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By Renegade3540 on 01/05/2009
1/0" is a paradox; in a way that "0/1" is not. Nothing can be divided by zero. If one approaches the formula from the positive side, it would appear that the answer is an infinite positive value. If one approaches the formula from the negative side, the opposite is true. Thus, anything divided by zero is simultaneously positive and negative infinity. "One over Zero" is a paradox in another way too, in a way that transcends mere arithmetic. One is something, and Zero is nothing. The fact that the universe holds something over nothing, that it prefers to exist, rather than not exist, is fundamentally absurd. No being can ever come to deserve its own birth. 1/0 is a cry out against mere logic and efficiency. Stuff exists. All existence, all truth, cannot be ultimately justified: it can only be described, explained, and enjoyed.

1/0 is illogical. 1/0 is irrational. 1/0 is impossible. 1/0 is transcendentally unfair.

1/0 is true. Deal with it.

OH SHI-

By Mistah Vince on 01/05/2009
Holy fuck.

By VEPHYSAURAS on 01/05/2009
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By Samurai-JM on 01/05/2009
zero is not nothing, zero is a value. the absence of value is nothing, such as an asymptote or limit in math.

and yes, you are correct. existence really cannot be justified. we're just here. it's just a game, and you've got to play the game to win. btw 1/0 isn't infinity, it is simply undefined.

also you just lost -^

By Kecooler on 01/05/2009
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ May 01, 2009 07:39 am)
btw 1/0 isn't infinity, it is simply undefined.

Awesome let's define it together? wub.gif

By Multikill529 on 01/05/2009
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ May 01, 2009 12:39 pm)
btw 1/0 isn't infinity, it is simply undefined.


Wrong. It is simultaneously both negative and positive infinity. Look it up.

Also, the fact that 1/0 is irrational is EXTREMELY good. There's a false proof (again, look it up) that all numbers are equal which is only false because you can't divide by 0. So if we could divide by 0, then 23 and 89234283740284702 would be the same thing.

By Samurai-JM on 01/05/2009
i dun no mathz, i just make up stoofz.

DIVIDE BY ZERO = WORLD IMPLOSION, DUN DO EET.

By Kecooler on 01/05/2009
So... what's 0/0?

By Samurai-JM on 02/05/2009
QUOTE (WG_Keanu @ May 01, 2009 02:42 pm)
So... what's 0/0?

it's either 1 or 0. i think it's 1.

By Multikill529 on 02/05/2009
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ May 02, 2009 03:25 am)
QUOTE (WG_Keanu @ May 01, 2009 02:42 pm)
So... what's 0/0?

it's either 1 or 0. i think it's 1.

0/0 is the same case as 1/0 I do believe. Both negative and positive infinity (Though don't argue that to your math teacher before you go to College, just put undefined if you dun wanna be raped). I may be wrong on that point though, so do please correct me if I am.

By Kecooler on 02/05/2009
QUOTE (Multikill529 @ May 01, 2009 10:43 pm)
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ May 02, 2009 03:25 am)
QUOTE (WG_Keanu @ May 01, 2009 02:42 pm)
So... what's 0/0?

it's either 1 or 0. i think it's 1.

0/0 is the same case as 1/0 I do believe. Both negative and positive infinity (Though don't argue that to your math teacher before you go to College, just put undefined if you dun wanna be raped). I may be wrong on that point though, so do please correct me if I am.

Ok, here's my rule.

Keanu's Law of Mathematics: "0 and ∞ are concepts, not numbers"
0 being the concept of a lack of value and ∞ being the concept of an infinite value.


A Problem: 1 / 0

If one takes the value 1 to be a complete value (As opposed to a partial value, eg. 0.5 or a higher value eg. 1.5), then dividing 1 by 0 is like dividing a complete value by the concept of a lack of value. Since there is a value to the number 1, or for that matter any number which is not 0 or ∞, it is like asking the question, "How much nothing is there in something?" The answer of course has multiple possible solutions, similar to asking the question, "What's the opposite of cat?" which could be answered with a variety of responses such as "Dog", "Mouse", or even "Inverse Cat". For the moment there are two probable outcomes.

A Solution 1: Implicating that 1 is equal to 100%

If 1 is taken to be 100%, as is often the case, then the question "How much nothing is there in something?" will be interpreted as the amount of "nothing" in 100% (Or 1). Since 100% of anything is a complete value, the amount of nothing in a complete value will always be nothing, or in mathematical terms, the concept of 0.

So, Solution 1:
1 / 0 = 0
Or, when X = 100%,
X / 0 = 0

A Solution 2: Implicating that 1 is NOT equal to 100%

If 1 is not taken to be 100%, the same principle applies, but requires a value or concept which implies everything. This concept is of course, ∞. So, the question 1 / 0 would be answered with the value of everything else which is greater than the value 1, which in turn would be ∞ - 1.

So, Solution 2:
1 / 0 = ∞ - 1
Or, when X ≠ 100%,
X / 0 = ∞ - X

B Problem: 0 / 0

Still taking into account the concept of 0, dividing 0 by 0 is like asking "How much nothing is there in nothing?". Much in the same way that asking "How much nothing is there in (14 / 20)?". The answer is 6. This is determined by interpreting 20 as 100% and 14 as the concept of something. The value 6 does not literally exist, but represents the lack of vaue (Or 30% missing, as 14 / 20 is an incomplete value)

B Solutions:

The possible solutions for 0 / 0 are as follows:

0 / 0 = 100%
... Determined from the amount of nothing in nothing being everything in nothing.
Similarly:

0 / 0 = 1
... When 1 = 100%, for the reason above.
To imply the concept of everything being the amount of nothing in nothing:

0 / 0 = ∞
... Taking ∞ to be a value of 100%.
In algebraic terms:

0 / 0 = X
when X = 100%

By Samurai-JM on 02/05/2009
0 is a value of 0, it isn't a lack of value lol.

By Renegade3540 on 02/05/2009
QUOTE (WG_Keanu @ May 02, 2009 08:46 am)
Ok, here's my rule.

Keanu's Law of Mathematics: "0 and ∞ are concepts, not numbers"
0 being the concept of a lack of value and ∞ being the concept of an infinite value.


A Problem: 1 / 0

If one takes the value 1 to be a complete value (As opposed to a partial value, eg. 0.5 or a higher value eg. 1.5), then dividing 1 by 0 is like dividing a complete value by the concept of a lack of value. Since there is a value to the number 1, or for that matter any number which is not 0 or ∞, it is like asking the question, "How much nothing is there in something?" The answer of course has multiple possible solutions, similar to asking the question, "What's the opposite of cat?" which could be answered with a variety of responses such as "Dog", "Mouse", or even "Inverse Cat". For the moment there are two probable outcomes.

A Solution 1: Implicating that 1 is equal to 100%

If 1 is taken to be 100%, as is often the case, then the question "How much nothing is there in something?" will be interpreted as the amount of "nothing" in 100% (Or 1). Since 100% of anything is a complete value, the amount of nothing in a complete value will always be nothing, or in mathematical terms, the concept of 0.

So, Solution 1:
1 / 0 = 0
Or, when X = 100%,
X / 0 = 0

A Solution 2: Implicating that 1 is NOT equal to 100%

If 1 is not taken to be 100%, the same principle applies, but requires a value or concept which implies everything. This concept is of course, ∞. So, the question 1 / 0 would be answered with the value of everything else which is greater than the value 1, which in turn would be ∞ - 1.

So, Solution 2:
1 / 0 = ∞ - 1
Or, when X ≠ 100%,
X / 0 = ∞ - X

B Problem: 0 / 0

Still taking into account the concept of 0, dividing 0 by 0 is like asking "How much nothing is there in nothing?". Much in the same way that asking "How much nothing is there in (14 / 20)?". The answer is 6. This is determined by interpreting 20 as 100% and 14 as the concept of something. The value 6 does not literally exist, but represents the lack of vaue (Or 30% missing, as 14 / 20 is an incomplete value)

B Solutions:

The possible solutions for 0 / 0 are as follows:

0 / 0 = 100%
... Determined from the amount of nothing in nothing being everything in nothing.
Similarly:

0 / 0 = 1
... When 1 = 100%, for the reason above.
To imply the concept of everything being the amount of nothing in nothing:

0 / 0 = ∞
... Taking ∞ to be a value of 100%.
In algebraic terms:

0 / 0 = X
when X = 100%

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By Kecooler on 02/05/2009
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ May 02, 2009 09:11 am)
0 is a value of 0, it isn't a lack of value lol.

It's both actually, because a value of 0 actually has no value so there is a lack of value happy.gif You can't have any less of a value than 0 so there is no value at all.



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