but I've always found you very pleasant, friendly, and negotiable Spenser. I'm sorry you've felt like you've been treated poorly and I wish you the best, even though I hope you decide not to leave. Good luck bud you were a good member.
Brandon
Brandon
By Tmal34 on 28/04/2009
BTO I disagree.
I don't get why we have a non-warring list if people such as you or other leaders are going to hold those individuals to standards they didn't agree on.
You all but said flat out in your post that WG needs Spenser to be at wars and PKs right now, but since he doesn't come, he doesn't care about the clan. Well that's bullshit. We have a non warring list, it is an option for the clan. If he has signed up for it, then he should not be criticized for not attending.
Every single fight I've been in IRC for I have seen someone ask Spenser if he is going to war. He shouldn't even have to deal with those questions. He took an option the council offered and that should be the end of the freaking story.
But it's not. People here have double standards.
If you are going to hold not warring against non-warrers, then the list needs to go away.
I don't get why we have a non-warring list if people such as you or other leaders are going to hold those individuals to standards they didn't agree on.
You all but said flat out in your post that WG needs Spenser to be at wars and PKs right now, but since he doesn't come, he doesn't care about the clan. Well that's bullshit. We have a non warring list, it is an option for the clan. If he has signed up for it, then he should not be criticized for not attending.
Every single fight I've been in IRC for I have seen someone ask Spenser if he is going to war. He shouldn't even have to deal with those questions. He took an option the council offered and that should be the end of the freaking story.
But it's not. People here have double standards.
If you are going to hold not warring against non-warrers, then the list needs to go away.
By Quikdrawjoe on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Tmal34 @ April 28, 2009 01:30 am) |
| BTO I disagree. I don't get why we have a non-warring list if people such as you or other leaders are going to hold those individuals to standards they didn't agree on. You all but said flat out in your post that WG needs Spenser to be at wars and PKs right now, but since he doesn't come, he doesn't care about the clan. Well that's bullshit. We have a non warring list, it is an option for the clan. If he has signed up for it, then he should not be criticized for not attending. Every single fight I've been in IRC for I have seen someone ask Spenser if he is going to war. He shouldn't even have to deal with those questions. He took an option the council offered and that should be the end of the freaking story. But it's not. People here have double standards. If you are going to hold not warring against non-warrers, then the list needs to go away. |
He hardly attends events either even when he is online. I agree with BTO, also a shit attitude of everyone is pissing on me tends to reap exactly what you sow.
By spanthrax on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Back to Own @ April 27, 2009 07:01 pm) | ||
| One of the worst things a leader has to deal with is watch everything they've worked for crumble in front of them. Our numbers have weakened, our organization skills have gotten rusty, but most importantly, we've lost many of our greatest friends along the way. We're dealing with a terrible crisis. Its going to take all of our determination, will, and cooperation to pull out of this. And now, during a period where the survival of WG itself is on the line, we are plagued by people who are inactive. Some are too busy with life. Thats alright. But in a time when a clan needs it's people at most, you would leave it to die. You would leave your friends and clanmates to struggle themselves so we could have a clan for you. Im going to be honest here. You don't care about WG. You don't give a crap about us. All I've seen you do is sit in the IRC, and huggle every female that enters. Do you honestly wonder why you get crap? Its not the leaders only; people notice. The only person you have to blame is yourself. This is what I see. I see a undedicated rs-active member that doesnt contribute. I see someone who has the ability to do much more, but doesn't. Don't blame the people who fight hard everyday to keep this clan alive. You're a great person and I truly wish things could have ended differently.
|
even you kevin should be smart enough to realize that treating someone like shit isnt how you get them to try harder and help out more. you leaders are the one's who gave ppl the option of non-war list. so in a way its kind of your fault, without the option of the non-warring list i would have been forced to suck it up and war.
it seems to me that you only made the non-pvp list to save your own asses, so you could say hey there's this option whilst you just treat anyone on that list like absolute shit in the hopes that nobody would go onto this list.
all this being said i love wg, i just dont like what its become.
By Tmal34 on 28/04/2009
Joe he has the same problem I do.
EST events are for the most part at 1-5 pm EST. That seems to be the priority time so that GMT and EST can both attend. Well that's fine and it's good to have some events there, but Span has work, similar to how I have school. It's impossible to attend.
And I agree that a bad attitude does nothing to help the situation, and Spenser's attitude certainly hasn't always been great. But it's a two way street, something he acknowledges. It is bad that the council offers a non PVP list and then takes any sort of an attitude toward him about PVP. If I were in his shoes, I would probably be pissed as well.
It just leads to a slippery slope, regardless of who started it. One side reacts, leading to the other, and then the first, etc. Until the two sides are both discontent and dissatisfied. It is impossible to place the blame fully on either.
EST events are for the most part at 1-5 pm EST. That seems to be the priority time so that GMT and EST can both attend. Well that's fine and it's good to have some events there, but Span has work, similar to how I have school. It's impossible to attend.
And I agree that a bad attitude does nothing to help the situation, and Spenser's attitude certainly hasn't always been great. But it's a two way street, something he acknowledges. It is bad that the council offers a non PVP list and then takes any sort of an attitude toward him about PVP. If I were in his shoes, I would probably be pissed as well.
It just leads to a slippery slope, regardless of who started it. One side reacts, leading to the other, and then the first, etc. Until the two sides are both discontent and dissatisfied. It is impossible to place the blame fully on either.
By Big Al 002 on 28/04/2009
NOOO
By Back to Own on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (spanthrax @ April 27, 2009 08:37 pm) | ||||
even you kevin should be smart enough to realize that treating someone like shit isnt how you get them to try harder and help out more. you leaders are the one's who gave ppl the option of non-war list. so in a way its kind of your fault, without the option of the non-warring list i would have been forced to suck it up and war. it seems to me that you only made the non-pvp list to save your own asses, so you could say hey there's this option whilst you just treat anyone on that list like absolute shit in the hopes that nobody would go onto this list. all this being said i love wg, i just dont like what its become. |
Oh you're blaming me for you not trying hard enough? I'm sorry I didn't praise you and encourage to try harder.
| QUOTE |
| <%bto> spenser you coming? <+Spanthrax> to what <%bto> pkri <+Spanthrax> .... |
You can see in this convo yesterday that I asked at all without any hostility. You can clearly see how you reacted when I even SUGGESTED the idea. After all, even considering on calling on people not obligated for any wars during our time of need must be insanity.
I tried to be reasonable. I tried to be fair. I figured after reading your post in the IA, that you were trying to improve. The next day, I noticed active in #wg when an event was going on.
| QUOTE (spanthrax @ April 22, 2009 10:37 am) |
| they state that i never go to non-pvp events. this is due to our event leaders holding events at midday when im away at my job irl. and i would gladly come if they were after 5 pm eastern on mon-thurs |
Getting to your next point
When we were adding a new rank for this "nonwarring list," you instantly began to vent and complain that you were getting no respect. To keep you happy, we just left you to emeritus.
You were one of the primary reasons for the creation of the pvp list in the first place. Nobody else really fought for it. I think accusing us of making a pvp list to shit on people to make them active is pretty funny actually. ITS A CONSPIRACY.
I believe there are a total of 3 people on the non-warring list. You can ask any of the other 2. I have never been hostile towards them because they don't war. However, they contribute.
By DZ on 28/04/2009
It was good to get to know you Spence, I wish you the best.
By spanthrax on 28/04/2009
i agree i should have reacted differently when you asked me to war. that much i will agree upon.
your next point however im going to have to politely disagree. i was ok with a rank change, however i was not ok with the ones glenn was suggesting for the simple fact that they were cruel and derogatory towards the individuals on the non-pvp list.
as a matter of fact you should thank me. a member recently approached me asking if the non-pvp list was worth going on, i will not say whom this member was, but im sure my response will keep him from asking to join the list.
your next point however im going to have to politely disagree. i was ok with a rank change, however i was not ok with the ones glenn was suggesting for the simple fact that they were cruel and derogatory towards the individuals on the non-pvp list.
as a matter of fact you should thank me. a member recently approached me asking if the non-pvp list was worth going on, i will not say whom this member was, but im sure my response will keep him from asking to join the list.
By Quikdrawjoe on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Tmal34 @ April 28, 2009 01:44 am) |
| Joe he has the same problem I do. EST events are for the most part at 1-5 pm EST. That seems to be the priority time so that GMT and EST can both attend. Well that's fine and it's good to have some events there, but Span has work, similar to how I have school. It's impossible to attend. And I agree that a bad attitude does nothing to help the situation, and Spenser's attitude certainly hasn't always been great. But it's a two way street, something he acknowledges. It is bad that the council offers a non PVP list and then takes any sort of an attitude toward him about PVP. If I were in his shoes, I would probably be pissed as well. It just leads to a slippery slope, regardless of who started it. One side reacts, leading to the other, and then the first, etc. Until the two sides are both discontent and dissatisfied. It is impossible to place the blame fully on either. |
Had to know how active someone is when you're not all that active yourself. All I see from him are excuses or he goes AFK when an event is on. When you walk within a shit attitude (exhibit A: this leaving post) don't expect everyone to be all nice and friendly in return. The way this topic was posted was a blatant flame and disrespect, don't expect mine when the first words are out of your mouth is everyone is shitting on me.
By Buzzard1985 on 28/04/2009
<3 you Span, gl with what you do.
By Dorcha3377 on 28/04/2009
Hate to see you leave over something like this. Take care in all you do Spanny <3
By spanthrax on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ April 27, 2009 08:36 pm) | ||
Had to know how active someone is when you're not all that active yourself. All I see from him are excuses or he goes AFK when an event is on. When you walk within a shit attitude (exhibit A: this leaving post) don't expect everyone to be all nice and friendly in return. The way this topic was posted was a blatant flame and disrespect, don't expect mine when the first words are out of your mouth is everyone is shitting on me. |
i wasnt expecting your respect. ive not seen it shown towards me at any point of my entire association with wg. im through with all this fighting. i wish you guys the best of luck moving forward. it was clear to me that wg was no longer a good fit for me since the day that i came back to find out that the sectors were gone. i just had to stick around to try it and it hasnt worked out. so im going to leave, and hopefully not on terms so bad that i end up in the hall of shame.
By JC on 28/04/2009
Although it saddens me allot to see you leaving spenser it's also like a slap in the face to all those people who think of you as a friend every time you make a topic like this.
I hope you find somewhere that suits you spenser, do you think you'll join a skill/community clan or go clanless for a while?
I hope you find somewhere that suits you spenser, do you think you'll join a skill/community clan or go clanless for a while?
By Eregion2 on 28/04/2009
I don't know you very well Spenser but I've seen you around alot, and I'm very, very upset that things have escalated to this level. I hope you change your mind and decide to stay, but I agree something has got to change. 
For what it's worth I plan on putting quite a bit of time into WG after finals are over in two weeks, and hopefully others are in a similar position. I won't ask you to stay around because I'm certainly not in a position to promise anything, but I do hope you stay.
For what it's worth I plan on putting quite a bit of time into WG after finals are over in two weeks, and hopefully others are in a similar position. I won't ask you to stay around because I'm certainly not in a position to promise anything, but I do hope you stay.
| QUOTE (Eregion2) |
| People think as long as we're not screaming and bitching the hell out of each other then everything's fine, but it's not! The underlying cause is still here and it'll come up and cause trouble as hit has for years until it's settled once and for all, either by kicking out the skillers or giving them back a place in WG. |
*cough*
By WG_Aaron on 28/04/2009
Dont know what this is about.
But Bye.
But Bye.
By VEPHYSAURAS on 28/04/2009
Sorry to see you go Spense. I'm not quite sure why you have stuck out so long. Were you waiting for more skilling events around your time? We will be getting new council soon and may see some good changes. Sorry it had to end this way. Maybe I'll finally show you Tormented Demons later when were both in a good time frame.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
By Ragingwealth on 28/04/2009
Probably I'm not in a place to speak about inner WG, but I'll just say this anyway 
From what I read from Tmal, some people are having problems attending events because of school/work time conflicts, and in Spanthrax's case he doesn't like wars and still has work which gets him accused of being..well, undedicated.
That can easily be rectified, if you would please read on:
You could always make an IA, a mandatory one, and have people post the times they usually are able to make fights and events at (Such as the old post Randy made in the old warring forums). Get 1-2 events a week in odd times for members of his case and see if they attend or not, it should there dedication and activity.
If it still seems a problem, I recall you're able to host individual events in WG, try hosting on in a good time for yourself?
So to sum it up, stay, try to push for that IA and if it doesn't work then host your own events to prove to everyone you're dedicated.
From what I read from Tmal, some people are having problems attending events because of school/work time conflicts, and in Spanthrax's case he doesn't like wars and still has work which gets him accused of being..well, undedicated.
That can easily be rectified, if you would please read on:
You could always make an IA, a mandatory one, and have people post the times they usually are able to make fights and events at (Such as the old post Randy made in the old warring forums). Get 1-2 events a week in odd times for members of his case and see if they attend or not, it should there dedication and activity.
If it still seems a problem, I recall you're able to host individual events in WG, try hosting on in a good time for yourself?
So to sum it up, stay, try to push for that IA and if it doesn't work then host your own events to prove to everyone you're dedicated.
By Samurai-JM on 28/04/2009
a skilling sector where ppl don't have to war would fix that.
OH WAIT DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD
wouldn't work now anyway i guess, u guys don't have enough members anymore cuz they all quit cuz u wanted them to war lol.
OH WAIT DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD
wouldn't work now anyway i guess, u guys don't have enough members anymore cuz they all quit cuz u wanted them to war lol.
By WG_Aaron on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ April 28, 2009 06:59 am) |
| a skilling sector where ppl don't have to war would fix that. OH WAIT DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD wouldn't work now anyway i guess, u guys don't have enough members anymore cuz they all quit cuz u wanted them to war lol. |
Wrong.
Read the D-Day #2 leaving posts.
They left because there wasnt enough PvP.
By Samurai-JM on 28/04/2009
lul i cant see IA ur right tho I remember the dozens of ppl leaving for that, but u gotta admit since then and even before then there were people leaving because they were forced into fighting when they didnt want to.
i still miss the sectors tho wg was by far at its strongest point when they were up.
ur right tho I remember the dozens of ppl leaving for that, but u gotta admit since then and even before then there were people leaving because they were forced into fighting when they didnt want to.i still miss the sectors tho
wg was by far at its strongest point when they were up. By rachellove9 on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (School_Boy19 @ April 28, 2009 09:16 am) | ||
Wrong. Read the D-Day #2 leaving posts. They left because there wasnt enough PvP. |
Not entirely true at all. Steveypants and myself tried to get some kind of non-warring list going before all that happened to give a better ml for pvp stuff that was going on. I believe Muggers told me that things were fine the way they were. He didn't want a non war list. Then when the mass leaving came only like a day or two later he got on the leaving boat as well. Don't try to blame pvp. It had a lot to do with people who just didn't like that our member list didn't show our true numbers.
The amount of pvp wasn't as much of the problem as the number of people willing to go.
Sorry, this isn't the place to debate that anyway.
By Troll84 on 28/04/2009
Didn't think you'd leave WG again.
Stick around in #Mugger, Spenser
I know you will.
Stick around in #Mugger, Spenser
I know you will. By slayer123121 on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Tmal34 @ April 27, 2009 08:44 pm) |
| Joe he has the same problem I do. EST events are for the most part at 1-5 pm EST. That seems to be the priority time so that GMT and EST can both attend. Well that's fine and it's good to have some events there, but Span has work, similar to how I have school. It's impossible to attend. And I agree that a bad attitude does nothing to help the situation, and Spenser's attitude certainly hasn't always been great. But it's a two way street, something he acknowledges. It is bad that the council offers a non PVP list and then takes any sort of an attitude toward him about PVP. If I were in his shoes, I would probably be pissed as well. It just leads to a slippery slope, regardless of who started it. One side reacts, leading to the other, and then the first, etc. Until the two sides are both discontent and dissatisfied. It is impossible to place the blame fully on either. |
Thomas im really fed up of your whining, can you grow a set please?
Ya ya ya we heard the I can't do nothing cos it's Gmt time etc Bullshit 50 million times. I usually get on with you but lately all you do is moan that events are at a bad time for you.
Consider the aussies, Consider GMT they don't get raids at 1-5pm there time! they get them at 11pm at night brilliant.....
Stop thinking about yourself and think of the whole picture Wg trys to fit EVERYONE in which requires such things, You get a dam Est raid every week thats like 8pm, That's a brilliant time.
Bto was right with what he said.
At end of the day why join a clan if your going to skip events?
By Nick on 28/04/2009
If events are not at your time, then host them. That is all I have to say to those who are complaining that events are not when they *want* them to be. Hell, I know many events that are not when I *want* them to be. I still either find a way to make them or get over it.
Bye.
Bye.
By Eregion2 on 28/04/2009
| QUOTE (Slayer123121) |
| At end of the day why join a clan if your going to skip events? |
For the brilliant ass-kicking camaraderie.
By txtawkin on 28/04/2009
LOL at Wayne !!!! ^^^
You crack me up!!!
You crack me up!!!
By spanthrax on 29/04/2009
stay on topic or go make your own im sick of ppl going off topic. post about the thread title or dont even bother. thanks
By WG_Aaron on 29/04/2009
By spanthrax on 29/04/2009
| QUOTE (School_Boy19 @ April 28, 2009 09:55 pm) |
| |
lame ass comments like this carry nothing but disrespect and its shit like this that makes me leave. so gf to you. maybe some day you will mature and quit being such a dick. a member is leaving and all you can do is crack jokes, i mean grow the hell up already.
By WG_Aaron on 29/04/2009
| QUOTE (spanthrax @ April 28, 2009 09:05 pm) | ||
lame ass comments like this carry nothing but disrespect and its shit like this that makes me leave. so gf to you. maybe some day you will mature and quit being such a dick. a member is leaving and all you can do is crack jokes, i mean grow the hell up already. |
It was directed towards everyone in the drama.
Im sorry for having a sense of humor
By Jayson on 29/04/2009
cya spens, you did cop alot of crap btw.
By Lee on 29/04/2009
Laters spense. Im probably one of the only people, who never had some form of arguement with you. 
We always got on, and I like you to be honest. Stick around. 
We always got on, and I like you to be honest. Stick around. By dhboy123 on 29/04/2009
You have a non warring list? People dont attend wars even when they are on? What the fuck is this shit, Elias what have you done to this clan.
By Starzhine on 29/04/2009
I liked his hugs. .. . I will miss you.
By Noobcountry on 29/04/2009
Well Spense I guess we had our moments me and you when you'd say them not funny jokes and I'd reply lol .
Will miss you bro, and I hope everything works out for you
.Will miss you bro, and I hope everything works out for you
By Mr Death 13 on 30/04/2009
you're a nice guy and all but you sure do quit/rejoin a lot.
good luck wherever you go
good luck wherever you go
By Chimpy on 30/04/2009
| QUOTE (School_Boy19 @ April 28, 2009 11:19 pm) | ||||
It was directed towards everyone in the drama. Im sorry for having a sense of humor |
The game.
And by Spenser if I haven't said it already, guess you'll still be stuck with that lame ass "S" in the middle of your name, whilst I shall have the almighty "C", but good luck with whatever you do! Join a skilling clan or something, might be more your speed.
By Kiwi011 on 30/04/2009
love you spenser =)
By Pazenon on 30/04/2009
/surprised
By Quikdrawjoe on 30/04/2009
| QUOTE (dhboy123 @ April 29, 2009 11:25 am) |
| You have a non warring list? People dont attend wars even when they are on? What the fuck is this shit, Elias what have you done to this clan. |
You sir are epic.
By Winddancir on 01/05/2009
1. Aaron's post was funny, commenting on the general mood of the topic.
2. I pointed out when the non-warring list came out that any one on it would end up being counted as second class. Why do you think I didn't join it?
3. Even when events were happening during times that you were online, you didn't attend.
4. Cya.
2. I pointed out when the non-warring list came out that any one on it would end up being counted as second class. Why do you think I didn't join it?
3. Even when events were happening during times that you were online, you didn't attend.
4. Cya.
By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 01/05/2009
Spenser. We have been friends for a while. I guess things changed somewhere down the road. I think you took me doing my job as council and my friendship and confused them. I liked you as a person, but in no way was I going to let you keep doing what you were doing. You joined the nonwarring list. We promised that you wouldn't get harassment. We were wrong. It ended up being some huge dramatic thing and it sparked fights between everyone. I'm sorry for that I guess, though for your own good it would have been better just to war and fuck it.
You claim that there were no events that you could attend. Bullshit. I'm calling you on your lie. Remember that Stealing Creations event? You spat in my face and threw a hissy fit. You cussed me out because I was making you attend an event that you had signed up for. Why was I an asshole and persistent? I was being that way to prove that you were bullshitting us. You had JUST posted a big rant about how its unfair that you can't attend events because of your timezone. How come I see you ditch even non-pvp events all the time? It wasn't a one time thing and you know it.
I know you're going to hate me for bringing that all up, but I'd rather you hate me and know my thoughts on you than holding them back. I think you in the end did just want to talk to people on IRC. That's fine, that's what I do. However, you refused to give anything of your own. You literally just wanted to chill on IRC, you couldn't even go hang out with the people that you "cared about so much."
All these fights that were started by or against you involved you. It wasn't like you were out there being some angel kid and these bullies came after you.
You claim that there were no events that you could attend. Bullshit. I'm calling you on your lie. Remember that Stealing Creations event? You spat in my face and threw a hissy fit. You cussed me out because I was making you attend an event that you had signed up for. Why was I an asshole and persistent? I was being that way to prove that you were bullshitting us. You had JUST posted a big rant about how its unfair that you can't attend events because of your timezone. How come I see you ditch even non-pvp events all the time? It wasn't a one time thing and you know it.
I know you're going to hate me for bringing that all up, but I'd rather you hate me and know my thoughts on you than holding them back. I think you in the end did just want to talk to people on IRC. That's fine, that's what I do. However, you refused to give anything of your own. You literally just wanted to chill on IRC, you couldn't even go hang out with the people that you "cared about so much."
All these fights that were started by or against you involved you. It wasn't like you were out there being some angel kid and these bullies came after you.
By Big Al 002 on 01/05/2009
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i hold events @ like 8pm est every week tho
i hold events @ like 8pm est every week tho
By VEPHYSAURAS on 01/05/2009
Ya that is very true Glen. He has had numerous chances to attend events. He simply chose not to take responsibility for his actions and has blamed it on others. It isn't fair to others really. It is true Spense. I have no ill will toward you but those are the facts.
By Stokenut on 01/05/2009
Anyone seen "Knowing"?
I watched it the other night. The concept was fantastic but the ending wasn't all that great. The storyline could have been evolved so much more to play on the idea of "knowing" what's about to happen and pursuing to prevent it. The end of the world came far too fast and what's up with the aliens coming out of nowhere?
I did like the reference to Adam and Eve at the end of the film, where the children are dropped off on a new planet but it's still pretty pointless and ruined the film for me.
Nicolas Cage's performance was fantastic as usual but I, Robot still betters this film. Better luck next time Proyas.
Overall I give this film a 7 out of 10.
I watched it the other night. The concept was fantastic but the ending wasn't all that great. The storyline could have been evolved so much more to play on the idea of "knowing" what's about to happen and pursuing to prevent it. The end of the world came far too fast and what's up with the aliens coming out of nowhere?
I did like the reference to Adam and Eve at the end of the film, where the children are dropped off on a new planet but it's still pretty pointless and ruined the film for me.
Nicolas Cage's performance was fantastic as usual but I, Robot still betters this film. Better luck next time Proyas.
Overall I give this film a 7 out of 10.
By VEPHYSAURAS on 01/05/2009
| QUOTE (Stokenut @ May 01, 2009 02:42 am) |
| Anyone seen "Knowing"? I watched it the other night. The concept was fantastic but the ending wasn't all that great. The storyline could have been evolved so much more to play on the idea of "knowing" what's about to happen and pursuing to prevent it. The end of the world came far too fast and what's up with the aliens coming out of nowhere? I did like the reference to Adam and Eve at the end of the film, where the children are dropped off on a new planet but it's still pretty pointless and ruined the film for me. Nicolas Cage's performance was fantastic as usual but I, Robot still betters this film. Better luck next time Proyas. Overall I give this film a 7 out of 10. |
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By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 02/05/2009
Haha. I died laughing at what Stoke posted. Rofl.
By rachellove9 on 02/05/2009
| QUOTE (Stokenut @ May 01, 2009 02:42 am) |
| Anyone seen "Knowing"? I watched it the other night. The concept was fantastic but the ending wasn't all that great. The storyline could have been evolved so much more to play on the idea of "knowing" what's about to happen and pursuing to prevent it. The end of the world came far too fast and what's up with the aliens coming out of nowhere? I did like the reference to Adam and Eve at the end of the film, where the children are dropped off on a new planet but it's still pretty pointless and ruined the film for me. Nicolas Cage's performance was fantastic as usual but I, Robot still betters this film. Better luck next time Proyas. Overall I give this film a 7 out of 10. |
It was a bit disturbing for me when the blood splatted from the train wreck and I thought it was harsh to see people burning and on fire. It's rating was a lil to low. I was worried about nightmares.
lololol this is on a goodbye thread.
By God Reports on 03/05/2009
Goodbye. Make sure to shit on me, k?
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