I just want to say after seeing the thread on the suicide, we need to keep alert to possible problems in our own clan. If anyone makes a joke or even seems like they have the slightest thought on that, I would suggest that you direct them to get help.
In the USA, we have a life line for suicide. It is toll free and it does help them. I've given it to a few people before. The number is 1-800-273-Talk. I'm always open to helping people if you feel uncomfortable about it.
This is the one time, I believe that privacy can be thrown out the window. Just get them help.
If anyone has other countries life line phone numbers maybe you should post them here as well.
Rachy
Actually those members that went along with VR leadership need some serious help as well. I've only once done anything in WG that made me feel so uncomfortable from a leader's direction and I still regret it.