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Proud to be white
By Stokenut on 12/06/2009
Someone at work brought this to my attention, I'm going to post it here for your views.
How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," Caveman" ..And that's OK.
But when I call you, Nig..., Kike, Towel head, Sand-nig..., Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink...
You call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You Have Yom Hashoah
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television). We'd be racists.
If we had a White Pride Day ..You would call us racists. If we had White History Month
We'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives
We'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, And then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that? If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships ... You know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US. Yet if there were "White colleges" ..
THAT would be a racist college. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights.
You would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're Not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride ..
You call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society.
You call him a racist.
I am proud. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?
There is nothing improper about this subject.
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Whoever wrote this deserves a fucking medal.
By God Reports on 12/06/2009
It speaks the truth, not being racist or anything. Unfair society

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By Sithofwookie on 12/06/2009
Excelent points thoughout. I hate it when stuff like this happens.
By Tezza Rulz12 on 12/06/2009
You're racist for posting this
By Jayson on 12/06/2009
QUOTE (Tezza Rulz12 @ June 12, 2009 11:43 am) |
You're racist for posting this |
^this
By His Lordship on 12/06/2009
Sort of.
The best thing is not to make the separation in the first place.
By For Sooth on 12/06/2009
You're being lied to.
By Bambaleo on 12/06/2009
you really can't join a Blacks College if you're white? wow...i didn't know that, if that's true, that is racist...like if you apply there and not get it, would they tell you that the reason is "you're white"? that'd be fucked up.
but all in all, i think they went through enough fights for their rights to have this right now. I don't mind. I am sure it will change very soon. Well at least i hope it will.
By sgtswordfish on 12/06/2009
during the previous years whites have been discriminative in many areas. this gave the unfair opportunity to other races to play the racist card AND SHAFT IT TO THE WHITE MAN. in other words whites getting picked on for being "the elite"
anyhow..on a side note if one commits the crime they pay the time. as for discriminatory crimes in the old days where not prosecuted or where given lesser accounts. on today the laws are much fairer and criminals are caught and sentenced according to their acts. in any case we all know darwinism and the fact that minority groups are catching up to the "elites" is something that will cause two things. one, if you fight them you will die or if you learn to understand each other then we'll coexist. as for being fair we can discuss this but unless we live in each other shoes there is so way to know what is fair for whites or what is fair for minority groups as a whole.
By Renegade3540 on 12/06/2009
I agree with the message it tries to convey.
However it's a bit overboard in the use of stereotypes. ;P
By Eregion2 on 12/06/2009
Someone I work with was complaining this morning about a paper she has to write on gender discrimination. I thought it'd be a neat idea to do a paper on discrimination against MEN in certain careers, but I didn't mention it. Nobody ever likes it when I try to make their essays interesting.
By Firelion08 on 15/06/2009
... Because you white people have a history of exploiting your racial identity.
... Because you white people usually initiate the racist name-calling.
JK
Racists are obselete. It's now the age of bigotry and stupidity.
By bobler2 on 15/06/2009
QUOTE (His Lordship @ June 12, 2009 03:28 am) |
Sort of. The best thing is not to make the separation in the first place. |
Kinda late for that one.
Its the same with religion in a lesser extent in Britian, we have places for all religions to worship, yet when it comes to pubhlick festivities, like chistmas, people kick up a fuss.
I read the topic title and went "OH SHI-"
Then saw it was by stoke
And Lol'd
But yeah i agree.
By rachellove9 on 15/06/2009
QUOTE (Eregion2 @ June 12, 2009 10:07 am) |
Someone I work with was complaining this morning about a paper she has to write on gender discrimination. I thought it'd be a neat idea to do a paper on discrimination against MEN in certain careers, but I didn't mention it. Nobody ever likes it when I try to make their essays interesting. |
My male nurse gave me a massage while I was in the hospital. I love male nurses except you have to be careful what kind of undergarments you're wearing.
By Owniemage on 15/06/2009
It's to black and white but ok.
I would do the same thing if I was black tbh.
Or at least; I would fuck up some WG'ers for being a racist L
By Onathe on 15/06/2009
Alot of really good points in that post, you always need to becareful as to what you say or your proclaimed racist, Though hardly anyone is.
The general point hes trying to get across is good though.
By slayer123121 on 16/06/2009
Read the title on the main page and thought "Only stoke would post that" turns out i was right

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Alot of good points but then again they have some good points.
By Chimpy on 16/06/2009
Amen.
I shouldn't be able to be discriminated against for the slaves that my great great grandparents didn't even own. Like some black girl in my class was arguing with some white guy and she said "IT'S NOT THE SAME YOU WEREN'T AN ENSLAVED RACE@" I just wanted to say "Were YOU a slave? No, so gtfo my tits...or his tits since you weren't talking to me...

." But she would never understand anyways so it's useless to even open my mouth.
edit: Stoke me and you so need to organize a white pride march just to piss people off

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edit 2: Joe nh.
By Sum-41xx on 16/06/2009
It's a matter of perspective. Its true that whites were extremely discriminate to other races only a hundred years ago, let alone the 50/60's. It's only normal that these races are now proud to be what they are. We remain the same with not much pride because we're somewhat still allowing them to .... Bahhh. i dont want to explain, i think you know where im going with this.
By RobbieThe1st on 16/06/2009
QUOTE (His Lordship @ June 12, 2009 03:28 am) |
Sort of. The best thing is not to make the separation in the first place. |
+1000
I have thought this for a long time myself. Even just acknowledging that skin color/ethnicity is something more than just a minor difference(like say hair color) is asking for trouble, and as it is now, the whole problem defined in the first post is -causing- racism.
I for one think that if you ripped out all the race-specific rules and all that crap(Going back to *true* equal-opportunity employment, things would go along just fine). Sure, you may not end up with equal numbers in every job, but that is to be expected. It should not be a problem if a group of people don't particularly want to take a certain job.
Just my 2c.
-Robbie
By Dieyou2000 on 16/06/2009
QUOTE (RobbieThe2nd @ June 16, 2009 12:12 am) |
QUOTE (His Lordship @ June 12, 2009 03:28 am) | Sort of. The best thing is not to make the separation in the first place. |
+1000 I have thought this for a long time myself. Even just acknowledging that skin color/ethnicity is something more than just a minor difference(like say hair color) is asking for trouble, and as it is now, the whole problem defined in the first post is -causing- racism.
I for one think that if you ripped out all the race-specific rules and all that crap(Going back to *true* equal-opportunity employment, things would go along just fine). Sure, you may not end up with equal numbers in every job, but that is to be expected. It should not be a problem if a group of people don't particularly want to take a certain job.
Just my 2c.
-Robbie
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+100000000
Completely agree. I thought about this issue for a bit and it occurred to me that why should there be separate groups like the NAACP and other racial minority support groups that try to get rights for their specific race/creed/religion/whatever. Why can't they realize that if you do that, then you will constantly be in a fight with other groups so that if one organization gains rights for their members, then all the other organizations try to get that too, but then they always take it way too far and threaten us with being racist if we deny it to them.
It's like in the Netherlands and England where Shariah Law (Muslim Court System) is now an accepted law because Muslims literally threatened with violence their way into getting it. When that cartoon with Muhammed was posted Muslims in the middle-east did not even shy away from saying that they would kill any Netherlandish?... people that they found and threatened terrorism on the country. They then backed down and let the insanity begin. You cannot grant exceptions to a certain group of people because then everyone wants their here-say.
A common example would be the banning of books such as in Fahrenheit 451. Say white people are uncomfortable with Uncle Tom's Cabin so it's banned. Christians are uncomfortable with Richard Dawkins or any science text books so they're banned. George Bush is uncomfortable with all books not containing pictures so they're all banned. Get the point?
Anyway my main point is just that there shouldn't be all these splintered groups dedicated to gaining rights for a particular minority. What we really need is ONE group dedicated to making all human rights equal. I think the people in these groups have the right idea, they just don't understand that what they're doing is actually worsening the problem.
Although I personally do have a problem calling people african/mexican/asian/whatever-americans. I mean the only way you're one of those is if you were born in that country and then immigrated here. Otherwise, you're just an american. And if you want to say it's because that's where their ancestry is then pooftah. Most anthropological, historical, and scientific experts will tell you that the human race originated in Africa, so I guess we're all african-americans eh?
Black pride? Which reminds me you always hear that..."Black Pride", and yet if you call them black most of them would be mad at you, as they prefer to be called african-americans. Yet they themselves call it black pride. Maybe I'm wrong but personally I've never heard anyone say african-american pride ftw!...so yeah.
As for the argument that it's wrong to use words like nigg, except if you're AA because they understand what it's like to be a slave since they have great-great-grandparents that were is just complete bs. That's like saying I know what it's like to be a girl because I have a sister. Or I understand what it was like to be in the Holocaust because my dad is Jewish. Makes no sense and it's just a deflection tactic to make you feel bad about something you didn't even do.
Btw I win longest post...stop posting controversial threads I always end up writing 30mins posts on them. Time wasting ftw.
By Owniemage on 16/06/2009
Cba to read Dieyou2000's post. Kinda too long but..
The thing is, they are proud to be black, cause they have actually managed to become free.
But we? We just managed to let them work for us, nothing to be proud of.
Or w/e, we don't have anything to be proud of as a white person. (Idk any*)
By Stokenut on 16/06/2009
Nobody reads long posts Dieyou lol
They just read the last line or two.
By rachellove9 on 16/06/2009
QUOTE (Stokenut @ June 16, 2009 06:52 am) |
Nobody reads long posts Dieyou lol They just read the last line or two. |

Actually I read all of it.
Die, your post shows that you truly understand most of the issues. However, I don't think Bush has to have pictures in his Bible. lol
Your point in short being that stop labeling ourselves to make the difference. I don't like the AA thing either. I call my one friend ~ darker skin ~ . She is exactly same as me, with arms, legs, body, and ect . . . only skin is a lil darker. She is welcome to come to my house, visit my church, borrow my clothes or jewelry. I never think of her any differently then I do my light skin friends. We are all just friends. She has to put up with my hugging, kissing and crying on her too. lol She never brings it up to any of us either.
By Karlfischer on 16/06/2009
I do not think you are racist, but your thinking seems to be along the same lines. That is you are being very simplistic and drawing black and white lines.
There is a huge difference between changing the status-quo and preserving the status-quo. Minority groups aim to change the status quo, which they still believe unfairly favors white people. A group trying to empower white people would be aimed at preserving the status quo, and thereby ensuring white people have an inherent advantage over other races.
If there is racial equality and groups like NAACP still exist, then yes you would be right, they would be racist. And please do not try to tell me there is racial equality now, that is bullshit.
Yes, someone calling you a derogatory names for a white person is a racist. However, that does not make you any less of a racist for doing the same.
By sgtswordfish on 16/06/2009
the fact of the matter is that discrimination is based on assumptions.
people make assumptions everyday. it crosses the fine line when your assumption hurts the other person via their self-esteem. making them feel inferior to you.
an example of this was when a friend of mine calls me mexican. i just ignore it and keep walking. and when he tries again i ignore it. the fact that he is calling me mexican is insulting but can be ignored. mainly because mexican in the u.s.a. is a generic term for all latinos but by not acknowledging his calling i'm also setting my line on the issue by stating that i'm not a mexican and i do happen to have a name.
another example was on a ride to california a friend of mine dropped a piece of trash on the floor and told me to pick it up and throw it at a dumpster (btw, he said mexican and used profanity). luckily i just smiled and called a teacher and asked him to tell the teacher exactly what he said. afterward i send him packing home with a suspencion of a week. we're still friends but i think he got the message after that.
By Dieyou2000 on 16/06/2009
In terms of law all races or any other minority have the same legal rights nowadays, except gay people who still cannot marry in some states, and atheists who are not allowed to serve in any political office in some states.
The problem I believe is not one that will be solved by passing laws that require an employer to hire an AA or a women even if neither of them are applying for a job or are noticeably more under qualified than a fellow prospective employee.
I think the problem is just that a lot of racism, bigotry, and homophobia still exist in people that just don't know any better. In essence I'm saying the problem is human error, not something that can be fixed by passing laws that do nothing but worsen the problem and cause even more racial tension such as the one stated above.
I still stand by the fact that I think there should be one single group dedicated to showing that we as humans are all equal, not separate groups each trying to show that they are equal, but never gain the same footing with eachother.
It's about human equality, not racial equality. About showing that skin color no more decides who you are any more than what color your eyes are.
By VEPHYSAURAS on 16/06/2009
QUOTE (Dieyou2000 @ June 16, 2009 04:13 pm) |
In terms of law all races or any other minority have the same legal rights nowadays, except gay people who still cannot marry in some states, and atheists who are not allowed to serve in any political office in some states.
The problem I believe is not one that will be solved by passing laws that require an employer to hire an AA or a women even if neither of them are applying for a job or are noticeably more under qualified than a fellow prospective employee.
I think the problem is just that a lot of racism, bigotry, and homophobia still exist in people that just don't know any better. In essence I'm saying the problem is human error, not something that can be fixed by passing laws that do nothing but worsen the problem and cause even more racial tension such as the one stated above.
I still stand by the fact that I think there should be one single group dedicated to showing that we as humans are all equal, not separate groups each trying to show that they are equal, but never gain the same footing with eachother.
It's about human equality, not racial equality. About showing that skin color no more decides who you are any more than what color your eyes are. |
Sounds good. However the problem would be who would lead this group. How would you implement it? How would it function together as a cohesive unit without tension?
Essay should be 1000 words double spaced. In MLA formating with proper works cited. Have fun noob.
By sgtswordfish on 16/06/2009
owned!
anyhow i say lets follow the golden rule
whoever has the gold-makes the rules.
much like in wg. who gives a darn if u don't like. if the leader says so then u might as well do it or get outta the way.
then again, it beats being shafted or lynched just because someone hates the color of ur skin. or mass murdered with poison gas.
the truth of the matter is we have to learnto coexist. the strong may survive but eventually strength faints and you're left with all that you've made during ur reign. the outcome at the end is what makes all the difference.
as we all know. people who generaly are racist have always met their demise. plus are mostly cowards =P
By Gibble00 on 17/06/2009
There is WET, it's called Country Music Television, I don't recommend it.
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Alot of really good points in that post, you always need to becareful as to what you say or your proclaimed racist, Though hardly anyone is.
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Too many people actually are racist.
I know too much about racism and homophobia, it's just better to avoid it. Fight against it by never being that way. Easiest thing to do.
By WG_Aaron on 21/06/2009
Fuck Politial correctness.
People dont succeed seperated, They succeed unified. All this racial political correctness bullshit is a disease.
By Onathe on 21/06/2009
QUOTE (Gibble00 @ June 18, 2009 12:25 am) |
There is WET, it's called Country Music Television, I don't recommend it.
QUOTE | Alot of really good points in that post, you always need to becareful as to what you say or your proclaimed racist, Though hardly anyone is.
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Too many people actually are racist.
I know too much about racism and homophobia, it's just better to avoid it. Fight against it by never being that way. Easiest thing to do.
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Yes i do agree with you mate, im just saying if someone says something the wrong way, and are then proclaimed racist.
I do understand alot of people are infact Racist i hate them. I just don't like seeing the innocent people who say something in the wrong sense attacked for being a 'racist'
But yeah i guess i agree but don't agree its a hard subject to talk about without being labelled racist by people.
By Chimpy on 21/06/2009
QUOTE (Red_Buddas (Imperial Wizard)) |
But yeah i guess i agree but don't agree its a hard subject to talk about without being labelled racist by people. |
Wow you're racist
By Tmal34 on 23/06/2009
You aren't American steve.
Silly.
By Nick on 23/06/2009
Meh. I just noticed this topic and thought I would put my 2 cents in.
inb4racist
I honestly have quite a few of the same views that were expressed in the thing that Steve quoted (Tmal he quoted it, I believe). I am personally Italian-American (about 50% Italian - mainly from my mother), but at school I am white. If I am talking about someone with the darker color of skin, I must say African-American even though they are probably only 12.5% African or whatever. If I say they are black, I get called racist or get jumped. It is all ridiculous what the standards of political correctness have done.
Oh and Bam yes. If you are a minority in the United States you have colleges and college funds specifically for you. I honestly have not seen a college fund or college specifically for me being "white".
By spanthrax on 24/06/2009
when you get right down to it, i hate to say it but we're all racist in some way shape or form. it isnt always black and white but everyone on this planet is a racist in one way or another in my own personal opinion.
By Firelion08 on 24/07/2009
QUOTE (spanthrax @ June 24, 2009 02:21 am) |
when you get right down to it, i hate to say it but we're all racist in some way shape or form. it isnt always black and white but everyone on this planet is a racist in one way or another in my own personal opinion. |
This is going to sound rude (it's not intentional), but what's your point?
"Because a person might identify a person more-or-less upon ethnicity or skin color, they are racist."
That's the implication I sensed from you're post.
If that's the case, I think you're talking about separate ideas.
Being
aware of one's race and being
prejudice against one's race are two considerably different things -- however similar they might seem. The primary factor, in my opinion, being that, whether we like it or not, people look different.
A green apple looks different from a red apple; A purple grape looks different from a green grape: These are
facts, not necessarily malicious labels. The basic difference in racism is the distortion that one or some are absolutely superior to others based upon these facts... I which context, they
would be malicious labels.
Although the act of distinguishing people's appearance can potentially lead to racism (which is what I think you meant to say), in it's natural and early stage, it's not. Neither does it necessarily conflict with the belief that every person is a human being with equal rights.
Personally, hate racism to the core, but I find it irritating when I can't verbally identify a person's actual race.
P.S. This my opinion, and I am making an assumption about your post.
I realize I could be rambling on irrelevantly. If I am, I'm sorry.
By Stokenut on 24/07/2009
Nice bumping a month old topic.
By Firelion08 on 25/07/2009
QUOTE (Stokenut @ July 24, 2009 06:53 pm) |
Nice bumping a month old topic. |
Sorry for overlapping the other 4 up-to-date threads.
By Stokenut on 25/07/2009
QUOTE (Firelion08 @ July 25, 2009 01:53 am) |
QUOTE (Stokenut @ July 24, 2009 06:53 pm) | Nice bumping a month old topic. |
Sorry for overlapping the other 4 up-to-date threads.
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