Recruitment Rant

Right, im going to put alot into this post.


Right, looking at the recruitment lately ive noticed the way it stands is pretty much, apply, wait a week, your in. Thats pretty much what my rant is all about. Why is it so simple to get in a clan that portrays themselves as and i quote:

The reason most Applications are accepted, is because we need everyone we can get, we're not DF we cant reject people and get another 5 app's the next day. The standards on which we accept may change when we become more of a powerhouse but still we are a clan that is a great community.

When you say they didnt write essays to get into WG, this isnt Cambridge university we're a runescape clan, you also have to remember even if you know English well not everyone else does so they find it impossible to write Essays about themselfs to get in.

New applicants do get told to write more, but you dont see it our Application managers prefer to contact them personally.
As time goes on Members do improve and start becoming more flourished members if you seen my Introduction from when i first joined you probably would have laughed but look where i am today and how much i have improved from the way i write to the way i war.

Everyone's not the same we are all different and we should work with them to help them improve.

As we grow I think then changes will be necessary. At this moment of time I think things are fine the way they are.

I think we should do this tbh. Letting people in without them giving a **** shows them that this clan realy needs them and they can walk all over us in the application process. I remeber somthing like "We are the most prestigious clan in Runescape". Ok, we need members but most members who make rubbish applications and get in will not help this clan. If people put alot of effort into getting in, it isn't likely they arn't going to throw it away.

Good suggestion Jaxx.

I like this suggestion. Anyhow, the reason why the application system was alot tougher back in the day was because of the massive flood of applications WG used to get. It used to be sort of like a competition. Today, though, WG is in need of members. Any kind of members. No matter how strong their applications are, their RS status, their maturity, how good their English is, etc.

If WG does make the applications more strict, no; it wouldn't give WG a better image in front of the clan community. The only thing it would do is get us a smaller amount of members when we are in need of them.

We are getting a steady flow of good, active, members. Yes, they might have not written good introductions or applications, but as you can see, most of our new members are active, and have all what it takes to be in this clan.

People couldnt be arsed applying before. Its better this way.

once the clan is bigger and stronger u'll be seeing less people coming in. Thats how it has always been and how it works. You will see once we hit 100 members the amount of people going in will be less because we have to reject some.

Everyone deserves a chance
But yea, some of those quotes need to be removed...some are just false
A lot of our recruitment stuff need to be updated

The reason ,i say, its like this is because the clan hasnt fully developed we do not have loads of members and the clan doesnt get like 5 apps daily.
As the clan develops over a period of time i'd say they'd change it.

We should require a substantial effort from the applicants themselves. We will not shut them down and so "No." We will tell them what they need to do to be able to join the clan.
I agree that we don't want random kids who get in free. It is a privelage, but we shouldn't make it insanely hard.

I can't even view the application archive, so I can't comment.

We ought to ensure quality though.

In my old skill clan you had to get past 7 council members you could not intro unless they gave you premission first They wanted to make sure the clan stayed a tight group and everyone attending events I still have like 15 to 20 0f them I talk to regularlly Having smaller groups within the larger group may help with better activity Like do it by combat lvl Group 1 highest combat and they do one event a month only they attend and so on Then members will train to be in the top group maybe too I am not much of a fighter yet but I love social and skill stuff

Have you heard the saying *let God sort 'em out* accept all and kick those who don't fit before the month is up

Jaxx, I completely agree, but I have a different idea. It has been shown overtime that WG does best when it has a good balance between strength and community. If we get alot of members we become stronger but the community starts to suffer when the clan is so large that people do not feel they know each other. On the other hand many times when we do not have many members we are more close-knit as a community, but it is not as fun because we are weak as a clan.

The obvious solution is to limit the number of total members WG can have, I would recommend we close applications at 120 members (not including emeritus). The plan then would be to announce this on our forums, which hopefully will create a rush to fill the spots before the 120 member mark is reached. Until then we will continue to be fairly lenient with applications. Eventually as there is more demand for membership we can increase the member cap to 150-200, but I would advise against going above 200.

A new member can only get into the clan after the member cap is reached if a current member leaves, gets kicked, or becomes emeritus. The spots available then would be posted weekly, and applicants would have to compete for them.

I can see a number of benefits from implementing a member cap:
-A healthy balance between strength and community
-Create immediate demand for WG membership since it is a limited commodity.
-Increase in activity, since inactive members may be kicked or given emeritus, and cannot easily get back into the clan until a spot opens (emeritus would get first priority though).
-Increase in stability, since members will be reluctant to leave if they know they can only get back in if a spot is open, and even then they have to compete against other applicants. By keeping supply artificially low we ensure that if people do leave that the open spots will be immediately filled.
-Stronger community will result if members are more reluctant to leave. Instead of having a revolving door of new members coming in to replace the ones who have left, we will have current members staying in the clan for much longer, thus getting to know each other much better.
-Increase in prestige since once the member cap is hit WG will be one of the hardest clans to get into.

The Cons? We will be keeping the clan from realizing its full potential strength. However, often when we do let the clan reach its full strength it tends to peak and eventually decline and head towards a low point. With a large memberlist of people who joined for the strength of WG and not because they are loyal or particularly like the clan itself, the result unfortunately can be a snowball effect of members leaving that cripples the clan. Strength is not just in the levels and amount of members you have, it is in stability and community.


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Dont accept people after attending only 1 event.
Dont accept people 1 day after they apply.
Dont accept people who have a history of hacking and having macros.