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July Promotions

By George on 01/08/2009
I know that we only had promotions like two weeks ago.
The truth is that the staff were a week and a half behind with the June Promotions and so we were kind of playing catch up sleep.gif Sue us.
No dont plz unsure.gif

Anyway.
After much discussion and consideration.
We have decided to promote no one this month.

Although all of you have been working extremely hard, there were no obvious candidates for the rank of Higher Guardian and Elite Guardian.

Do NOT be downhearted, if you are reading this and continue to work hard and help WG, then your efforts WILL be noticed sooner or later.

What an anti-climax... sorry neko2.gif

~George king.gif

By Zemus3654 on 01/08/2009
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By Nick on 01/08/2009
y so mean?

By David on 01/08/2009
Don't jump on him guys. This is not a cop-out.

We did discuss it, and this is our conclusion.

It was MY idea to do it this way. We want you guys to know that we're not just sitting around. That we are looking but if we don't find anything, we want you guys to know that we tried.

Sorry to those that were hoping for a promotion, August is another month.

By Quikdrawjoe on 01/08/2009
free post count

By God Reports on 01/08/2009
guess nobody deserves them alright

By Big Al 002 on 01/08/2009
lol so this means we have to wait until september 1st

EDIT: or end of august


By God Reports on 01/08/2009
Maybe you don't think there are people who don't deserve promotions BUT I do.

So here is a list.



Pkers210 - Drew is very active, friendly, and has a positive influence on the WG community.

Txtawkin - Kathy is one of the most friendliest people in WG. She is ALWAYS positive and helps out newer people where as others shut them out.

Ludo Slayer - He has made multiple events, improved our publicity. He has recieved MotM but that should have no effect on promotions.

Dieyou2000 - He is a trial raid leader but that shouldn't have an effect either. Meets the requirements of the higher guardian forum post.

Me - I'm not going to blow my own horn but I know fine and well i've met over and above those requirements.


And do note that all these people listed above do meet these requirements.
> http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...hp?showtopic=14

The reason of this reply? I disagree with the council, there ARE people who deserve promotions.

Is there something more people must do? If there is then please do tell. People with 10x the amount of dedication of people that were promoted have not been and why is this. Reasons as to why these people don't deserve them, pm me because i'd love to know. Give me a warn level, feel free, I speak the truth.

By Colinwarrior on 01/08/2009
Epic.

By DZ on 01/08/2009
Actually I was promoted to council, this is just a cover up.

By Big Al 002 on 01/08/2009
ok yeah.

what the fuck.

By Nick on 01/08/2009
QUOTE (surferguy80 @ August 01, 2009 12:16 am)
Is there something more people must do? If there is then please do tell.

If you only had a clue of what I had to do to Anat and Randy for my current position.... Glenn was only the cover up.

By David on 01/08/2009
Being kind, friendly and helpful is what is expected of you as a guardian. You can't be promoted because you do what you're supposed to do. You've got to go above and beyond.

Ludo wasn't promoted because he was given MoTM - we had him slated for promotion but we felt MoTM was more of an honor than being given access to another forum.

Drew, hasn't gone above and beyond. I like him, he's active and friendly and all that good stuff, but where is that extra bit of effort? Not saying he's not a quality member, but he just hasn't shown that extra bit of effort to push him into the next tier.

The reason I didn't nominate Die is simply because he is a trial Raid Leader. When he proves his total worth, he'll get his promotion to RL - only if he's able to. That promotion will be much more than "Can he lead?" We will be taking into account his attributes as a member, personal skills and all that stuff. Promoting him now wouldn't make much sense. Remember the last time we did trials, those who were passed over were promoted to the next rank, who's to say we won't do the same?

Like I said, being what we expect of you isn't enough. The post that outlines what must be done to attain HG is just an outline. It's not "If you do this, you get promoted." It saying that you MUST be those to be CONSIDERED for promotion, but to be competitive for promotion you have to be more than what is asked of you.

So you ask if there is more. The answer is yes. What that "more" is is up to you. Host events, make suggestions. Involve yourself with clan decisions, be outspoken but polite. We notice things that you think we overlook, but I can assure you it's more than "Who has the highest event and post count? They must be active, let's promote them."

@ Al

Yeah, you'll have to wait until the end of August for the August promotions.

By ThisIsUnique on 01/08/2009
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By George on 01/08/2009
You're allowed to disagree with the staff, that is your right and I respect that, but I stand by this post.
Whilst those are all v. good candidates Dylan we just don't think they are quite there yet, but I am sure in the future if they continue to be a positive influence on WG then they will be rewarded.

By NightRawrs on 01/08/2009
Oh em gee.. No promotions.. Ahwell, staff know what they are doing.
Probably have a flood of them next month? tongue.gif

By Onathe on 01/08/2009
Oh um gee, good luck for next month ohmy.gif

By God Reports on 01/08/2009
I really don't see how somone with 2 months of time gets promoted to people who have been in a year or more. Is the council active enough? Are you actually looking into everyday things like the irc? If you ask me, those people have gone up and beyond that requirement. I guess I will just trust the council. But the reason of this is i'm ranting for people who have gone literally forever without a promotion. Same goes for highers to elites.. Angus is a good example, his was WAY overdue.

By Nick on 01/08/2009
QUOTE (surferguy80 @ August 01, 2009 08:51 am)
I really don't see how somone with 2 months of time gets promoted to people who have been in a year or more. Is the council active enough? Are you actually looking into everyday things like the irc? If you ask me, those people have gone up and beyond that requirement. I guess I will just trust the council. But the reason of this is i'm ranting for people who have gone literally forever without a promotion. Same goes for highers to elites.. Angus is a good example, his was WAY overdue.

It isn't just IRC Surfer. The council was quite active in the months of May and June, namely BTO (now inactive lalalalal) and Darth. Shit happens where you may not agree with it, but you have to deal with it because it is based off of someone else's opinion. They are not going to do a mass promotion of 8 people to Higher Guardian, so they had to pick those that had done that much more.

It took me 6 months for Higher Guardian and 3 more for Elite Guardian. And trust me, I disagreed with quite a few of the decisions by council for both of those ranks in my anticipation for the rank. At my point now, I think that the eagerness to be a higher rank is not worth fighting over, instead of being with WG and just doing my best for them, and not worrying about the rank.

By ThisIsUnique on 01/08/2009
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 01, 2009 09:16 am)
QUOTE (surferguy80 @ August 01, 2009 08:51 am)
I really don't see how somone with 2 months of time gets promoted to people who have been in a year or more.  Is the council active enough?  Are you actually looking into everyday things like the irc?  If you ask me, those people have gone up and beyond that requirement.  I guess I will just trust the council.  But the reason of this is i'm ranting for people who have gone literally forever without a promotion.  Same goes for highers to elites..  Angus is a good example, his was WAY overdue.

It isn't just IRC Surfer. The council was quite active in the months of May and June, namely BTO (now inactive lalalalal) and Darth. Shit happens where you may not agree with it, but you have to deal with it because it is based off of someone else's opinion. They are not going to do a mass promotion of 8 people to Higher Guardian, so they had to pick those that had done that much more.

It took me 6 months for Higher Guardian and 3 more for Elite Guardian. And trust me, I disagreed with quite a few of the decisions by council for both of those ranks in my anticipation for the rank. At my point now, I think that the eagerness to be a higher rank is not worth fighting over, instead of being with WG and just doing my best for them, and not worrying about the rank.

+1
i do think its annoying u cant get a promotion if ur motm sad.gif

By Onathe on 01/08/2009
In the council we trust.

By Lee on 01/08/2009
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 01, 2009 09:16 am)
QUOTE (surferguy80 @ August 01, 2009 08:51 am)
I really don't see how somone with 2 months of time gets promoted to people who have been in a year or more.  Is the council active enough?  Are you actually looking into everyday things like the irc?  If you ask me, those people have gone up and beyond that requirement.  I guess I will just trust the council.  But the reason of this is i'm ranting for people who have gone literally forever without a promotion.  Same goes for highers to elites..  Angus is a good example, his was WAY overdue.

It isn't just IRC Surfer. The council was quite active in the months of May and June, namely BTO (now inactive lalalalal) and Darth. Shit happens where you may not agree with it, but you have to deal with it because it is based off of someone else's opinion. They are not going to do a mass promotion of 8 people to Higher Guardian, so they had to pick those that had done that much more.

It took me 6 months for Higher Guardian and 3 more for Elite Guardian. And trust me, I disagreed with quite a few of the decisions by council for both of those ranks in my anticipation for the rank. At my point now, I think that the eagerness to be a higher rank is not worth fighting over, instead of being with WG and just doing my best for them, and not worrying about the rank.

Took me....8 months to get higher. Well over a year or more to get elite. LOLS.

By Gusmighster on 01/08/2009
I never even got higher or elite. You're not meant to worry about being promoted, it should come naturally.

By txtawkin on 01/08/2009
awww...thank you for the sweet words Dylan. wub.gif


But tbh, I am just happy being a guardian especially since I can't always be as active as I would like. neko2.gif

By God Reports on 01/08/2009
QUOTE (Gusmighster @ August 01, 2009 01:25 pm)
I never even got higher or elite. You're not meant to worry about being promoted, it should come naturally.

Then how are you emeritus?

By Gusmighster on 02/08/2009
Because I got promoted to Application Manager as a Guardian. wink.gif

By The_Z_Blade3 on 02/08/2009
Staff positions allow guardian ranks to get emeritus.. eh oh well.. BUST OUT THE AUGUST PROMOS@!%# neko2.gif

By George on 03/08/2009
Well after becoming a staff member Mark, you automatically go to Elite Guardian if you resign.
I mean I went straight from Guardian--->Skills Leader (events leader back in '07) and skipped HG and Elite...
neko2.gif

By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ August 02, 2009 05:52 pm)
Well after becoming a staff member Mark, you automatically go to Elite Guardian if you resign.
I mean I went straight from Guardian--->Skills Leader (events leader back in '07) and skipped HG and Elite...
neko2.gif

rofl thats cool

By ThisIsUnique on 03/08/2009
I will be elite, some day...

By David on 03/08/2009
Yah, I never got Elite either.



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