MEGA-ANNOUNCEMENT

This announcement is a 5 in 1
Pay full attention and read it all.
It is five times more important than the standard IA.
Make sure this topic stays on top.


WE ARE COMING OUT OF THIS SLUMP WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
It's not just about the satisfaction of being a good clan.
Think of "3) Has His Lordship lost control" and "WG is an NH slumping clan"
Imagine how sore Mugger and all the anti-WG will be when we become stronger.
The satisfaction of beating the enemy... COME ON GET OUT OF THE SLUMP NOW.



Mega Announcement ONE - Enforced Equipment Requirement

From now on, every member must have this equipment in their bank at all times. You have until the next coming weekend to obtain it all. If you run low you need to restock immediately. Council members will be doing spot checks at random.
Minimum amounts given with recommended amounts in brackets.

You have TWO WEEKS to get ALL of this.
I am putting in 100% effort now that I am active.
I expect you people to work for your glory.
Yes, this is an EPIC list, but 2 weeks is reasonable.


All Members Must Have:

Teamcape 9 - 20 (100)
Amulet of Glory - 10 (20) (Return with Power Amulets after 2 deaths)
Ring of Life - 20 (50)
Shark - 300 (1k)
Summer Pie - 100 (200)
Saradomin Brews - 30 (50)
Super Restore Potion - 20 (50)
Prayer Potion - 30 (50)
Water Runes - 3k (5k)
Nature Runes - 1k (2k)
Earth Runes - 3k (5k)
Red Chinchompas - 300 (500)
Full Rune (kite and granite interchangeable) + Scimitar - 10 (20) (not as many plates required)
Helm of Nietiznot - 5 (10)
Dragon Dagger (p++) OR D Scim - 5 (10)
Dragon Spear - 3 (5)
Superset - 20 (30)
Rune Gloves (Recipe for Disaster required) - 10 (20)
Games Necklace - 20 (30)



(Ignore the total for the second image. Do not add it. It is part of the 4.3M total.)
+ 20 x Games Necklace (20.8k for 20)


From the three fighting styles, EVERYONE must have tank gear (ie. Melee). You also MUST hybrid, so pick one or both of the two remaining styles.


Mage

Full Mystic OR Splitbark Mage Armour - 5 (10)
Ancient Staff - 5 (10)
Death Runes - 1k (3k)
Blood Runes - 1k (3k)
Water Runes - Additional 3k on top of amount required for all members (6k in total)
Air Runes - 3k - (5k)
Staff of Fire - 10 (20)
Wizard Top - 10 (20)
Wizard Hat - 10 (20)
Whatever you like for the robe bottom




Ranged

Black Dragonhide set - 10 (20)
Green Dragonhide Set - 10 (20)
Diamond Bolts - 400 @ 50 per trip (600 @ 50 per trip) + Accumulator
Rune Crossbow - 10 (20)
Maple Shortbow - 20 (50)
Adamant Arrows - 2k @ 200 per trip (5k)
Ranging Potion - 20 (30)




If we're short of one type on a raid, a strong clan is a versatile clan. This week, I would like event leaders to have some money-making events. God Wars and Potential.






Mega Announcement TWO - Emphasis on P2P - For now + Set Raid Times Again

F2P is WAY too competitive with massive powerhouse clans storming around. The exception is the Aussie raid which remains THE f2p raid. We're now back to weekly raids after the other leaders have caught up with my level of intelligence and realised weekly raids ARE the way to go and we shouldn't have scrapped them.

P2P Raid - 5pm EST Every Saturday Night
Aussie Raid - 8pm Australian EST
GMT - Flexi for now. We'll mess around with it until we find a time with good attendance.

We usually hold a late Sunday night raid as well. This will not be weekly. Some weeks we can't be bothered.

Anyway, P2P is the way to go. In getting together your list of equipment listed above, bias your purchases toward p2p raid gear first. In p2p we own. Kenshln took advantage of WG's p2p success and brought us up to glory that way. (For the newer guys, WG was in a massive slump and Kenshln was the one who started up KF raids and brought us out of it. Second most important figure in WG history below me. I'd give him instant council if he decided to rejoin)

Anyway back on track. WG has a really amazing p2p history. We were #2 p2p in 2006. This clan takes to p2p VERY easily. We were at our strongest when we were biased to p2p. You f2p members need not worry. We will be going back to 50/50 p2p and f2p once our numbers are up.



^Let this movie load and watch. It is FUCKING EPIC^
P2P war with EOS from EOS point of view.

Guys lets get back up to THAT level of epicness.






Mega Announcement THREE - Recruit a Friend Month

We've got a good clan now, and we want to share it with even more people, and in turn get even better. Imagine, if everyone recruitment one member, we'd double n size. It's going to be mandatory unfortunately. This is simply the biggest problem we've faced. But we don't want our new recruits to feel like they were recruited because we nagged. They have to be really appreciated and shown a good time. They are not just numbers, they are our future friends. So recruit someone you want in your company.

Council (and there's no way around this) will keep a list in Level 4. And referrals will be checked off. If you recruit the most, you get the WG T-Shirt.



For everyone else that has recruited someone, you get put in a raffle for the mystery prize. My advice - don't recruit off Runescape. Runescape recruits don't stay active. And RSC posting is lame. Competitive, but it DOES work if you are low on options. Referral of friends is the best. If you don't have any friends, take the time to make some. There are a lot of people in small clans that want something bigger and better. They are the sort of people who will be great members of this family.





Mega Announcement FOUR - Taking care of the forum menu

It is still up for debate as to whether tertiaries will be given limited ACP access, but we are really going to support the menu, and re-instate clan time. Message of the week will be weekly, announcements will go in the news. The war record will be updated majorly. And please check for event times whenever you are on. I'd also like to be able to update attendance via that panel (Robbie please can we put the attendance editor in the menu, with the default load set to members only rather than clan friends? Right now every registered member is loaded and it lags me up).

So yes, we're going to make use of that for quick reference. It will be updated heavily. Daily.





Mega Announcement FIVE - Major Facelift

1. Clan website major update including history.
* On a related note I want everyone to become acquainted with the condensed history of WG at least. Its important because most of you don't know exactly what we've been through and how absolutely epic our history is.

2. Recruitment video on its way. It's a flash video, and I might do a real life one too. I have a concept of basically, anyone with a video camera willing to vid themselves post below. It's gonna be about people from all walks of life talking about WG and basically reading a script I've given them (and sounding like its from the heart). And it would be you looking cool, not in your room pimple-faced playing RS. I'll be at Uni with my friends or something, saying "People from all walks of life come together in one of the greatest online communities" and then Glenn will be like on his skateboard saying "I'm the warlord, and I'm bringing a new p2p side to WG". And then BTO will be in his corner cutting his wrists and sitting on his mother's lap, saying "I'm BTO and I'm here to support the clan from a council spot etc..."

So if you have a video camera, offer up your lifestyle (could be surfing, music, sport, whatever. Something active) and we can make a compiled IRL movie. Please volunteer.

3. Recruitment topics will consequently get bumped up.

4. RSC posting will now be a big thing. Everyone please have an account and try to stay away from clan discussion. Everyone in there is in a clan. Posting with a cool WG sig (sigs coming soon) will draw attention to the clan. BTO was recruited that way. We're going to get big on RSC.

5. Also, don't forget the topsite clicks daily. Click on LINKS at the top forum menu and click on each topsite for added publicity.

* Chimp Salutes

A lot to absorb.
I do resent my gear not being included in your list though.
Recruiting a friend could be the hardest as I tapped all my resources in Mmangler.
Silver hates WG, kudos to the people who did that.
Some of the stuff is staff only since I doubt regular members will be messing with forum menus any time soon.

so. basicly i need to get stuff.

attend all events humanly possible

and recruit as many people, at least 1 close friend out of the bunch.


if correct edit my message. that way we don't spam this thread =P

Sounds good. I'll make sure everything is stocked at right levels =)

Recruit one friend a month was my suggestion in ts thing today. Kwl.

Only one friend a month. Surely we can do that if we focus enough. Going to love these p2p raids. I was thinking of quitting rs but not so sure now hmm...

I love everything that you say here, but a few things that I am questioning, especially on the gear.

I personally can afford it, and I actually just went through and bought almost everything that I need. I do know of a few people that may not be able to afford the 7.5m minimum that you are requesting. So because someone doesn't have 7.5m to just spend on gear to stock, they may be kicked? I think that is a bit outrageous. We better be having quite a few GWD trips going on this week to help people make money.

I ask you this question, with no intention to poke fun of or to insult you, do you have 7.5m to spend right now on the minimum gear?

I understand that this will all help us grow, which is why I went through and got everything. I want to try to make this clan succeed, which is why I am still in WG and support all of the things that you have mentioned. I just believe a bar or two that you set the standards at are a bit high for the moment.

Other than that, let's recruit, let's raid, and let's succeed.

EDIT: Also with the gear checks, because the staff is checking, someone needs to make sure that the staff themselves have the gear. Don't let that get overlooked.

EDIT2: The 7.5m figure I brought in, included both of the hybrid gears, which from a statement you said at the end of that section, we should pretty much have both of.

I read it..





You own.

Ok a few answers.
I don't even want to consider punishing.
I believe that every member can get the equipment and I don't have to consider the negative.

I use myself as a benchmark for acceptable standards.
I'm probably the poorest person in WG (seriously), so if it takes me more than 2 weeks, I will give an extension to everyone else. I won't be playing excessive hours a day so by my own progress I can measure the demands I have placed.

Say we get into the terrible business of FORCING punishment - It's a case by case thing. If a rich member didn't want to because they were saving up for summoning or construction materials, I wouldn't take it... but if they have been on holiday for a week, I will give them an extra week.

I will be checking the council, and the council will be checking me. It's all fair.

A point for emeritus - you are free to do as you will. I encourage you to obviously chip in and help out, but there are NO MORE ACTIVITY requirements for emeritus, not even posting. It's a permanent rank, but you can't go for leadership positions, and the active member list will receive the majority of the leaders' attention, obviously.

Great post, WG can easily dominate p2p again if we all put in the effort.
Basically all i have been doing lately is recruiting(or trying to) and making money for more/better gear (maybe after a few more hilts i can p2p in ahrims etc )


Also ifanyone needs help with money making or wants a few tips then feel free to pm me on irc/forums, ill try and help where i can and maybe we can do some bosses or somtin

I can't say I see the point of *forcing* WG to have 5-7m stocked up in items all the time. Most of the required items are instant buy/sell on GE so you really can go "Raid in 30 min, better go get some of...." and still easily source them.

I really dont like to see Wg once again attempting to rule members banks with an iron fist, this is on the same level as telling us we 'have' to have a PvP tab in our banks.

I would have thought that as long as I can turn up to a raid in acceptable gear that would be fine, spot checks & restrictive guidlines get me confused, is this Wildguard or Stalingrad?

THANK YOU LORDY
Your posts always make the morale go up,
you made me so motivated that i wanna fucking jump of a bridge because im so fucking full of energy roflcopter!!!!(maybe because its last day of exams to)
I'm going to set up some events to for earning some cash like having some ppl with 91+ rc at nature altar for us wg crafting some fast double nats.
if you want me to help checking the gear nd stuff i'm your man.
I will also try recruiting alot of members but it's hard because most of my friends r in clans like RDC

Great post Lordy, I will help WG where it needs.

26king is an easy and good way to get money. I made 19M with it, in only 1 day.

I'm with Lefty and Evil, I don't see the light about spending 7m on raiding supplies. Maybe this will contribute to the complicated climb out of our "slump" or maybe not. Hopefully there will be plenty of money making events, 100% P2P EP gives a good chance of 5m I hear.

Sounds like a good idea to me and i may also be able to do something with an video camera if you would like Eugene so talk to me sometime and I think this is a great idea and going to get us active and going again.

I will also be sure to host some spur of the moment GWD trips etc this week if you guys want to go to make some cash to help get gear. Just drop me a PM anytime and I am usually up for Armadyl or something.

FOR DRAGON DAGGER P++ I DO HAVE A LIMITED SUPPLY OF WEAPON POISON ++ FOR SALE.

Trade value. It does take a while to get the nightshade for it you know.

I do like the idea of coming out of our "slump", but you have to see that sometimes you can ask for too much. And i'm glad that you all are so hyped up about this, that's a great thing. I agree with probably 80% of the things said in the topic but here is where controversy comes along...

Ok, so first off let's start with gear. Yes, we are heading into our P2P phase, but like a couple people have already said 7.5m is a bit too much. We aren't #2 P2P again Gene... We have to start small and if you have like 3-5 sets i believe you're fine. In a worst-case scenario we have a bad raiding day and somebody dies 3 times. That's means they returned 3 times, now tell me who returns 3 times? Only members who are dedicated and actually like it. They'll make most of the money back, and probably profit from 26k's afterwards, and if they're coming back 3 times you have to trust them that they'll probably restock after the raid.

You can't just force people to put their entire banks into raiding gear, or even 7.5m at that. I'm not speaking for myself, you all know im loaded and already have well over that in gear. But it's thinking about others. Gene, you want 60 members to have 7m in gear, when only 15-20 show up to raids?

Next, recruiting is like OMGF HALP FFS. Like BTO, most people don't have frands outside of WG. And if they do, they are some RL frands who own pures, are in other clans, or just don't clan/war. That's the exact case with me, i've tried recruiting from in-game - epic fail. And RSC just don't work with me ffs. Making it mandatory, you can expect half-ass members joining IMO.

Okay, that is all for now.

~Saad


EDIT: All in all, you know I'm right by your side no matter what. I wouldn't leave WG for anything.

*sigh*

It looks fantastic, but no skiller recognition or single-combat PvP. I is sad. I'd still argue that our problem isn't in terms of devotion or dedication but simply that most of us don't enjoy the same old PvP much anymore. I mean, I see people in WoW raiding upwards of 10 hours a week in Ulduar and I'd KILL to get in on that shit. I won't spend 5 minutes in RS PvP though as it stands.

It's not the gear, it's the heart.

But anyway, I'm just an old emeritus fart.
I'll try to be on RSC more though, help represent and whatnot.

Well i can understand what lordy is trying to get across. If we want a better clan and get more members to join, when they join they will look at the current members and see what they are doing and have got, if the current members are showing quality and haing mass amounts of gear this will encourage new members to be just as commited and bring a real enthusiasm to WG. Im looking forward to the next month or so. Im not good at recruiting atall, no friends or anything in RS ive not long been back playing as Kyle knows, but ill be trying my best to recruit new members like everyone else.

Lets get the ball rolling!

ok

ogawd...

nevertheless i am staying f2p

Am I the only one who noticed

Good luck guys, looking forward to seeing you dominate P2P <3

I know you will

SHOTGUN CHECKING DARF'S GEAR EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY!
Yessir.... ok will start compiling that gear this week.
TO the rest -

Just get 100 ep, then 26k. Takes 2 hours+ tops and you have enough for the raid pretty much lol.

I am not compromising my position one tiny bit.
I am demanding all this gear be bought.

If you want to get out of this slump, don't rely on me to do everything.
Everyone has to pull their weight.

Don't get me wrong Lefty, Evil.
I am not questioning your dedication.
You are two of my most loyal and hard working members.
However I am questioning something else.
Your priorities.
It may seem to you that this move is not worth it.
I can tell you right here and now, the result pays off tenfold.

NTY I LYK MY PIXLS

I aswell am one of the poorest members of WG, but I shall try to get most of it (I already have a good bit of it)

I have asked for a high amount, yes. You'll never use it all on one raid.
I'm asking for so much so that there is some room for you to keep raiding if you don't have time to replenish. I'll never ask someone to return 10 times, or even 5 times in p2p. I'd ask for 3 returns max, but I'm demanding that everyone give themselves some extra padding. What if you go away for a week? You come back, there's a raid... and you can be relieved you've still got spare gear.

Higher amounts = more padding = less replenishing.

There is no way I want you to lose that amount of money non-stop. It's a one time buy, and from then on you replace only what you lose in raids. With the specified amounts, no member will EVER be able to give the excuse that they have no gear.

The 10 rune sets for example. Yes, we are going to p2p. On p2p you'll still need the rune legs and kite to tank. The other rune items are for the f2p raids WHICH WILL STILL HAPPEN!. But since they are not happening so much you'll find that your 10 rune sets will not deplete quickly. You'll just have 10 sets there in case we have a major f2p PKRI.

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Let me summarise. NEVER will I put the clan in a situation what will knock out a big chunk of their supplies. You are all SLIGHTLY over-supplying (I call this padding). The amounts given should last about 5 disastrous raids in a row without restocking, so JUST IN CASE you don't have time to replenish, you can still keep going, and worry about replenishing later. Now remember, this is 5 disastrous raids. In reality, you won't be losing that much. You pay this base cost, and replenishing in the long run costs about the same as it does at the moment.

k i agree whit this all it might be a hard time for me getting al the gear since my account is newer and i dont have that much cash yet.

anyways 1 thing i just dont do is the rings of life. i dont want to use a ring of life just because i see it as nh and i dont like it.

Whut?L

I agree Lordy, Say.. You dont get a loot in a p2p raid and u died once which is like a 500K loss?
You earned potential on ur trip, you go 26K someone and POOOF! There is your geepee's.


You should keep this in Lord, and you will see who are the real diehards
(I doesnt count, Gf'ed Lll)

100 barrages are already around 150K..
Rune plate + legs + kite = 130K
Splitbark legs and body = 70K
Neitiznot = 50K
Glory = 40K
Dds = 40K

Im sure I forgot a loooot but this is already 500K? :$

There is no one you can lose a ton of money during a raid. I think BTO's raid calls are pretty tight most of the time. Just be listening and learning. It is very easy to make 1m+ from 26k AFTER a raid. Not just mentioning during it or target kills if you are lucky.


Edit: To the above poster, your 26king after the raid if you were there the whole raid will easily cover those costs times 2 or 4 or even 10 times. Don't be afriad to die. Be afriad to die and learn nothing from dying.

not being Sir David Attenborough I really don't know what to say other than... SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

Raid gear: 15k
500 barrages: 500k
Getting more kills than everyone else: Priceless

^^^ LOL! I love you Joe!!

Alright i got everything banked whats between the ()'s

i love u sir >.<

can we start to try and recruit now?

Ahh, read. I came back for a bit and what an announcement. In an episode of Ten Speed and Brown Shoe, one of the detectives poses as an Arab Shiek. In a clothing store, he was told that the price of a suite was $5K. His response was "What so cheap?" I suspect that I am not the poorest member but I am not far from it. I will begin acquireing the myriad items that I do not have but at the end of two week it is more likely than not that I will not have all of the minimum items but I will definitely try. My objective in playing RS is entertainment and rightly or wrongly I have never made a significant effort to accumulate wealth--especially for skill that are essentially purchased, which will hamper my purchasing power but like I said I will make the effort.

What the fuck.

I kinda meet the requirements in a major way

currently working in pvp to get spare change, I'll probably go out and buy like 50 sets of everything.


I own the glory requirement. 150 glories ftw.

Can we switch out rune kites for toktz-ket-xil if we have them?

Also, I want to mage for my hybrid choice, but I have not done desert treasure. I like teleblocking durring raids. That means I do not need ancient staffs or as many death runes, but need maybe like 300-500 chaos, law, and death runes stocked up for teleblocking.

Hmm, good questions Karl.
Toktz-kel-xil are perfectly fine.
As for maging... that's a tough call. In f2p you would be ok of course.
If you could have the rune requirement anyway - that way I don't have to work out a loop hole for you.

Oh and a few notes for everyone:

1. If you already have the WG shirt and you recruited the most, you'll get a different prize of equivalent value.

2. Only Groedius has come forward to shoot footage. Anyone else?

Sanfew serums are also a wise move.
I myself will be using them.

d scimmies are so last year

PS: I am very willing to help everyone out with getting their gear. Just ask me if you want help with something.

Just had the chance to read this. I´m pretty sure I´ve got all that stuff and will work on recruiting and hosting once I get home.

Just checking in when I´ve got the time.

@Karl

PKing takes place on the BH worlds now. Teleporting isn´t allowed (out of the wilderness at least) so there is no reason to TB.

Yeah read about that after I posted. Hadn´t been keeping up with RS news. Just got internet today.

And about 1k in each of the foodies. I prefer tunapuds to be honest.


PS: For each noted item, one item stayed behind in the bank as a placeholder. So, if you see 9 dds's, it means I've got a total of 10.

All of this sounds just fantastic.
Hope you guys grow and become big in p2p again now.
I will be coming back from emeritus as soon as possible, which will be in about 2 weeks or so. Then I will be getting all the gear and items said in this topic.

I got everything except the rune gloves and summer pies. I don't think I would ever use those, I usually stay back and mage/range. Don't need run.

My opinions on this whole requirement thing are mixed, but as I am not really a member and am not P2P, my input is not really needed.


However, I do have one thing to say:
Several people have brought up the issue of money being tied up into raid sets, when it could be better used for merchanting capital or other things. So, how about this for a compromise:
How about having an option of the above sets, or, say, half of that + 3 mill cash. As half of that gear equals around 2 mill, it wouldn't help you be a cheapscate; However, it would be useful for those poorer members or those who like to merchant(Just so long as the cash is in cash form by the raid time). It would mean that, if needed, a person could just pop over to the GE and buy a bunch of sets of whatever is -currently- needed, even if they would have otherwise run out of those. And, as you said, lordy, that gear is for 5 bad raids.

It wouldn't be a "compromise", at least not that I can see; everyone would have at least 5 mill that would be usable towards gear, but some would have half as cash, and some wouldn't.

---------------
Eugene, two things: One, you can already do what you want with the attendance editor. Simply select the ranks you want, all the settings you want, click "sort", then bookmark the page(or save the URL). Any time you load that URL, those settings will load up as the default.

Two, I don't know. Last I looked at the ACP software, I couldn't really understand what exactly was happening. I also -just- got back from a second weekly trip in two weeks(I had one day back after my trip to Kansas), and on Tuesday, I start summer school. All this means that I don't exactly have free time yet. When I do, I will see.


-RobbieThe1st

question: the numbers in parentheses is the one recommended but optional and...

the numbers without is the MUST need right?

i have about 2.5m, 500K to spare for my pure ess and erm..i was thinking of buying it now and just restocking n stuf, i can also start rcing deaths soon

gottem

will pm pic by end of tmrw 100%

edit: 99.9%

started ep today. ended in 8 hours and got 7.7m

thats all folks!

bak2rc

<-- council!!!!#@% there's the first part of the bank and...

<-- there's the second part

Since I can't seem to get a rise out of the council to look.. Here ya go

LOOK AT IT!!!!!!!