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WG vs TNG

By Quikdrawjoe on 24/06/2009
The Wilderness Guardians vs The New Generation

Wildguard ML:http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=wildguard
The New Generation ML: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=tngclan

Yesterday, I approached TNG for a 15 v 15 P2P PvP fight. After debating viciously on the rules, we finally agreed on a set of rules.
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WG Starting: 15 people (Minus the scout on top)
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TNG Starting: 15 People

After hopping several worlds due to the presence of other clans, we finally found a clean world and set up.
TNG set up their defences and we rushed in.

With effective positioning, TNG fighters were lured into small gaps and quickly attacked. Within moments, WG mages were able to surround and barrage into TNG's cluster, dealing heavy damage.

After the dust cleared, WG were left with a healthy 13/15 people remaining.

Ending opts
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Pictures of the fight
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Good Fight TNG, was a clean fight for the most part. Hope to do it again sometime.
Thanks to RDK for making a special apperance after the fight. Heard you guys had trouble with our AC
Special thanks to Ancient Fury, who ACed and kept the fight clean and kept us safe.

Extra blue dots were Ancient Fury, who stayed in our CC for fast communication.

~Back to Own

Personally 0 kills 0 deaths.


By Onathe on 24/06/2009
Was a good fight indeed, we done well wub.gif

By Back to Own on 24/06/2009
Start was great, bit slow on the cleaning up towards the end.

I sent Joe as bait and I get piled and die blankstare.gif

0 kills 1 death, got piled on sight

By Quikdrawjoe on 24/06/2009
QUOTE (Back to Own @ June 24, 2009 12:44 am)
Start was great, bit slow on the cleaning up towards the end.

I sent Joe as bait and I get piled and die blankstare.gif

0 kills 1 death, got piled on sight

They assumed you would send a tank is why. hash.png

By Back to Own on 24/06/2009
QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ June 23, 2009 08:22 pm)
QUOTE (Back to Own @ June 24, 2009 12:44 am)
Start was great, bit slow on the cleaning up towards the end.

I sent Joe as bait and I get piled and die  blankstare.gif

0 kills 1 death, got piled on sight

They assumed you would send a tank is why. hash.png

You got lucky they piled that randomer logging in instead of you angryhahs.gif.png

By Stokenut on 24/06/2009
Why did you deathmarch a 15v15?
Why not just say "Look everybody, x, y and z are maging lolz"

By Back to Own on 24/06/2009
QUOTE (Stokenut @ June 23, 2009 08:43 pm)
Why did you deathmarch a 15v15?
Why not just say "Look everybody, x, y and z are maging lolz"

If you had a different idea, go ahead and share it.

To attack us, they had to be in the gaps between the caves, which was exactly our strategy. Theres a reason why we didnt just flat-out deathmarch in. We let them come to us.

Even if they did try to target mages, they only set themselves in a barrage pile.

By Mickey on 24/06/2009
Good job WG. Great to see you guys stepping up your game.

By sgtswordfish on 24/06/2009
congratz on the fight =D

By Kecooler on 24/06/2009
QUOTE (Back to Own @ June 23, 2009 09:08 pm)
QUOTE (Stokenut @ June 23, 2009 08:43 pm)
Why did you deathmarch a 15v15?
Why not just say "Look everybody, x, y and z are maging lolz"

If you had a different idea, go ahead and share it.

Aye.

Send Darf in solo from the south cause he's like UBER TANK BIACH and while they all pile his ass you guys sneak up from behind via going around clan wars and BOOM BARRAGE D SCIM SPEC GODSWORD CRYSTAL BOW their asses.

By Stokenut on 24/06/2009
QUOTE (Back to Own @ June 23, 2009 09:08 pm)
QUOTE (Stokenut @ June 23, 2009 08:43 pm)
Why did you deathmarch a 15v15?
Why not just say "Look everybody, x, y and z are maging lolz"

If you had a different idea, go ahead and share it.

To attack us, they had to be in the gaps between the caves, which was exactly our strategy. Theres a reason why we didnt just flat-out deathmarch in. We let them come to us.

Even if they did try to target mages, they only set themselves in a barrage pile.

Assuming that they are spread, as any mildly experienced clan should be, their setup would be the standard mages at back, rangers in middle and melee at the front. Which going by this picture seems accurate http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1929/090623171623.png

WG should have rushed in off of a tank/leader and rushed through them right to the back. Just like you would in a p2p multi territory battle. To me the start of this fight looks to have been a ----> <clash> <--- start which isn't what you want and as you can see from the pictures, that's what it became. A classic territory battle in which you guys got lucky you weren't fighting someone more experienced.

Rushing to the back of them and being spread across their base will cause them to become confused and need to regroup. Their mages would be exposed and vulnerable.

Equally, their best strategy would have been to counter-rush back into WG and piling/specing out the ones at the back of the WG rush, the mages.

By Planolocal on 25/06/2009
damn god job you guys. keep up the gewd work :>

By Back to Own on 25/06/2009
QUOTE (Stokenut @ June 24, 2009 11:57 am)
QUOTE (Back to Own @ June 23, 2009 09:08 pm)
QUOTE (Stokenut @ June 23, 2009 08:43 pm)
Why did you deathmarch a 15v15?
Why not just say "Look everybody, x, y and z are maging lolz"

If you had a different idea, go ahead and share it.

To attack us, they had to be in the gaps between the caves, which was exactly our strategy. Theres a reason why we didnt just flat-out deathmarch in. We let them come to us.

Even if they did try to target mages, they only set themselves in a barrage pile.

Assuming that they are spread, as any mildly experienced clan should be, their setup would be the standard mages at back, rangers in middle and melee at the front. Which going by this picture seems accurate http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1929/090623171623.png

WG should have rushed in off of a tank/leader and rushed through them right to the back. Just like you would in a p2p multi territory battle. To me the start of this fight looks to have been a ----> <clash> <--- start which isn't what you want and as you can see from the pictures, that's what it became. A classic territory battle in which you guys got lucky you weren't fighting someone more experienced.

Rushing to the back of them and being spread across their base will cause them to become confused and need to regroup. Their mages would be exposed and vulnerable.

Equally, their best strategy would have been to counter-rush back into WG and piling/specing out the ones at the back of the WG rush, the mages.

Cool biggrin.gif

We just decided to make good use of the caves .
However, I'm confident that the strategy we used in this particular fight saved more lives.

By Gusmighster on 25/06/2009
After all of the posts I have seen from Stoke lately, all I can say is; gtfo our ass

By Kecooler on 26/06/2009
QUOTE (Gusmighster @ June 25, 2009 09:49 am)
After all of the posts I have seen from Stoke lately, all I can say is; gtfo our ass

Gus!!! biggrin.gif hey how ya doin? wub.gif

In any case WG won so we should be happy about it instead of criticising victory tactics and techniques smile.gif

By Stokenut on 26/06/2009
QUOTE (WG_Keanu @ June 26, 2009 04:00 am)
QUOTE (Gusmighster @ June 25, 2009 09:49 am)
After all of the posts I have seen from Stoke lately, all I can say is; gtfo our ass

Gus!!! biggrin.gif hey how ya doin? wub.gif

In any case WG won so we should be happy about it instead of criticising victory tactics and techniques smile.gif

Nobody can get better without being told what they're doing wrong.
It's tough love.

By VEPHYSAURAS on 26/06/2009
QUOTE (Boxxy @ June 26, 2009 01:43 pm)
QUOTE (WG_Keanu @ June 26, 2009 04:00 am)
QUOTE (Gusmighster @ June 25, 2009 09:49 am)
After all of the posts I have seen from Stoke lately, all I can say is; gtfo our ass

Gus!!! biggrin.gif hey how ya doin? wub.gif

In any case WG won so we should be happy about it instead of criticising victory tactics and techniques smile.gif

Nobody can get better without being told what they're doing wrong.
It's tough love.

Your judging tactics from a screen shot.

By Lee on 28/06/2009
I dont see why you are all giving steve abuse for. His tactics are sound. It what we used todo. Was pretty much the tictac for the DOA p2p war. One of the most epic p2p wars...ever. So yea.

By Stokenut on 28/06/2009
QUOTE (Leecable @ June 28, 2009 05:42 am)
I dont see why you are all giving steve abuse for. His tactics are sound. It what we used todo. Was pretty much the tictac for the DOA p2p war. One of the most epic p2p wars...ever. So yea.

It's okay. I obviously don't know what I'm talking about. hashdown.gif.png

By Lee on 29/06/2009
Lul.



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